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August 1, 2011 4:45:13 PM

Hello,

I have been using this hard disk for two years and It's the time to buy new hard disk since this one makes my computer lag for example I'm playing a video game or browsing the internet the FPS jumps from 90 to ZERO! or in another way the computer freezes every 5-20 seconds without giving me an error. I gotta admit that I am really out of space and I had like 600 m.b left in disk C: and about 2.5 GB left in disk D:, and I uninstalled many applications and now I have 8.5 GB free space in disk C: and 44.5 GB free space in hard disk D:, however my pc is still lagging and it freezes every 5-20 seconds also the current application I am running gives (Not responding) error and freezes and it's any program not the browser only and I tried two browsers tho but still lags. I used many problems to fix it for example "Advanced SystemCare 4, CCleaner, IObit Malware Fighter and MalwareByte. Then the computer worked fine again for one day only and now it's lagging. Also I remember that the computer lagged like that from few months and It worked fine again until yesterday it's lagging as hell. So please help me to fix this hard disk, meanwhile I need to buy a new good hard disk that is really fast and not very expensive. I want the size to be 1.5 or 1.00 TB (1020 GB).

Thank you very much,
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a c 289 G Storage
August 1, 2011 5:23:50 PM

In my humble opinion, one current hard drive is as good as another. The "green" drives are slow and should be avoided.

That said, do you have evidence that the drive is causing the lag, as opposed to memory issues or being clogged with malware or any other possible source of freezing up? Have you looked / can you look at your event log and see if there are any hardware messages? (control panel - administrative tools - event log) Do diagnostics on the drive?
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August 1, 2011 7:57:59 PM

Well thank you for your opinion. I tried to check the event viewer and it was lagging too much so I couldn't check anything, it said "Not responding", however sometimes the PC doesn't freeze at all. I don't even know why, it's just like now, it's not lagging but I don't want to open any application because I am still afraid that the PC will lag. Anyway, here's a quote of an error from months ago.

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Instructions For Fixing Hard Disk Errors:

We strongly recommend that you backup your computer to avoid potential data loss.

After you have backed up your computer, you should contact your computer manufacturer or other hardware technical support to determine if the disk with errors needs to be repaired or replaced.

We recommend that you store these printed instructions together with the media used to back up your data (for example, the CDs or USB flash drive used to store your backup), so that everything you need to fix your computer is in one place.

The following information is provided to help the hardware technical support person diagnose the hard disk with errors.

Disk Name: WDC WD3200AAJS-00L7A0 ATA Device
Volume: C:\;D:\




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EDIT: I could check the event viewer and I found 18.886 events and about 9.943 events are from the hard disk and they give the same error, as you can see in the picture the difference between each event is like 2-4 seconds, and maybe that's why it cases lag, because the PC needs time to save the data so the PC freezes and it looks un-normal to me.

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1498/hdderror.png

Also I clicked on the error, and I selected the 'details' tab and I found these codes/numbers or whatever they are.


Quote:
+ System

- Provider

[ Name] Disk

- EventID 7

[ Qualifiers] 49156

Level 2

Task 0

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2011-08-01T19:25:10.893937600Z

EventRecordID 431189

Channel System

Computer Mido-PC

Security


- EventData

\Device\Harddisk0\DR0
030068000100000000000000070004C0000100009C0000C00000000000000000000A74712400000037960C0000000000FFFFFFFF01000000400000840200000000200A1240032040000000003C00000000000000E0ACB0850000000040ABB085A0D7E6BF05BA381228001238BA0500001000000000000000F00003000000000B00000000000000000000000000000000


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Binary data:


In Words

0000: 00680003 00000001 00000000 C0040007
0008: 00000100 C000009C 00000000 00000000
0010: 71740A00 00000024 000C9637 00000000
0018: FFFFFFFF 00000001 84000040 00000002
0020: 120A2000 40200340 00000000 0000003C
0028: 00000000 85B0ACE0 00000000 85B0AB40
0030: BFE6D7A0 1238BA05 38120028 000005BA
0038: 00000010 00000000 000300F0 0B000000
0040: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000


