Nightlife e-guide now downloadable

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Prima strategy guide

---but only if you live in the USA unfortunately. They did have two
specimen pages though for the rest of us.

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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:16:06 GMT, "Fizziwig2"
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>Prima strategy guide
>
>---but only if you live in the USA unfortunately. They did have two
>specimen pages though for the rest of us.

Yeah, how come? I mean, don't they take international credit cards?
Pretty silly.
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"Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:16:06 GMT, "Fizziwig2"
> <atthebackofthenorthwind@kingdomcom.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Prima strategy guide
>>
>>---but only if you live in the USA unfortunately. They did have two
>>specimen pages though for the rest of us.
>
> Yeah, how come? I mean, don't they take international credit cards?
> Pretty silly.

Legal reasons, actually. Mostly they are too cheap to hire a lawyer who
knows various European (and Australian) laws involving commerce. But also
European countries tend to have free speech restrictions. For instance,
Germany bans Nazi stuff. Most WW2 games feature Nazis, and thus, so do the
guides. Thus the guides for those games would be illegal in Germany. Libel
laws are also stricter there - the German leader sued some newspaper for
claiming he dyed his hair. It's not unusual for games to have hidden
political commentry. Beyond Germany, I've heard about some people in the UK
getting arrested for not using the metric system. Granted, I think that was
for selling stuff in pounds, but it could worry a company.

 

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What we need is somebody in America to do the downloading for us. Then
simply mail the link one way and transfer the money the other.

MM



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> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:16:06 GMT, "Fizziwig2"
> <atthebackofthenorthwind@kingdomcom.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Prima strategy guide
>>
>>---but only if you live in the USA unfortunately. They did have two
>>specimen pages though for the rest of us.
>
> Yeah, how come? I mean, don't they take international credit cards?
> Pretty silly.
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>
>
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Fizziwig2 wrote:
> Prima strategy guide
>
> ---but only if you live in the USA unfortunately. They did have two
> specimen pages though for the rest of us.
>
> Skeats
>
>
>
Link please?

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Well, I don't think they were arrested but it is now a requirement to sell
stuff in metric measures which is a bit of a ah heck for anyone over the age
of 40 or so because we all think in pounds and ounces. I think the sellers
who protested and continued to sell in pounds were taken through the courts
though, to force the issue.

Best wishes
maxon

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>
Beyond Germany, I've heard about some people in the UK
> getting arrested for not using the metric system. Granted, I think that
was
> for selling stuff in pounds, but it could worry a company.
>
>

 

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Jeanie wrote:

> Link please?
>
> Jeanie

Here it is:

http://estore.primagames.com/eguide_detail.aspx?prodid=EA2118

I'm still deciding if I want to do this or buy a hard copy.
I could print it out, but I don't have a color printer. I
really like being able to grab the guide and look something
up while I'm in the middle of game play, so I'm thinking I'll wait.

Laura

 

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It's probably all in b&w anyway and I could
print only the parts that apply to Nightlife.
Plus, it's only $9.99, where I'm pretty sure
I paid twice that for the others...

Laura

 

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:35:59 GMT, "Maxon"
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>Well, I don't think they were arrested but it is now a requirement to sell
>stuff in metric measures which is a bit of a ah heck for anyone over the age
>of 40 or so because we all think in pounds and ounces. I think the sellers
>who protested and continued to sell in pounds were taken through the courts
>though, to force the issue.

To be honest though, they're just measurements. A lot of people act
like it's your national pride on the line. Having different languages
is one thing, having different measurements is just silly. I think we
should use the measurements that make the most scientific and
practical sense. Celsius is a decent scale because water melts at 0
and boils at 100. I never did understand why the US for instance
insisted on farenheit, which makes very little sense. As for length
and distance the metric scale also makes more sense because it
operates in units of 10, 100 and 1000, not 12 etc.
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"Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:11:49 GMT, "Maxon"
> <jen.magson@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
> And how exactly is it now?
>
> Britain drives on the left, uses miles and feet and inches and pounds
> and uses celsius!

Yes that's right but we are slowly converting to metric. Pounds are out -
now it's kilograms and grams which is less intuitive. Also inches and feet
are beginning to go too and shorter measurements are now in centimetres and
metres - again less intuitive. I'm afraid we'll always drive on the left -
you see it's better that way.

I've heard all sorts of reasons for driving on the right some involving
Napoleon and his sword arm. mmm I'm sure that can't be right. Or perhaps
it's why the British drive on the left - your sword arm is always on to the
middle of the road and you are able to defend yourself from other road users
if necessary (see, they had road rage in the 17th century England).

