I5 upgrade and DX11 on the Horizon

Hello all! I have a question.

I've recently been searching all of the internet to find a new system to build. I've been using Newegg mostly, and with the release of the I5 I've become quite excited.

This is my current computer:... roughly.

Dell XPS 410 case and PSU (375 watts?).

Geforce 8800GTS (92) 512.

Intel E6300 at 1.86

250 gig hard drive at 7200 RPMs.

4 gigs of 667mhz ddr2 (only running 3 due to 32 bit XP)

and one of those crummy Dell Motherboards. So basicly my question stands:

Should I go ahead and build an entirely new computer based of the I5?

I can afford about 1100 dollars worth of equipment, but quite honestly feel queasy about spending that much.
So would it be entirely out of reach if I were to buy an I5 and a P55 (get out of Dell. ) and some DDR3 RAM, and just keep my current graphics card? I could even wait for the new DX11 cards. Or the price drop on the DX10s.
Right? Would I better to future proof myself, and maximize the frame rate in most upcoming games? What on my current system is holding me back? Should I upgrade to Vista and get the free windows 7 upgrade now?

Thanks in advance! Your answers are much needed.

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you can do a nice i5 with a new GPU and monitor for about 1K, if you like to keep your GPU thats fine but we need to know some more info and the rez of your monitor.

take a few mins to read this http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ild-advice and post back i am sure the guys around here can help you out.

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Ohh, sorry about. Here some more info:

Current monitor resolution is 1920 x 1080. Which is abit high considering my frame rate fetish and current set up. I'm looking forward to PC games such as, but not limited too: Borderlands, Modern Warfare 2, Starcraft 2, bioshock 2, Supreme Commander 2... ect. Pretty graphic intensive games as such. Would I greatly enhance my frames on such future games if I were to only buy the I5 and not a new graphics card?

I love me some eye candy, but favor frames far more. I also greatly dislike playing below the native res. So basically. I don't want to spend 1k at the moment due to buying a car soon. But would also like a frame improvement.

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Some game are GPU dependent most are GPU dependent tho. Seening you dont need a monitor we can come up with a i5 and gpu for under 1K

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if you live by a micro center you can save more off the CPU. Would you be opened to a AMD build ? we could save more there and still get good eye-candy and FPS.

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Message edited by Why_Me on 09-28-2009 at 05:29:56 AM

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Ok. AMD might actually work. I was wondering though; what is the difference between micro and full ATX? AMD vs intel?

Also, I have a 535 watt PSU, could I get away with using that instead of buying a new one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

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Reply to niklas_13

CarefulMana wrote :

Ok. AMD might actually work. I was wondering though; what is the difference between micro and full ATX? AMD vs intel?

Also, I have a 535 watt PSU, could I get away with using that instead of buying a new one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

I would not use that PSU its not the best and could lead to problems.

We might be able to use your HDD and DVD if you could post them

micro boards are smaller to fit into smaller cases, and have fewer PCI PCI-E slots (that i5 board i posted has 1 PCI-E slot for a single card setup so no sli or xfire same with the AMD board.

both AMD and intel are good for what you need.

------------------------------ P55-UD4P / i5 750 @ 3.6 180X20 / GSkill 1600 @ 1420 7-7-7-22 / WD Black 640 / HD 5850 / Corsair 750 / Win 7
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This is aloso a very nice I5 build with vista and the free win7 upgrade

nice build Why-Me +1

------------------------------ P55-UD4P / i5 750 @ 3.6 180X20 / GSkill 1600 @ 1420 7-7-7-22 / WD Black 640 / HD 5850 / Corsair 750 / Win 7
Reply to niklas_13

Ok, I'll just trash it. It didn't look to reliable anyhow.

I honestly have no idea what my DVD drive is exactly, except that it works fine.

And for my HDD: I suppose I could still use it. I'm going to reformat and install Vista on it when the time comes. Its a 250 gig. Is that enough?

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np post back when you figur out what you like to go with

------------------------------ P55-UD4P / i5 750 @ 3.6 180X20 / GSkill 1600 @ 1420 7-7-7-22 / WD Black 640 / HD 5850 / Corsair 750 / Win 7
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Oh wow. I'm getting excited. They keep getting cheaper and cheaper with the help of your guys advice. Thanks much.

How bout this:?

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That's quite a bit lower then my 1100 dollar expectation. I can salvage my old 8800gts. Tests its ability at future games, and adjust accordingly. Along with take advantage of the price drops that the PC world knows as an inevitable. I can also just use my old DVD drive, and format my old HDD and prepare it for an extra computer around the house. or use it as a secondary drive.

Do you guys see any faults? I'll need some paste. But eh. That's 7 bucks.
Any critiques? I'm not sure about that one other website. Looked up some reviews. Kinda shabby.

Message edited by CarefulMana on 09-28-2009 at 06:40:25 AM

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