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September 27, 2009 11:20:53 PM

Building a new computer and am in a toss up between getting

BFG Geforce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
2x Asus Radeon 4870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


this is my current build so far to give a better idea of what else it will go with.

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU fan/heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
64-bit OS

I'm hoping this will be a pretty darn good build. With everything the price is $1,673 with the 2 radeon cards. Its about $20 or so more for the 1 gtx 285. If any of you have any other advice on hardware changes plz don't hold back. This is my 1st big build so I am a noob.

Other thoughts:
CPU/mobo are combo
Case/PSU are combo
Velociraptro/OS are combo
September 27, 2009 11:33:01 PM

Neither... Pick up a XFX 5870 for a little more then the GTX 285

Recommended Changes:
1) Hard Drive: Pick up two Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB hard drives in RAID0 for a faster setup at a 1/4 the price.

2) Switch your heat sink to the Xigmetak Dark Knight S1283V for better performance for less.

Edit: Have you thought about going with the Core i5 750 build? You can build for the same price and get better performance.
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September 27, 2009 11:39:28 PM

Definitely pick up a 5870 instead and swap the HDDs like tecmo suggested

Get this case PSU combo, the EA750 has enough power for 2 strong GPUs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

This CPU/Mobo combo will give you significantly better performance for only slightly($10) more, the i7 860 is significantly stronger than the PII 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Or you can get an i5 and save $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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September 27, 2009 11:40:19 PM

I have thought about going over to an intel build but have been using AMD for over 6 years and just love them, so its a preference thing for me. And as for the raid 0 setup I know it will be faster but I want the veloci for the performance and than the WD caviar blue for backup. I have alot of important college documents I must keep when I reformat.

BTW thankyou for such a quick reply!
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September 27, 2009 11:41:58 PM

The raptor wont be faster, its overpriced and really not worth it when you can beat it with 2 larger drives for less.
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September 27, 2009 11:42:55 PM

I cant find the xfx 5870 you are talking about, was it a typo and you meant the xfx 4870?

*edit*
found it, was just out of stock at newegg.com
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September 27, 2009 11:48:27 PM

shaggy2k7 said:
I have thought about going over to an intel build but have been using AMD for over 6 years and just love them, so its a preference thing for me. And as for the raid 0 setup I know it will be faster but I want the veloci for the performance and than the WD caviar blue for backup. I have alot of important college documents I must keep when I reformat.

BTW thankyou for such a quick reply!

Understand... I still say go with the Samsung Spinpoint F3's not in RAID0. These are pretty much as fast or faster than the VRaptor for a lot less money. It will give you more storage without any loss of speed.
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September 27, 2009 11:57:15 PM

would 2 samsung spinpoint f3's be better performance than say 2 wd caviar black 1tb's?

also for the xfx 5870, if I get the 2 spinpoint f3's that will give me some breathing room to get the xfx 5870, also in a month or 2 when more money comes around would if be a wise choice to pick another one of these up and crossfire them?

Also I'm getting the vista 64bit OEM. If I do get another one of these cards will it void the oem license?
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September 28, 2009 12:15:32 AM

Yes, the Samsung would give you better performance.

Picking up a second 5870 will give you the ability to max every game, so yes it would be worth it.... Note: One 5870 will pretty much max everything currently out, as well.

No, adding another GPU will not void your lisence for Windows..
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September 28, 2009 12:22:36 AM

well thats really great to hear! I was worried about getting a OS OEM version because I have read alot of mixed reviews, some say you can upgrade parts as long as you dont do the mobo, and some say you cant add anything.

Also, what is the difference between the xfx and saphire and other manufactures version of the 5870? Do you like the xfx because of personal preference or is there some proof to back it over the others?
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September 28, 2009 12:25:52 AM

XFX comes with a better warranty on their stuff than the other manufacturers, all of their cards come with a double lifetime warranty as long as you register it within 30 days of purchase. They tend to be slightly more expensive but if the price is equal, as it is with the 5870s then XFX is definitely the way to go.
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September 28, 2009 12:29:32 AM

XFX and Saphire are pretty much the two best Manufacture of ATI cards. Why I recommend XFX is based on price and personal perference. You will be okay with either or of the two.
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September 28, 2009 12:38:01 AM

well this is the latest version of my build thanks to tecmo34 and hunter315 with thier great advice.

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103692
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131392
Ram
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227478
HDD's
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129043
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371024
CPU fan/heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118019
Vista 64-bit OS OEM with 7 upgrade

based on the changes how would you all rate this build for ~$1,561?

hoping for a really good gaming/work pc that will last without any other upgrades other than another xfx 5870 for a few years.
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September 28, 2009 1:01:12 AM

Only change I still recommend is for you to change out your HSF to this... Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V, which is a better performing HSF.
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September 28, 2009 3:01:14 AM

any other suggestions from any1 else or the same people?

plan on buying the parts tomorrow if the xfx 5870 cards are restocked.
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