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Building a new computer and am in a toss up between getting

BFG Geforce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143190
or
2x Asus Radeon 4870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121291


this is my current build so far to give a better idea of what else it will go with.

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103692
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131392
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227478
HDD's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136322
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136074
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129043
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371024
CPU fan/heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118019
64-bit OS

I'm hoping this will be a pretty darn good build. With everything the price is $1,673 with the 2 radeon cards. Its about $20 or so more for the 1 gtx 285. If any of you have any other advice on hardware changes plz don't hold back. This is my 1st big build so I am a noob.

Other thoughts:
CPU/mobo are combo
Case/PSU are combo
Velociraptro/OS are combo

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Neither... Pick up a XFX 5870 for a little more then the GTX 285

Recommended Changes:
1) Hard Drive: Pick up two Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB hard drives in RAID0 for a faster setup at a 1/4 the price.

2) Switch your heat sink to the Xigmetak Dark Knight S1283V for better performance for less.

Edit: Have you thought about going with the Core i5 750 build? You can build for the same price and get better performance.


Message edited by tecmo34 on 09-28-2009 at 01:37:06 AM
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Definitely pick up a 5870 instead and swap the HDDs like tecmo suggested

 

Get this case PSU combo, the EA750 has enough power for 2 strong GPUs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.245605

 

This CPU/Mobo combo will give you significantly better performance for only slightly($10) more, the i7 860 is significantly stronger than the PII 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.259876

 

Or you can get an i5 and save $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.259877


Message edited by hunter315 on 09-28-2009 at 01:40:46 AM
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I have thought about going over to an intel build but have been using AMD for over 6 years and just love them, so its a preference thing for me. And as for the raid 0 setup I know it will be faster but I want the veloci for the performance and than the WD caviar blue for backup. I have alot of important college documents I must keep when I reformat.

BTW thankyou for such a quick reply!

Reply to shaggy2k7

The raptor wont be faster, its overpriced and really not worth it when you can beat it with 2 larger drives for less.

Reply to hunter315

I cant find the xfx 5870 you are talking about, was it a typo and you meant the xfx 4870?

*edit*
found it, was just out of stock at newegg.com


Message edited by shaggy2k7 on 09-28-2009 at 01:47:44 AM
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shaggy2k7 wrote :

I have thought about going over to an intel build but have been using AMD for over 6 years and just love them, so its a preference thing for me. And as for the raid 0 setup I know it will be faster but I want the veloci for the performance and than the WD caviar blue for backup. I have alot of important college documents I must keep when I reformat.

BTW thankyou for such a quick reply!


Understand... I still say go with the Samsung Spinpoint F3's not in RAID0. These are pretty much as fast or faster than the VRaptor for a lot less money. It will give you more storage without any loss of speed.

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Not a typo, just not currently in stock, it only got released on wednesday
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

and it performs similarly to a $500 GTX295, while using way less power
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2422.html

Reply to hunter315

would 2 samsung spinpoint f3's be better performance than say 2 wd caviar black 1tb's?

also for the xfx 5870, if I get the 2 spinpoint f3's that will give me some breathing room to get the xfx 5870, also in a month or 2 when more money comes around would if be a wise choice to pick another one of these up and crossfire them?

Also I'm getting the vista 64bit OEM. If I do get another one of these cards will it void the oem license?


Message edited by shaggy2k7 on 09-28-2009 at 02:00:58 AM
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Yes, the Samsung would give you better performance.

Picking up a second 5870 will give you the ability to max every game, so yes it would be worth it.... Note: One 5870 will pretty much max everything currently out, as well.

No, adding another GPU will not void your lisence for Windows..

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well thats really great to hear! I was worried about getting a OS OEM version because I have read alot of mixed reviews, some say you can upgrade parts as long as you dont do the mobo, and some say you cant add anything.

Also, what is the difference between the xfx and saphire and other manufactures version of the 5870? Do you like the xfx because of personal preference or is there some proof to back it over the others?

Reply to shaggy2k7

XFX comes with a better warranty on their stuff than the other manufacturers, all of their cards come with a double lifetime warranty as long as you register it within 30 days of purchase. They tend to be slightly more expensive but if the price is equal, as it is with the 5870s then XFX is definitely the way to go.

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XFX and Saphire are pretty much the two best Manufacture of ATI cards. Why I recommend XFX is based on price and personal perference. You will be okay with either or of the two.

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well this is the latest version of my build thanks to tecmo34 and hunter315 with thier great advice.

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150443
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103692
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131392
Ram
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227478
HDD's
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129043
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371024
CPU fan/heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118019
Vista 64-bit OS OEM with 7 upgrade

based on the changes how would you all rate this build for ~$1,561?

hoping for a really good gaming/work pc that will last without any other upgrades other than another xfx 5870 for a few years.


Message edited by shaggy2k7 on 09-28-2009 at 02:39:27 AM
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Only change I still recommend is for you to change out your HSF to this... Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V, which is a better performing HSF.


Message edited by tecmo34 on 09-28-2009 at 03:05:08 AM
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any other suggestions from any1 else or the same people?

plan on buying the parts tomorrow if the xfx 5870 cards are restocked.

Reply to shaggy2k7

for memory cooling will the OCZ XTC memory cooler (not Rev2) work on 4 sticks of ocz ram?

ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227478
OCZ XTC memory cooler
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-TECHNOLO [...] 702&sr=8-1

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