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flybyya23   09-28-2009 at 02:01:31 AM

I had a motherboard and power supply go on a Dell Dimension E520: I've tried replacing the power supply and it powers up further than it did with the stock power supply, but still no video (not even BIOS/setup video with CPU/RAM/etc removed).

Apparently, the motherboard is a custom BTX motherboard, and >$150 to replace! Figure I can get a lot more for my money by going to an ATX case / power supply (e.g., ~$100 for a case/power supply, $60 for a mobo), reuse the RAM (DDR2-533) and CPU (Pentium D), plus everything else.

Here's what I've selected as candidates (NewEgg) ... I'm looking for some feedback on my selections and/or general approach. I don't want to spend a lot of money to get back up and running.

Intel BOXDG41RQ LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813121373
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$59.99


Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817153052
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Thermaltake WingRS 200 VJ70001N2Z Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811133075
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$94

I selected the G41 board instead of a same price G31 board because of the better on-board graphics.

Thanks for any advice,
Dave

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Bronze Home Brew badge Outlander_04   09-28-2009 at 05:06:17 AM

It can be tricky matching new and old components

I just checked out the mb's webpage
http://www.intel.com/products/desk [...] erview.htm
and clicked on the cpu support list

Your pentium D is not on the list .

You may have to look at older motherboards

When you search on newegg for socket 775 mb's that support the pentium d you get this page
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] toreType=1

Some are g41 and nearly identical to the board you have picked so it might just be a BIOS issue

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jitpublisher   09-28-2009 at 06:33:24 AM

And, just to toss this out there, your Dell Windows disk most likely will not work with a non-Dell board. Don't overlook that very real possibility!

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megamanx00   09-28-2009 at 06:57:46 AM

Make sure to check the Biostar website to ensure that the board supports your Pentium D. Some of the G41 boards won't support older Netburst chips like the Pentium Ds, especially if they use a 533 FSB. Currently I use this board in my backup computer.

ASRock G41M-S $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157165

It's cheap, supports just about every LGA775 CPU, and overclocks well. It accepts an old P4 2.8Ghz chip I had laying around, but currently I have a Pentium E2200 in there. Keeping it at stock speeds just for heat and stability reasons though :).

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zipzoomflyhigh   09-28-2009 at 04:39:25 PM

I agree, your oem windows disk probably wont be valid with a different mobo. It's tied to the dell mobo.

I'm afraid it may be time to upgrade that beast.

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flybyya23   10-08-2009 at 05:13:41 AM

jitpublisher wrote :

And, just to toss this out there, your Dell Windows disk most likely will not work with a non-Dell board. Don't overlook that very real possibility!



Thanks for the tip. I understand why Dell and Microsoft would do this and I don't blame them, but there must be a (legal) way around this? I haven't read through Microsoft license agreements lately (ever?!), but I'de be disappointed to hear that you're tied to one piece of hardware and can't upgrade. I'm hoping they just make it difficult rather than impossible?

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flybyya23   10-08-2009 at 05:15:00 AM

megamanx00 wrote :

Make sure to check the Biostar website to ensure that the board supports your Pentium D. Some of the G41 boards won't support older Netburst chips like the Pentium Ds, especially if they use a 533 FSB. Currently I use this board in my backup computer.

ASRock G41M-S $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157165

It's cheap, supports just about every LGA775 CPU, and overclocks well. It accepts an old P4 2.8Ghz chip I had laying around, but currently I have a Pentium E2200 in there. Keeping it at stock speeds just for heat and stability reasons though :).



Sweet! Thanks ... I'm probably going to go with this one (after I check out the Windows issue!).

Appreciate all help from everyone.

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False_Dmitry_II   10-08-2009 at 08:30:30 AM

Just to ask an annoying possibility question. What if it's the CPU that's dead?

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flybyya23   10-13-2009 at 12:59:09 AM

False_Dmitry_II wrote :

Just to ask an annoying possibility question. What if it's the CPU that's dead?



I was under the impression that if the system was powered on without the CPU you would get at least a beep or screen flicker (on board graphics). Is this not true? Obviously I'de like to narrow it down to either the CPU or motherboard, otherwise I would probably go a different direction ...

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flybyya23   11-09-2009 at 12:09:22 AM

I purchased the ASRock G41M-S and a new power supply and put every together. I now have a 3 beep code on power on (more than I had before!). It's an AMI BIOS so that means first 64K of RAM.

I tried using different RAM modules (DDR2-533, PC-4200) and got the same result.

Any ideas?

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