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September 29, 2009 8:43:03 AM

Alright Guys if anyone can help me out with a well though out reply I would really appreciate it. I am looking to build a 100% game rig, along the "enthusiast line". Nothing super cheap but nothing over the top. The price of $1400 needs to include a new monitor - I want a 24"ish flat screen, and I want that thing to be nice! If you think it pays to build a system for a bit less or a bit more (100 bones either way) go ahead, I really am looking for the best bang for the buck and from my reading thinking the $1400 dollar range, before taxes, is probably in the upper end of the "sweet spot". You tell me. :ange: 

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
Tomorrow. Today, aka Damn Soon. (hopefully to take advantage of some end of the month deals from Newegg.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: All Gaming.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard. Mouse. Headset. (Need Speakers)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.
PARTS PREFERENCES: None - but needless to say I want quality, well tested goods.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes - but this will be my first overclock so it needs to be relatively easy.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: If preferred, but also I want to keep in mind future upgrades, so taking one card and adding another in the future should at least be considered.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP - I was hoping that the $1,250 enthusiast build article Tom's did was going to give me a great start but that 4x graphic card setup just seemed a little to experimental for me. I need a good meat and potatoes game rig that really sings!

Cheers,

Ernest. :love: 

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September 29, 2009 9:11:26 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 Free Shipping*
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

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PC Power and Cooling SILENCER 750W QUAD S75CF Power Supply Retail

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ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

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Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

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Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1333C7 G - Retail

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Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE 22X SATA DVD+/-RW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/o Software

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GIGABYTE nVidia GeForce GTX275 OC 896MB DDR3 DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card

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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM | Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon

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ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
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September 29, 2009 5:01:36 PM

Here is a similar build to Why_Me but with more graphics horsepower and at the same time very similar CPU horsepower... IMO

Total Build: $1,364.87
Combo: CPU, MOBO & RAM
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
ASUS P7P55D LE LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail

Combo: HSF & Thermal Compound
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

Combo: OS & HDD
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail

CASE: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

DVD: SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM

Monitor: Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
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September 29, 2009 7:04:19 PM

thanks for the responses guys very much. if i wanted to take the vid card up a notch and stick with nvidia in the first build whats the best option? thanks.
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September 29, 2009 7:10:14 PM

burwang said:
thanks for the responses guys very much. if i wanted to take the vid card up a notch and stick with nvidia in the first build whats the best option? thanks.


gtx 295 > gtx 285 > gtx 275

The gtx495 and gtx285 are rip offs imo ..and a lot of other peoples also. Nvidea comes out with their new DX11 line up this mid December. Those cards will likely mop the floor with any Nvidea card to date. The gtx 295 is two down clocked gtx 275's in one card. That card I posted in that build up above is a factory over clocked 275.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,226... <--- gtx 275 review and benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-sli,229... <--- dual gtx 275's in SLI > gtx 295
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September 29, 2009 7:43:00 PM

tecmo34 said:
Here is a similar build to Why_Me but with more graphics horsepower and at the same time very similar CPU horsepower... IMO


The only problem with the i5 system is that if the OP does want to Xfire or SLI high end cards in the future, they will likely be bottlenecked by the x8 bandwidth on the mobo. I'm looking into building a system and I'm having that exact dilemma at the moment :p 
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September 29, 2009 8:04:50 PM

Do single GPU cards use up the full 8x bandwith? Sorry to sort of hijack this with my question :) .

As for the OP, I would go with the 1156 build and invest more in a high-end graphics card. Just know that you won't be getting the super hardcore "enthusiast" line of Intel products. To me, that is negligible if it performs well enough :) .

The 1366 is supposed to be better for SLI/CF, but it isn't like the 1156 will suck miserably. Just remember, for gaming, GPU is your workhorse, so don't slump on it if you want good gaming performance.
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September 29, 2009 8:07:45 PM

era86 said:
Do single GPU cards use up the full 8x bandwith? Sorry to sort of hijack this with my question :) .

As for the OP, I would go with the 1156 build and invest more in a high-end graphics card. Just know that you won't be getting the super hardcore "enthusiast" line of Intel products. To me, that is negligible if it performs well enough :) .

The 1366 is supposed to be better for SLI/CF, but it isn't like the 1156 will suck miserably. Just remember, for gaming, GPU is your workhorse, so don't slump on it if you want good gaming performance.


The P55 board run one card @ 16x and a decent P55 board runs two cards @ 8x and 8x. The cheaper P55 boards run dual cards @ 4x and 4x. The X58 boards run dual cards @ 16x and 16x. So if your running two top end cards in SLI/Crossire at high resolution then I would think the X58 boards would be the way to go. Especially if they are right around the same price as a 1156 build.
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September 29, 2009 8:33:09 PM

Why_Me said:
The P55 board run one card @ 16x and a decent P55 board runs two cards @ 8x and 8x. The cheaper P55 boards run dual cards @ 4x and 4x. The X58 boards run dual cards @ 16x and 16x. So if your running two top end cards in SLI/Crossire at high resolution then I would think the X58 boards would be the way to go. Especially if they are right around the same price as a 1156 build.

Agreed!!

My build was an alternative to provide a one card setup with superior graphics, without needing to add another card in SLI/Crossfire. Since the OP does want that option, I agree at this budget, the Core i7 920 is the way to go.
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September 29, 2009 8:36:03 PM

tecmo34 said:
Agreed!!

My build was an alternative to provide a one card setup with superior graphics, without needing to add another card in SLI/Crossfire. Since the OP does want that option, I agree at this budget, the Core i7 920 is the way to go.

I know most on here won't agree with me, but I like a one card set up myself. Iv'e had terrible luck with SLI and Crossfire. Might have been that I'm an idiot when it comes to that stuff...but it was a pain in the arse. That was a few years back. I'm sure Nvidea and ATI have all that ironed out by now...but I'm still a bit hesitant.
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