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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: As Soon as possible in the ballpark of $2700

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, mmorpgs, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I have a nice 26" samsung monitor, non surround sound speakers, g15 keyboard and and plenty of mice

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: honestly anything in the usa would be great

PARTS PREFERENCES: I prefer full tower cases, I've always used nvidia video cards but open for suggestions really

OVERCLOCKING: Im new to overclocking
Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: open

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 Im planning on buying dual monitors to go with it

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I kind of would like to have some bling and bells and whistles since I'm spending almost 3k


Message edited by Anonymous on 09-25-2009 at 03:44:48 AM
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Originally I was going to build an alienware but I keep reading everyone here saying that I should save my money and custom build my own, I was a computer tech 10 years ago but a lot has changed since then lol

Reply to Anonymous

You can make a good gaming system for half your budget. You will have to decide if you want to go crazy overkill now or buy a quality expandable system and hold some of that money for upgrades when they become necessary.

Right now the best single core GPU is the ATI HD 5870. There are some availability issues as it just started shipping this week.

You should look at good full tower cases like the Antec 1200 and Coolermaster HAF 932.

For the CPU an intel i7 920 you can overclock along with a good x58 motherboard or a intel i7 860 with a good p55 motherboard.

Newegg.com is a great place to research parts. They have a good browsing/search feature along with good stats and pictures and links to the manufacturer websites. It might be good to browse cases and look at the cpu reviews on this site. Once you decide the case, motherboard and CPU the rest will fall into place quickly.


Message edited by dndhatcher on 09-25-2009 at 03:53:43 AM
Reply to dndhatcher

I was looking at the i7 950 originally

Reply to Anonymous

CPU: Intel i7 920 -- $270
GPU: XFX HD5870 1GB -- $380
Main-Board: Asus P6T Deluxe V2 -- $290
Ram: Corsair XMS3 6GB PC3 12800 C7 -- $155
PSU: Corsair HX850 -- $180
HDD: 2x SAMSUNG SpinPoint F3 1TB -- $80 x2 = $160
SSD: Corsair X128D 128GB G2 MLC SSD -- $385
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 -- $140
Cooler: Corsair Hydro H50 -- $80
DVD Drive: Regular Lite-On DVD +/-RW -- $34

Total (approx.) $2074 w/o Tax, MIRs or shipping fees..

This sytem will do anything you want and include the most powerful single GPU, i7 9xx CPU, a very good mobo with good OC'ing, 2TB storage, 128 GB SSD and 6GB 1600MHz C7 Ram. I dare to say no game will stand against it :D (or any other thing :lol: )

Medo

------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
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Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

ASRock X58 Supercomputer LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

how about that?

Reply to Anonymous

Sorry "DNDHATCHER"! It took me long to write the previous post..
^ Good but i lean towards Asus mobos
And no 950s oK!
Some wise man here said once that i7 950 just makes our wallets lighter :lol:


Message edited by psycho sykes on 09-25-2009 at 04:09:22 AM
------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
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would dual gpu even be considered?

Reply to Anonymous

With HD5870.. NO! at least not now..
Did you take a look at http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] k#t1994406 ??

------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
Reply to psycho sykes

Not sure if you want a SSD or another one of those vid cards for Crossfire. But here's the basic out line of the build. I prefer Nvidea cards myself, but for now this new ATI DX11 supported 5870 is the king of the hill. Nvidea doesn't come out with their DX11 supported cards until this mid December. But this case runs quite, and every component in this build has great reviews. Check out the links at the bottom.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160 $139.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Get free shipping with promo code SPETFS, ends 9/30

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139009 $139.99 ($119.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) Free Shipping*
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157163 $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.250777 Combo Discount: -$20.00 Combo Price: $399.98 $10.00 Mail-In Rebate Card Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $389.98 Free Shipping*
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8 G - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.248853 Combo Discount: -$4.00 Combo Price: $39.98
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150443 $379.99
XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106332 $33.99 Free Shipping*
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD/CD Writer LightScribe Support - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-152-185 Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $179.98 Free Shipping*
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Retail
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM | Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon

