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September 25, 2009 2:54:59 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:Next week

BUDGET RANGE: 1100-1400 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, nothing else too intense

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: OS Keyboard Mouse

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: I like Intel, but by all means convince me otherwise.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe, if it is the best bang for the buck in terms of graphics

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would really like to have a mildy outrageous gaming machine. I built a great one 11 years ago, but if finally broke. I want it to have the ability to be upgraded to keep up with the times. I would also really like a 24 inch monitor or some other absurd display, they just seem pretty.


Here is what I put together from reading around and looking at newegg.



Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$84.99


Rosewill Wind Ryder RZLS142A-P BK Dual 120mm Cooling Fans and Mesh Design Front Panel Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$39.99

ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor Built in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$214.99


HIS CrossFire Bridge Interconnect Cable Model HCFBC4065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$10.99



G.SKILL Trident 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99


Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99


SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$31.99

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$279.99

ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$169.99

XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$44.98


2 POWERCOLOR AX4850 1GBD3-PH Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.9

Thinking about cross firing them.

Let me know if you think anything is absurd or if I am missing anything. You folks seem to be incredibly good at breaking down what is needed and what is not and for finding alternatives.

Thank you.

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September 25, 2009 3:22:45 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $119.98
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU - Retail

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $99.99 Free Shipping
PC Power and Cooling SILENCER 750W QUAD S75CF Power Supply Retai

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$30.00 Combo Price: $339.98 Free Shipping*
ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $85.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 Free Shipping*
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=SHS223B_BE $29.99 Free Ground Shipping
Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE 22X SATA DVD+/-RW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/o Software

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $379.99
XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $214.99
ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
With HDCP support

Total: $1,350.90

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422... <---benchmarks and review of that 5870 gpu

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/landing/haf922/ <--- more pics, specs, and professional reviews of that Cooler Master 922 HAF
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September 25, 2009 5:37:13 PM

Why_Me is the best at finding those combos. It's like he's in charge of NewEggs prices or something.

If you can't afford the latest and greatest GPU (HD 5870 at $380) - have you considered CF at 2x4770? They're more efficient than the 4850s and similar in performance. I couldn't find a comparison off hand and it has been a while since I compared the two so I would dig one up before deciding. If you stay with the 4850's, I would look for a more reliable brand. But maybe that's just me.

Here's a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 - $99.99 shipped (for 1):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's an article on the performance of 2x4770: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-4770-crossfi...

The title and conclusion lead one to believe it blows away the competition. But if you look at the benchmarks 2x4770 often trade places with the 4890. Something you could consider for <$200. Here's one w/ a $20 rebate that makes it $175 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 25, 2009 5:56:23 PM

With overclocking and dual GPUs you probably want a 750W PSU. Twin 4850s and a good OC on the i7 would be pushing that 650 awfully hard.

The 5850 is as fast as a GTX 285 or dual 4850s and its only $260. Its a good option if you cant afford the $380 for a 5870. 5850s should start shipping early next week.
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September 25, 2009 6:20:03 PM

I couldn't find the HD5850 anywhere except "zipzoomfly" and it's listed for $300 without combos.
We'll have to wait for NewEgg version :D 

Oh and actually the HD5850 was just a little bit behind HD4870X2 so..
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September 25, 2009 6:22:10 PM

Newegg doesnt seem to add stuff until they can actually ship it. A UK site says they are getting sapphire 5850s in 2-3 days and xfx 5850s in 2-3 weeks.
zipzoomfly has it listed at $260 US.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

And yeah it was getting 80-85% of the speed of a 5870 at 60% of the price. I think I'm going to try to pick one up during thanksgiving or new years sales.
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September 25, 2009 6:38:01 PM

I thought he was from the USA or are you saying you are from the UK? In this case i haven't looked at any UK sites unfortunately :) 
great!All what i was able to find on ZipZoomFly was the XFX HD5850 and was listed at $299.99 so great find!
I'm too waiting to get it for this performance but i can't get anything before Dec.17th, 2009 so it's not even an option :(  But with time my friend picks them up there would be great discounts/deals/offers (Dec. 10th+/-)!
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September 25, 2009 6:41:09 PM

I'm saying I saw a UK site with actual ETAs for in-stock 5850s. Its just a general info comment.
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September 25, 2009 6:44:32 PM

I didn't mean anything! I was just commenting too :D 
Isn't ATI supposed to stock the US first??
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September 25, 2009 6:58:17 PM

psycho sykes said:
I didn't mean anything! I was just commenting too :D 
Isn't ATI supposed to stock the US first??


All you crazy power hungry Americans. You're the reason why the rest of the world get shafted with computer stuff :p .
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September 25, 2009 7:01:30 PM

I'm not from America :p 
But i am going to get it from there so that's why and in my country I'll have to 5 months for them to start shipping here from the first place :( 
Sorry for English
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September 25, 2009 7:03:33 PM

psycho sykes said:
Sorry for English
Yeah, pity those poor English having to wait an entire extra day for their supply of GPUs.
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September 25, 2009 7:06:07 PM

Noo! I meant sorry for my language! And I'm from Egypt BTW :p 
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Yeah, pity those poor English having to wait an entire extra day for their supply of GPUs.