In Bytes

0000: 03 00 68 00 01 00 00 00 ..h.....
0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 C0 .......À
0010: 00 01 00 00 9C 00 00 C0 ....œ..À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 0A 74 71 24 00 00 00 ..tq$...
0028: 37 96 0C 00 00 00 00 00 7–......
0030: FF FF FF FF 01 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
0038: 40 00 00 84 02 00 00 00 @..„....
0040: 00 20 0A 12 40 03 20 40 . ..@. @
0048: 00 00 00 00 3C 00 00 00 ....<...
0050: 00 00 00 00 E0 AC B0 85 ....ର…
0058: 00 00 00 00 40 AB B0 85 ....@«°…
0060: A0 D7 E6 BF 05 BA 38 12 ×æ¿.º8.
0068: 28 00 12 38 BA 05 00 00 (..8º...
0070: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0078: F0 00 03 00 00 00 00 0B ð.......
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........




Oh by the way the main error is "The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block."


I hope that you can help me and find a solution.
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a c 289 G Storage
August 2, 2011 3:18:31 PM

Well, I can't read that dump, but you've made it pretty clear that the drive is failing.

The traditional solution is to buy any new drive that is compatible with your motherboard (that model appears to be SATA) and "clone" your existing drive to the new drive, copying not only the files but the Master Boot Record and boot loader, which will make the new drive bootable.

Were I in your shoes, I'd have a friend download something like Parted Magic, a tool that can make a bootable DVD and clone filesystems. Have the friend burn the bootable DVD for you. Attach both drives to the system, boot from the DVD, and use the utilities to clone the old drive to the new one. Then, if you disconnect the old drive, you should be able to boot from the new one.

Note: I'm checking Parted Magic now to see if it has Clone functionality. If not, I'll look for another bootable utility. But the idea is not to boot from your failing drive. Ahh, yes, it includes our old friend Clonezilla, a stubborn tool that is good at recovering files from failing drives.
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August 2, 2011 7:30:57 PM

I would run a check disk with the repair box selected. It will take several hours but can recover bad sectors on the drive. If there are still event viewer errors then backup all your data, format the drive and re-install the OS. Buying a new drive may not be necessary, but will probably give you a faster desktop.
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August 2, 2011 8:05:10 PM

WyomingKnott said:
Well, I can't read that dump, but you've made it pretty clear that the drive is failing.

The traditional solution is to buy any new drive that is compatible with your motherboard (that model appears to be SATA) and "clone" your existing drive to the new drive, copying not only the files but the Master Boot Record and boot loader, which will make the new drive bootable.

Were I in your shoes, I'd have a friend download something like Parted Magic, a tool that can make a bootable DVD and clone filesystems. Have the friend burn the bootable DVD for you. Attach both drives to the system, boot from the DVD, and use the utilities to clone the old drive to the new one. Then, if you disconnect the old drive, you should be able to boot from the new one.

Note: I'm checking Parted Magic now to see if it has Clone functionality. If not, I'll look for another bootable utility. But the idea is not to boot from your failing drive. Ahh, yes, it includes our old friend Clonezilla, a stubborn tool that is good at recovering files from failing drives.


It seems like a good idea, and I think it's the only option I got. However, I need details steps as soon as possible.

Thank you.


PaulR08 said:
I would run a check disk with the repair box selected. It will take several hours but can recover bad sectors on the drive. If there are still event viewer errors then backup all your data, format the drive and re-install the OS. Buying a new drive may not be necessary, but will probably give you a faster desktop.


I will try that option, but I need to know how to do that because I already tried "chkdsk /r" and "chkdsk /f" also that tool in the menu at windows booting when you select from different operation systems, there's a tool called "Windows D(something)", I don't really remember the name of it.

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August 2, 2011 8:15:30 PM

LOL!
I just checked the event viewer, and I found 27.000 errors!!

By the way, How to backup my files? My hard disk is 360 GB and I don't have another hardware and my flash is 8GB only.. and my friends can't help me at the moment.
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a c 289 G Storage
August 3, 2011 12:56:26 PM

To back up your files, you need another disk drive or other recordable media that can hold 360 GB (like 75 writable DVDs). If you can afford a new drive run, do not walk, to the nearest computer store and buy one.

As for how to perform the backup, the only difference between backing up the drive and cloning the drive is what you do with the second drive after you perform the clone. If you stick it in a desk drawer, it is a backup. If you boot off it, it is a clone.

