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Need help deciding about my pc. please help

im currently running a msi p6ngm2 motherboard with intel core duo 2.2ghz processor, 4gb 667 ddr2 ram. have a 232gb hard drive, and a 1.5tb hard drive, and i have a 450 watt psu with one 12v rail of 25 amps. most decent video cards require more than my psu can dish out, so should i upgrade processor, and psu, or should i upgrade mobo,processor, and psu. i want to have a very decent gaming pc. i dont know if i should get a 3ghz duo, 3.06 ghz quad, or go with one of the i series cpu. whats better in the long run???? thanks in advance to everyone who gave advice.
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  1. by the way, i think these are the video cards that are compatible, are they eorth buying, or should i upgrade mobo,cpu,psu?

    list:
    Support Devices

    GeForce 285 GTX
    GeForce 280 GTX
    GeForce 260 GTX
    GeForce 9800 GTX+
    GeForce 9800 GT
    GeForce 9600 GT
    Devices NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+2
    NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
    NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO
    NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
    NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
    NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT
    MSI NX7100 GS
    MSI NX7300 LE
    MSI NX7800GS
    MSI NX7300 GS
    MSI FX5200
    MSI FX5500
    MSI NX6200
    MSI NX6200 TC
    MSI NX6200LE
    MSI NX6200AX
    MSI NX9800 GTX
    MSI NX9800 GX2
    MSI NX7500 LE
    MSI NX7600 GT
    MSI NX7600 GS
    MSI NX7300 GT
    MSI NX8800 GTX
    MSI NX8800 GTS
    MSI NX8800 Ultra
    MSI NX8600 GTS
    MSI NX8600 GT
    MSI NX8600 GS
    MSI NX8500 GT
    MSI NX7900 GT/GTO
    MSI NX7900 GS
    MSI NX7950 GX2
    MSI NX7950 GT
    MSI NX8400 GS
    MSI NX8400
    MSI NX9600 GSO
    MSI NX9600 GT
    MSI NX8800 GT
    MSI NX8800 GTS 512
    MSI NX9800 GT
  2. Best answer
    1. You do not need to limit yourself to Nvidia video cards. In fact, for performance and price, you will be much better off with an ATI 5xxx series card if your intent is to build a gaming machine.

    Any motherboard will support either brand as long as it's a single card. It's only when you get into crossfire/SLI with multiple cards that it matters.

    2. You can run a 5750 or 5770 on a 450W PSU, so you likely will not need a new PSU if you opt for either of those. However, if you get a 58xx series, you should go above 500W to be safe.

    3. You do not necessarily need a new motherboard. Yours will support Intel's Yorkfield series quad cores (Q9xxx), which are still very good gaming CPUs.

    4. However, if you keep that motherboard, you will be limited in your future upgrade paths (no i5/i7/i9 CPUs, no DDR3 RAM).

    5. So, you need to decide now whether you're spending a lot of money or a little money. If you're replacing the motherboard, you're basically going to be building a whole new machine.

    The way I see it, your options are:


    Lowest Budget:
    - Keep motherboard
    - Keep RAM
    - Keep PSU
    - HD 5770 video card - $160 (approx.)
    - Yorkfield Q8400/Q9300/Q9400 - $200 or less
    - no room for future CPU or RAM upgrade

    Mid budget:
    - Keep PSU
    - New AM3 motherboard + AMD quad core = $250 (approx.)
    - DDR3 RAM - $100 or less
    - HD 5770 - $160
    - Can upgrade in future

    Higher budget:
    - New AM3 motherboard + AMD quad core = $250 (approx.)
    - DDR3 RAM - $100 or less
    - Bigger PSU - $70+
    - HD 5850 - $300
    - Can upgrade in future

    Highest budget:
    - Socket 1366 motherboard - $150+
    - Intel i5/i7 CPU - $250-$500
    - DDR3 RAM - $100+
    - Bigger PSU - $70+
    - HD 5850 or 5870 - $300-$400
    - Can upgrade in future
  3. capt_taco said:
    1. You do not need to limit yourself to Nvidia video cards. In fact, for performance and price, you will be much better off with an ATI 5xxx series card if your intent is to build a gaming machine.

    Any motherboard will support either brand as long as it's a single card. It's only when you get into crossfire/SLI with multiple cards that it matters.

    2. You can run a 5750 or 5770 on a 450W PSU, so you likely will not need a new PSU if you opt for either of those. However, if you get a 58xx series, you should go above 500W to be safe.

    3. You do not necessarily need a new motherboard. Yours will support Intel's Yorkfield series quad cores (Q9xxx), which are still very good gaming CPUs.

    4. However, if you keep that motherboard, you will be limited in your future upgrade paths (no i5/i7/i9 CPUs, no DDR3 RAM).

    5. So, you need to decide now whether you're spending a lot of money or a little money. If you're replacing the motherboard, you're basically going to be building a whole new machine.

    The way I see it, your options are:


    Lowest Budget:
    - Keep motherboard
    - Keep RAM
    - Keep PSU
    - HD 5770 video card - $160 (approx.)
    - Yorkfield Q8400/Q9300/Q9400 - $200 or less
    - no room for future CPU or RAM upgrade

    Mid budget:
    - Keep PSU
    - New AM3 motherboard + AMD quad core = $250 (approx.)
    - DDR3 RAM - $100 or less
    - HD 5770 - $160
    - Can upgrade in future

    Higher budget:
    - New AM3 motherboard + AMD quad core = $250 (approx.)
    - DDR3 RAM - $100 or less
    - Bigger PSU - $70+
    - HD 5850 - $300
    - Can upgrade in future

    Highest budget:
    - Socket 1366 motherboard - $150+
    - Intel i5/i7 CPU - $250-$500
    - DDR3 RAM - $100+
    - Bigger PSU - $70+
    - HD 5850 or 5870 - $300-$400
    - Can upgrade in future


    WOW... Great answer... :lol:
    So a 500Watt would support a 5770? With an i5 overclocked to 4.0GHz? I have the 9600GT, so i might upgrade in a year or two... :)
  4. Best answer selected by lilpup72404.
  5. gidgiddonihah said:
    WOW... Great answer... :lol:
    So a 500Watt would support a 5770? With an i5 overclocked to 4.0GHz? I have the 9600GT, so i might upgrade in a year or two... :)


    It should support that ... manufacturer's recommended specs for the 5770 is a 450W power supply, or 600W for crossfired 5770s. And those are usually drastically overstated numbers.
  6. They really are :). I cant imagine how long it took to type all that info down! whew! ;)
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