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:28:38 GMT, "Maxon"
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>I've heard all sorts of reasons for driving on the right some involving
>Napoleon and his sword arm. mmm I'm sure that can't be right. Or perhaps
>it's why the British drive on the left - your sword arm is always on to the
>middle of the road and you are able to defend yourself from other road users
>if necessary (see, they had road rage in the 17th century England).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_the_road

Looks like there are all kinds of crazy reasons why people drive here
or there... lol
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"Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:28:38 GMT, "Maxon"
> <jen.magson@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >I've heard all sorts of reasons for driving on the right some involving
> >Napoleon and his sword arm. mmm I'm sure that can't be right. Or
perhaps
> >it's why the British drive on the left - your sword arm is always on to
the
> >middle of the road and you are able to defend yourself from other road
users
> >if necessary (see, they had road rage in the 17th century England).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_the_road
>
> Looks like there are all kinds of crazy reasons why people drive here
> or there... lol
> --
>
Ah yes, see, Bony was a south paw and that's why he made everyone in Europe
drive on the right so his sword arm could be always to the centre of the
road. Ha. I knew it! It's all to do with an egotistical little Frenchman.

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Guardian Pegasus wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:35:59 GMT, "Maxon"
> <jen.magson@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Well, I don't think they were arrested but it is now a requirement to sell
>>stuff in metric measures which is a bit of a ah heck for anyone over the age
>>of 40 or so because we all think in pounds and ounces. I think the sellers
>>who protested and continued to sell in pounds were taken through the courts
>>though, to force the issue.
>
>
> To be honest though, they're just measurements. A lot of people act
> like it's your national pride on the line. Having different languages
> is one thing, having different measurements is just silly. I think we
> should use the measurements that make the most scientific and
> practical sense. Celsius is a decent scale because water melts at 0
> and boils at 100. I never did understand why the US for instance
> insisted on farenheit, which makes very little sense. As for length
> and distance the metric scale also makes more sense because it
> operates in units of 10, 100 and 1000, not 12 etc.

You are welcome to try convince the USA of that.

Time is base 12 and base 60.

The Farenheit scale was just some guy wandering around with a
thermometer and measured the hottest place he could find and then the
coldest place he could find. I don't think he went very far. And then he
sold a lot of thermometers before Celsius was invented. Why yes, he was
American, why do you ask? lol

Ask an Australian, an Englishmen and an American how much a pint is, in
ounces. I'd rather drink Australian pints. But even an American pint is
bigger than 0.5 liter- though not by much.

-georg

 

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:56:45 GMT, Georg <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote:

>Time is base 12 and base 60.

Yeah, that's true. Why not change this as well? Sounds weird now, but
in a hundred years nobody would care and kids would stop asking why...
at some point they just accept it, don't they? LOL

>The Farenheit scale was just some guy wandering around with a
>thermometer and measured the hottest place he could find and then the
>coldest place he could find. I don't think he went very far. And then he

LOL!

>sold a lot of thermometers before Celsius was invented. Why yes, he was
>American, why do you ask? lol

ROFL! Actually, I thought he was german? Or maybe he was a german
immigrant?

>Ask an Australian, an Englishmen and an American how much a pint is, in
>ounces. I'd rather drink Australian pints. But even an American pint is
>bigger than 0.5 liter- though not by much.

A pint is just the measure some guy decided on cause that's how big
his beermugs were, wasn't it? lol
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"Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:56:45 GMT, Georg <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Time is base 12 and base 60.
>
> Yeah, that's true. Why not change this as well? Sounds weird now, but
> in a hundred years nobody would care and kids would stop asking why...
> at some point they just accept it, don't they? LOL
>
>>The Farenheit scale was just some guy wandering around with a
>>thermometer and measured the hottest place he could find and then the
>>coldest place he could find. I don't think he went very far. And then he
>
> LOL!
>
>>sold a lot of thermometers before Celsius was invented. Why yes, he was
>>American, why do you ask? lol
>
> ROFL! Actually, I thought he was german? Or maybe he was a german
> immigrant?
>
>>Ask an Australian, an Englishmen and an American how much a pint is, in
>>ounces. I'd rather drink Australian pints. But even an American pint is
>>bigger than 0.5 liter- though not by much.
>
> A pint is just the measure some guy decided on cause that's how big
> his beermugs were, wasn't it? lol
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I think the whole argument is silly.
The metric system is no more scientific than any other system of measure.
Base ten is only used because most people have 10 fingers.
Computers use base 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128 and so on.

Celsius is an arbitrary scale based on the melting/freezing point of
distilled water at standard air pressure and the boiling point of distilled
water at standard air pressure.

Celsius is not one of the 7 Base units of the International System of Units.
kelvin is the unit of measure used in the International System of Units.

Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to Paris
and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium cylinder)

The only thing that is needed for a good system of measure is acceptance and
reliability.

 

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Guardian Pegasus wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:56:45 GMT, Georg <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Ask an Australian, an Englishmen and an American how much a pint is, in
>>ounces. I'd rather drink Australian pints. But even an American pint is
>>bigger than 0.5 liter- though not by much.
>
>
> A pint is just the measure some guy decided on cause that's how big
> his beermugs were, wasn't it? lol

The odd thing is an ounce is the same in all 3 countries.
American pint is 16 ounces.
English is 20.
Australian is either 22 or 24, I forget. I think 24 because the math is
easier.