Yea! We are in the war.. World war 3, Terminator wars then Star wars! :lol: 

I'm sorry for inconvenience.
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September 25, 2009 7:08:43 PM

psycho sykes said:
Noo! I meant sorry for my language! And I'm from Egypt BTW :p 


You thought that was bad English!? Wow, there are some quite high standards in Egypt, I'm proud. I know people who have spoken English all their life and still can't use it :p .
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September 25, 2009 7:14:33 PM

psycho sykes said:
Noo! I meant sorry for my language! And I'm from Egypt BTW :p 
I understood you. Your english is better than many native US high skool students.
Yea! We are in the war.. World war 3, Terminator wars then Star wars! said:
Yea! We are in the war.. World war 3, Terminator wars then Star wars!
:non:  Star wars was first. "A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"
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September 25, 2009 7:16:13 PM

^^ Well, First thanks! Second here's another high standard in UK :D  and the US :) 
^ Thanks again!
How about "A long time ahead, Far, far away in the jungle, The world war 3 started because a monkey said a joke" :lol: 
"The jungle of apes" What do you think? The laser bananas, Rocket coconut etc.!
Back on topic it looks like NewEgg can't hold for 5 minutes before the stock is out for all brands (HD5870) and I couldn't find any benchmarks for the HD5850 except those published by ATI.. So I guess I'll wait for TH's review..
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September 25, 2009 7:27:54 PM

Thanks for the pointers everyone. It seems like the general consensus is that I should put a chunk of change into the 5870 and have less ram and an i5 instead of the i7? It seems reasonable to me, but I just wanted to clarify. The 5870 does look real nice.
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September 25, 2009 7:31:59 PM

asjohnson said:
Thanks for the pointers everyone. It seems like the general consensus is that I should put a chunk of change into the 5870 and have less ram and an i5 instead of the i7? It seems reasonable to me, but I just wanted to clarify. The 5870 does look real nice.


You got it! :)  That i5 will o/c nicely, and there are zero bottlenecks in that build I posted. That build will have you destroying games.
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September 25, 2009 7:32:02 PM

I would go with i7/X58 and get a HD5850 when it's available as it BEATS the GTX285 and if it wasn't launched i don't think you were going to consider a gTX285 so grt the better!!
And the X58 platform has better future proofing specially with GPUs due to its full x16 x16 SLI/CF which WILL benefit next gen GPUs even if it doesn't add anything to current gen. as it was said that HD5870 saturates the i5's x8 CF bandwidth..

Medo
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September 25, 2009 9:00:28 PM

psycho sykes said:
I would go with i7/X58 and get a HD5850 when it's available
With a stated purpose of "gaming and nothing else too intense" I would go with a cheaper i5 CPU and more expensive 5870 GPU. The i7x58 is for "intense stuff".
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September 25, 2009 9:26:11 PM

But later you'll lose the ability to take full advantage of high-end GPU CF/SLI setups due to the x8 x8 multi-GPU.
Of course if he prefer to stay away from multi-GPU setups then the i5/P55 performs better than the i7/X58 because of the IPC.
Non-intense gaming = 1 GPU
1 GPU = i5/P55
I think it's up to "the games he plays" :D 
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September 27, 2009 12:15:48 AM

I am interested in adding more graphics cards in the future and trying to keep it updated as I go. Does this mean the i7 is a better idea?
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September 27, 2009 12:17:14 AM

Only if you're interested in CF'ing anything higher than HD5850.
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September 27, 2009 1:01:19 AM

I linked it just to say that 2 HD5870 in crossfire doesn't scale well due to CPU limitations.
So why not 1 HD5870 and forget about it for 2 years?! Or even wait for GTX360 and SLI... (Is there anything about nVidia's lineup specs??)
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September 27, 2009 1:13:39 AM

psycho sykes said:
I linked it just to say that 2 HD5870 in crossfire doesn't scale well due to CPU limitations.
So why not 1 HD5870 and forget about it for 2 years?! Or even wait for GTX360 and SLI... (Is there anything about nVidia's lineup specs??)


I like the idea of one good vid card now, and in a few years get rid of it (ebay/craigslist/whatever...) and then getting the latest vid card that's owning it up.

One good vid card > two ok vid cards
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September 27, 2009 1:17:37 AM

That solves it then! One HD5870 and HD6870 later :D 
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September 27, 2009 2:00:06 AM

Alright, that seems reasonable. If I go with 1 HD 5870 is the i5 going to be enough to handle it and more importantly enough to handle whatever the future stuff is / cross firing in the future?
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September 27, 2009 2:07:36 AM

It won't be able to crossfire anything higher than HD4870X2 (HD5850 has higher bandwidth BTW!) But with GPU setups it'll be better than the i7/X58! :wahw: Surprise! Thanks to the integrated PCIe controller for lower latency.
Till we see something about HD6800 i can say it'll handle any (SINGLE) GPU you throw at it :D 
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September 27, 2009 2:17:00 AM

Sweet. Thanks for the tips everyone. I am ordering it up next week / whenever they let me get 5870s on newegg.
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