So, to your question "I need details steps as soon as possible," I still respond
  • Get a bootable copy of Parted Magic. You may need to use a friend's PC to download it and burn the CD if your computer is that close to dead.
  • Attach both hard drives to the system
  • Boot from the CD
  • Use Clonezilla to clone the old drive to the new one.
  • Then, if you disconnect the old drive, you should be able to boot from the new one.

    That's copied directly from my previous post
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    August 3, 2011 3:19:55 PM

    WyomingKnott said:
    To back up your files, you need another disk drive or other recordable media that can hold 360 GB (like 75 writable DVDs). If you can afford a new drive run, do not walk, to the nearest computer store and buy one.

    As for how to perform the backup, the only difference between backing up the drive and cloning the drive is what you do with the second drive after you perform the clone. If you stick it in a desk drawer, it is a backup. If you boot off it, it is a clone.

    So, to your question "I need details steps as soon as possible," I still respond
  • Get a bootable copy of Parted Magic. You may need to use a friend's PC to download it and burn the CD if your computer is that close to dead.
  • Attach both hard drives to the system
  • Boot from the CD
  • Use Clonezilla to clone the old drive to the new one.
  • Then, if you disconnect the old drive, you should be able to boot from the new one.

    That's copied directly from my previous post



  • Oh thanks mate, maybe I didn't notice because I was sleepy as hell.

    Well anyway, I can start my PC without these errors using "Safe mode with network", and now I am currently talking to you using my CURRENT PC.

    I'm not planning to clone all the files from the old hard disk including the filesystems but I am planning to install a new copy of windows which is windows 7 64 bits, because I'm using win7-32 bits at the moment, also I know that I will re-install all the programs and video games to the new hard disk.

    So let's say that I will buy the new hard disk and Install windows 7-64 bits, then connect the old hard disk and copy all the setup files to the new one using safe mode. Then I'll disconnect the old hard disk. The problem that I don't know which model I will get. Like SATA or another company since my current hard disk is an old hdd from my old computer and I was too lazy to copy my files so I used the same hard disk with the new computer. Also I am unsure about dividing the hard disk, since I install all my video games on disk D: and I install all the programs and the filesystems on disk C:. So can you please tell me a decent size of dividing disk C: and disk D: if I have 2TB or 1TB.

    Thank you very much, I really appreciate your help mate.
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    a c 289 G Storage
    August 3, 2011 4:32:14 PM

    New C should be larger than your old C. (I don't see how big this is in previous posts) Considering that you will have a TB, there's no harm in over-provisioning the system partition and making it, say, 100 GB, assuming that all of your data will go on D . That still leaves you 900 GB for data.
    New D should be larger than your old D. (Ditto)
    Other than that, it's guesswork. The nice thing is, with a free tool like EASEUS Partition Doctor (?) you can re-allocate the space on the fly (after doing backups just in case).

    Edit:
    1) When you install the OS, make certain that only the new drive is connected.
    2) You pick the size of the OS partition during Win7 install. Let the install process make and format the C partition.
    2) Do you know how to create and format the D partition after the install?
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    August 3, 2011 10:49:48 PM

    WyomingKnott said:
    New C should be larger than your old C. (I don't see how big this is in previous posts) Considering that you will have a TB, there's no harm in over-provisioning the system partition and making it, say, 100 GB, assuming that all of your data will go on D . That still leaves you 900 GB for data.
    New D should be larger than your old D. (Ditto)
    Other than that, it's guesswork. The nice thing is, with a free tool like EASEUS Partition Doctor (?) you can re-allocate the space on the fly (after doing backups just in case).

    Edit:
    1) When you install the OS, make certain that only the new drive is connected.
    2) You pick the size of the OS partition during Win7 install. Let the install process make and format the C partition.
    2) Do you know how to create and format the D partition after the install?



    I do not think that I can remember how to create and format or divide the disk. However, I'm pretty sure that there are steps in the install process but I will let the guy in the store do it for me anyway.

    I had 50GB space in drive C and about 250gb+ in drive D:, and they were not enough, so I'm thinking to make it 150GB in drive C: and 850GB in drive D: or 500 in C: and 1500 GB in D:.

    Thanks.
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    August 5, 2011 4:12:08 PM

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