-georg

 

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Davybear wrote:
> "Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
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> Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
> The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to Paris
> and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium cylinder)

I believe one gram = the amount of weight at 1 atmosphere of pressure
and at a certain temperature of one cubic centimeter of distilled water.

-georg

 

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> Davybear wrote:
>> "Guardian Pegasus" <nobody@nowhere.xxx> wrote in message
>> news:448ci111jicv17i8l15c15rc90struuebe@4ax.com...
>> Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
>> The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to
>> Paris and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium
>> cylinder)
>
> I believe one gram = the amount of weight at 1 atmosphere of pressure and
> at a certain temperature of one cubic centimeter of distilled water.
>
> -georg


Except pressure requires mass.
It has been thrown out as an acceptable definition of measure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram

 

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Precisely - it's a social construct. Just like more or less everything
else!

Things in base 12 work well for everyday use because you can divide 12 by
lots of numbers and get whole numbers out.

Best wishes
maxon

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>> The only thing that is needed for a good system of measure is acceptance
and
> reliability.

 

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Davybear wrote:

> The metric system is no more scientific than any other system of
> measure. Base ten is only used because most people have 10 fingers.

Which means we can easily calculate with base ten.

> Computers use base 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128 and so on.

Which is why they are cold, and mean

> Celsius is an arbitrary scale based on the melting/freezing point of
> distilled water at standard air pressure and the boiling point of
> distilled water at standard air pressure.
>
> Celsius is not one of the 7 Base units of the International System
> of
> Units. kelvin is the unit of measure used in the International
> System
> of Units.

But Kelvin degrees are the same as Celsius degrees, you just distract
273. Fahrenheit has a different scale.

> Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
> The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to
> Paris and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium
> cylinder)

True, but that goes for any measurement.

T.

 

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> Davybear wrote:
>
>> The metric system is no more scientific than any other system of
>> measure. Base ten is only used because most people have 10 fingers.
>
> Which means we can easily calculate with base ten.
>
>> Computers use base 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128 and so on.
>
> Which is why they are cold, and mean
>
>> Celsius is an arbitrary scale based on the melting/freezing point of
>> distilled water at standard air pressure and the boiling point of
>> distilled water at standard air pressure.
>>
>> Celsius is not one of the 7 Base units of the International System of
>> Units. kelvin is the unit of measure used in the International System
>> of Units.
>
> But Kelvin degrees are the same as Celsius degrees, you just distract 273.
> Fahrenheit has a different scale.
>
>> Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
>> The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to
>> Paris and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium
>> cylinder)
>
> True, but that goes for any measurement.
>
> T.
>

Not true.
Take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_base_unit

 

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"Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
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>> Davybear wrote:
>>
>>>
--------Did you know that the kilogram is completely arbitrary.
>>> The only way you can get a true kilogram unit of measure is to go to
>>> Paris and compare it to the standard kilogram (a platinum-iridium
>>> cylinder)
>>
>> True, but that goes for any measurement.
>>
>> T.
>>
>
> Not true.
> Take a look at:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_base_unit
>


As my original message has been hijacked can I just say that in the uk I
prefer to buy the 4 pints of milk cartons (2.2272 litres) rather than the 2
litres cartons offered in some shops. Some of the latter charge the same
for two litres as others charge for the 4 pints.

Not too much heavier to carry but lasts longer!
;-)

Skeats

 

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:30:34 GMT, Georg <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote:

>The odd thing is an ounce is the same in all 3 countries.
>American pint is 16 ounces.
>English is 20.
>Australian is either 22 or 24, I forget. I think 24 because the math is
>easier.

Aussies are big beer drinkers. And english more so than americans.
Makes perfect sense to me LOL :-D
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:38:01 -0500, "Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>The metric system is no more scientific than any other system of measure.
>Base ten is only used because most people have 10 fingers.

Exactly, and it's the easiest one to grasp and multiply because it
deals in identical standards. 10(1) 10(2) etc. you can't say the same
for bits.

>Celsius is an arbitrary scale based on the melting/freezing point of
>distilled water at standard air pressure and the boiling point of distilled
>water at standard air pressure.

It's not arbitrary if you live on planet earth.
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It's a long time since I worked in a pub, but the 24 sounds better to me
(rings more bells).

On the other hand I haven't had a beer in almost two years. I must be
letting the side down.

;')

MM



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> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:30:34 GMT, Georg <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>The odd thing is an ounce is the same in all 3 countries.
>>American pint is 16 ounces.
>>English is 20.
>>Australian is either 22 or 24, I forget. I think 24 because the math is
>>easier.
>
> Aussies are big beer drinkers. And english more so than americans.
> Makes perfect sense to me LOL :-D
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