Total: $1,473.89 *not including mail in rebates, shipping, and tax

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2422.html <--- benchmarks and review of that 5870 gpu

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/pr [...] ct_id=2810 <--- more pics, professional reviews, and specs of that case here

http://www.google.com/search?sourc [...] aqi=g-p3g7 <--- Scythe MUGEN 2 cpu cooler reviews

ASRock X58 Extreme Reviews

http://www.motherboards.org/review [...] 923_1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 368-3.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/m [...] treme.html

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3593


Message edited by Why_Me on 09-25-2009 at 04:19:57 AM
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I second Medo's build but I would switch out your HSF to this one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608007

The Corsair is a nice basic all-in-one water cooler but it doesn't compete with the highend air coolers at the same price range. Also with your budget, I would get two 5870's to start and you won't need an upgrade for a while!! Stick with the Core i7 920 over the 950. It isn't worth the price difference.

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Here's a review
It's really up to him but the H50 is very silent and with a better fan will outdo most high-end coolers.. At least the Thermal Take Ultra Extreme
And here's a good thermal compound

------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
Reply to psycho sykes

so much to look at and decide, thank you all so much for your input, I'll post decisions as they are made lol

Reply to Anonymous

@Psycho - first time builder. Do you really think liquid coolers are a good idea? :non: I guess thats why you use that name. :lol:


Regarding dual GPUs. What I was saying in my first post is you might want to spend half your budget on a quality upgradeable system with a build similar to what why_me posted then buy upgrades once you know what you want . That base system will let you play around and learn then you can trick it out with SSDs, liquid coolers, dual GPUs once you have used it a while and know what tweaks will really benefit you.

The only thing I might do differently is buy a more high end motherboard like an EVGA E758-TR-3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188046
or an ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131365
so you even have the option of 3 GPUs if you want it someday.


And I didnt see anyone explain about the CPU. The 920 can be overclocked to basically the same speed as a 950 can be overclocked so it really only makes sense for people who dont want to spend $30-$50 on a cpu cooler and maybe an hour learning to overclock.


Message edited by dndhatcher on 09-25-2009 at 06:38:12 AM
Reply to dndhatcher

The ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 is the one i suggested. It doesn't have 3-way SLI (and i don't think anyone might need it) and the eVGA is no better than it..
The Corsair Hydro H50 is a very good cooler and is factory sealed so he wouldn't have to worry about being a first timer and it's far quieter than high-end air coolers beside it defeats the FORT and TRUE with an aftermarket fan.
And what do you mean "that's why you use the name psycho" ?? It's better not be something bad :??:

 

Edit --->>
And we just forgot to mention the i7 920 vs 950 because we already mentioned it a lot (at least other people than me!) so thanks for pointing that out :D ||

 

Medo


Message edited by psycho sykes on 09-25-2009 at 06:46:22 AM
------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
Reply to psycho sykes

OK, let's think about this... the OP wants to play a few games, watch some movies, and surf the net. And let's not forget the OP is new to o/c. So with that $170 Asrock I posted the OP can be at 3.6GHz with a few strokes of the keys. Does the OP really need that $300 board? We have to think...how is that $300 board going to benefit the OP for what he intends to do with this build. Same with the h/s/water cooling.

------------------------------ "God invented Google so you would stop asking stupid questions."
Reply to Why_Me

Very well i found that word "psycho" and i hope you aren't trying to call me mad :non:

------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
Reply to psycho sykes

psycho sykes wrote :

Very well i found that word "psycho" and i hope you aren't trying to call me mad :non:



That word has a few meanings medo. Like someone that goes for a clock of 5.0GHz...that Psycho. And yes I hope you know all the meanings seeing how it's your forums moniker on here. :lol:

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Reply to Why_Me

Actually i took it from Crysis Warhead :lol: You know.. Sgt. Psycho Sykes.. The one you're playing with.. I just love this game!
And my avatar proves that BTW!


