Phenom OC problems

[nsenn83]

Hi everyone, I see lots of posts about overclocking an amd phenom 9650 but I'm having an issue getting the multiplier to even work. When I run cpuz it says its running at 1150mhz, 200 x 5.75. I did some research online and seems to be this is idle for the cpu but i have cool and quiet disabled so it shouldn't be idling correct? Next even when i load test, (and I've tried occt, amd overdrive, and prime95) it still stays at its 5.75 multiplier. Plus the temp stays at 36degrees under full load so i know something isn't kicking in right. I just got this chip used off of eBay is it possible that its crapped out? I'm no computer genius but I understand a little about overclocking, i had my Athlon 4400 at a stable 2.6ghz, and if I even touch clock speed it locks up. Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated thank you. And before everyone rags on me about buying this chip its the highest my mobo supports and i didn't want to have to buy a whole new mobo/cpu and new license of windows so I'm trying to get the most out of what i have.

specs are
cpu: amd phenom 9650
mobo: Biostar a770 a2+
ram: kingston hyperx ddr800 4g (2 x 2g)
psu: 600w
gpu: geforce9500

 

[truegenius]

try to use high performance power plan in control panel/power option

you may want to read this discusion
www.tomshardware.com/forum/271708-29-help-unlock-phenom-9850-multiplier

 

[nsenn83]

Alright thanks for the info I turned the power control to performance and that seemed to unlock my CPU. Then I made changes like the link you gave said but my processor is extremely unstable over 215. I know i need to bump up my voltage when i start the comp it says CPU voltage is at 1.136 that sounds really low to me but I'm leery of bumping it up too much, I've made up to a .1v change in bios without much effect, under my CPU and mem voltage options there is a voltage regulator for i believe ht and nb set at 1.2v by system do i need to touch that? Also what is a safe voltage for that processor, so far when i can get a load test going my heats in the mid 30s so I'm pretty sure i have some heat room to work with

 

[Headspin_69]

Alright thanks for the info I turned the power control to performance and that seemed to unlock my CPU. Then I made changes like the link you gave said but my processor is extremely unstable over 215. I know i need to bump up my voltage when i start the comp it says CPU voltage is at 1.136 that sounds really low to me but I'm leery of bumping it up too much, I've made up to a .1v change in bios without much effect, under my CPU and mem voltage options there is a voltage regulator for i believe ht and nb set at 1.2v by system do i need to touch that? Also what is a safe voltage for that processor, so far when i can get a load test going my heats in the mid 30s so I'm pretty sure i have some heat room to work with

Phenom 1s are real crappy CPUs and they done like to be Overclocked at all my suggestion is to upgrade or just leave it alone.

 

[nsenn83]

Be that as it may its what i have to work with and I know it can be oc'd even if its a pain in the wiener. I found out though that even though i change the cpu voltage in bios its not changing it, even with a .1v increase in bios its still booting up with 1.136 any idea why that is?

 

[truegenius]

Alright thanks for the info I turned the power control to performance and that seemed to unlock my CPU. Then I made changes like the link you gave said but my processor is extremely unstable over 215. I know i need to bump up my voltage when i start the comp it says CPU voltage is at 1.136 that sounds really low to me but I'm leery of bumping it up too much, I've made up to a .1v change in bios without much effect, under my CPU and mem voltage options there is a voltage regulator for i believe ht and nb set at 1.2v by system do i need to touch that? Also what is a safe voltage for that processor, so far when i can get a load test going my heats in the mid 30s so I'm pretty sure i have some heat room to work with

instead of trfc1 use trfc0 to 192 or 325

 

[nsenn83]

This just gets more and more fun, I did put trfc0 at 192 and system wouldn't let me adjust voltage to cpu to fix stability. I just put to 325 and now voltage to cpu was bumped up to cpu to 1.25 withouth me changing it to that number i left it at stock, my multiplier is back down to 5.5, and any change i make right now is just being ignored

 

[truegenius]

can you pos your readings of temps and details of cpuz

 

[nsenn83]

Here i used amd overdrive i think it has all the options you're wanting to see, also i noticed if i touch the cpu vid in overdrive it doesn't do anything to cpu voltage but if i slide the nb vid up it changes both the nb and the cpu vid. Is that a plausible way to up my cpu voltage?

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[truegenius]

i think 2.7 is limit of your cpu at 1.25v (it is max recomended) (due to wattage limitation of your board).

FOR MAX CPU SPEED TO GET
try ram timings of 800mhz clock and speed of 667mhz to keep it out to be a limiting factor

keep your ht, cpu and nb multiplier as low as you can (to check max fsb supported)(you can use cputweaker for nb and cpu)
set vcore at stock

and then let me know how much you get in fsb ( i guess you can get fsb at 270 max).....

 

[nsenn83]

Alright so I bumped my voltage up with the nb slider in amd overdrive and i set my fsb to 237 x 11.5 which gives me a completely stable 2695mhz with temps that don't even break 50c at full load, i could probably squeeze some more out of it but I'm completely happy with 2.7 since my goal was at least 2.6. Thank you all for your help and input.

 

[truegenius]

there ya go
nice overclock
nice decision

 

[nsenn83]

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[truegenius]

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