Message edited by psycho sykes on 09-25-2009 at 06:58:17 AM
------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
Reply to psycho sykes

psycho sykes wrote :

Very well i found that word "psycho" and i hope you aren't trying to call me mad :non:

To me thats what suggesting liquid cooling to a first time builder seems. :??:

Better to steer him to a safe, simple build he can learn from and trick out later once his confidence is established.


Reply to dndhatcher

dndhatcher wrote :

To me thats what suggesting liquid cooling to a first time builder seems. :??:

Better to steer him to a safe, simple build he can learn from and trick out later once his confidence is established.



+1




















------------------------------ "God invented Google so you would stop asking stupid questions."
Reply to Why_Me

Why_Me wrote :

OK, let's think about this... the OP wants to play a few games, watch some movies, and surf the net. And let's not forget the OP is new to o/c. So with that $170 Asrock I posted the OP can be at 3.6GHz with a few strokes of the keys. Does the OP really need that $300 board? We have to think...how is that $300 board going to benefit the OP for what he intends to do with this build.

I said
"The only thing I might do differently is buy a more high end motherboard [examples...] so you even have the option of 3 GPUs if you want it someday."

Going up to the more expensive board is only to give him the option of going 3 GPUs someday if multi-monitor gaming becomes a passion. Its a tradeoff spending an extra $100 now so you dont spend another $270 later, have to reinstall everything and throw away a $170 motherboard. I think with his high end budget its an option worth considering.

Reply to dndhatcher

4 things:
1st you didn't clarify what you said now in the first post, So i just replied to it.
2nd 3-way SLI and CrossFireX don't actually add anything even with future games (in that case it's won't add anything) so it's only for the word (highest FPS) nothing else.
Beside 2-way SLI and CrossFire will scale better with current gen CPUs given that they'll need more than the x8 bandwidth provided for 2 of when you do it with i7s (3-way SLI/CF)
3rd I said it before that this cooler is factory sealed and isn't that bad even for a first timer. Final word of it and other opinions are just opinions AND are welcomed!
4th @ Why_Me what do you mean "+1 (7+ enters)" ??

 

Ah, And "mad" "crazy" "psycho" could be replaced by inexperienced in "x" section of computers because he's recommending "y" item for "z" build to a person with "n" experience. I'd have received it better. Just an opinion and not trying to argue here or even saying I'm "mad" because what was said :lol:

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Message edited by psycho sykes on 09-25-2009 at 07:44:53 AM
------------------------------ -Medo Egyptian
"Simplicity is a mix of complexity."
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psycho sykes wrote :

2nd 3-way SLI and CrossFireX don't actually add anything even with future games


If you are gaming on 6+ LCDs the extra GPU power may become important. Its an unknown right now that should not be dismissed out of hand when somone starts with that large a budget.

psycho sykes wrote :

"mad" "crazy" "psycho" could be replaced by inexperienced

I would not call you inexperienced. That really could be an insult (like calling you a noob). Saying one of your ideas is crazy under those circumstances and having a bit of a joke is better. :D


Message edited by dndhatcher on 09-25-2009 at 07:57:25 AM
Reply to dndhatcher

1st I edited my post.
Second if he need 3-way SLI that way he may need to get the Classified or even wait for Intel to release a chip with more than x36 lanes native as for some reason i don't like the NF200 chip and probably never will.
I don't think anyone is going to game with 6 monitors that often and starting with big budget doesn't necessary mean he need the highest end.
I agree with 6+ LCDs needing extra GPU power but we'll have to wait and see what DX11 actually give to the game performance world..

 

Well then.. Problems solved :D (still being inexperienced means inexperienced! And i can see it coming in forms without being an insult :) (let alone n00b. I hate this word) and i guess i just mixed it up (MY idea/ME!)) Anyway, have a nice.. some.. time.. in.. the.. day!!


Message edited by psycho sykes on 09-25-2009 at 10:02:38 AM
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