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September 11, 2005 9:16:08 PM

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I mean completely frozen. Not moving at all. In Sims 2 University, in
one of my dorms, one of my NPC students is dressed as a cow. She's been
standing in the same spot in a common area for a couple of semesters. I
haven't tried to interact with her, because I'm afraid it might crash
the game. I'm thinking of trying it, though, after saving, to see what
happens. I just thought I'd check here first, to see if anyone's come
across this before.

She's not standing in a doorway and there are no diagonal walls. This is
a premade dorm, on the La Fiesta University campus. People just walk
around her. I haven't seen any of the other students interact with her
and my sims haven't tried to talk to her when I've let them run on their
own. She doesn't seem to be blocking anything. She's just standing
there, staring at the floor, with her arms raised.

Has anyone seen anything like this before?

Thanks,
Morgan

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Anonymous
September 12, 2005 3:45:07 AM

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:16:08 -0400, Morgan
<morgans@nospamzoom-dsldotcom> wrote:

>I mean completely frozen. Not moving at all. In Sims 2 University, in
>one of my dorms, one of my NPC students is dressed as a cow. She's been
>standing in the same spot in a common area for a couple of semesters. I
>haven't tried to interact with her, because I'm afraid it might crash
>the game. I'm thinking of trying it, though, after saving, to see what
>happens. I just thought I'd check here first, to see if anyone's come
>across this before.
>
>She's not standing in a doorway and there are no diagonal walls. This is
>a premade dorm, on the La Fiesta University campus. People just walk
>around her. I haven't seen any of the other students interact with her
>and my sims haven't tried to talk to her when I've let them run on their
>own. She doesn't seem to be blocking anything. She's just standing
>there, staring at the floor, with her arms raised.
>
>Has anyone seen anything like this before?

Heh, can't say I have... what about trying to delete her, or using the
NPC killer, or tombstone of L&D or moving your students out of the
dorm and into another one?
--


Supreme Overlord of the Alien Vampire Zombie Ghost Invasion Horde,
your neighbourhood could be next!
Anonymous
September 12, 2005 3:45:08 AM

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If you grab NPC students (moveObjects on) and delete them, they regenerate a
few minutes later. I think this might help. Sims seem to get stuck when
they get an action cancelled - babies and toddlers and interactions with
babies and toddlers are particularly bad. They seem to be unable to get
completely out of the action and need to complete it before they can move
on. Of course, if the action has been cancelled, this is impossible.
Deleting them usually resets them (and restores their needs). Or you might
try the Pescado's LotDebugger - I haven't tried it for this but I think it's
the sort of thing it's designed to help with. If you try this, make sure
you read the instructions carefully.

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?board=3...

Best wishes
maxon


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> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:16:08 -0400, Morgan
> <morgans@nospamzoom-dsldotcom> wrote:
>
> >I mean completely frozen. Not moving at all. In Sims 2 University, in
> >one of my dorms, one of my NPC students is dressed as a cow. She's been
> >standing in the same spot in a common area for a couple of semesters. I
> >haven't tried to interact with her, because I'm afraid it might crash
> >the game. I'm thinking of trying it, though, after saving, to see what
> >happens. I just thought I'd check here first, to see if anyone's come
> >across this before.
> >
> >She's not standing in a doorway and there are no diagonal walls. This is
> >a premade dorm, on the La Fiesta University campus. People just walk
> >around her. I haven't seen any of the other students interact with her
> >and my sims haven't tried to talk to her when I've let them run on their
> >own. She doesn't seem to be blocking anything. She's just standing
> >there, staring at the floor, with her arms raised.
> >
> >Has anyone seen anything like this before?
>
> Heh, can't say I have... what about trying to delete her, or using the
> NPC killer, or tombstone of L&D or moving your students out of the
> dorm and into another one?
> --
>
>
> Supreme Overlord of the Alien Vampire Zombie Ghost Invasion Horde,
> your neighbourhood could be next!
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Anonymous
September 12, 2005 10:33:27 PM

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Morgan wrote:

> Has anyone seen anything like this before?

I have. They sometimes move their eyes :-) You can tease them, too.
Sometimes they will burst out crying. Mine eventually walked away, but
I can't remember what triggered it. I've never had a crash over this.
Let us know what happens, if you will.

T.
September 12, 2005 10:33:28 PM

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Taemon wrote:
> Morgan wrote:
>
>
>>Has anyone seen anything like this before?
>
>
> I have. They sometimes move their eyes :-) You can tease them, too.
> Sometimes they will burst out crying. Mine eventually walked away, but
> I can't remember what triggered it. I've never had a crash over this.
> Let us know what happens, if you will.
>
> T.
>
>
Huh. Well, I had Sean try to interact with Joy, the completely immobile
one. (I now have two.) Andrew, another cow, doesn't move from where he's
standing, but he does occasionally rock in place. Joy doesn't respond to
any attempts to talk to her, prank her, influence her, or anything else.
Neither does Andrew, though I haven't tried to influence either of them
to clean. My husband says that every time he's tried to influence a cow
to clean, it's run away. He says their idea of fun is to set off the
sprinkler system. I haven't actually seen it happen.

If I want to try any other interactions, I'll have to make up another
sim to send into the dorm. Sean just graduated and moved in with Mack.
They're going to get married tonight, I think, after my daughter
finishes her homework and my husband gets home. So probably after we've
all had dinner. And I don't think I'll need to use the motherlode cheat
after all. (That's how I'd planned to accomplish the graduation/wedding
gifts I mentioned in the wedding arch issues thread.)

I may send a sim into the dorm just to see about the cows. Sim Pickins,
from the Bar Angus Household, I think. Or something like that.

Morgan
Anonymous
September 13, 2005 4:40:04 AM

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I'm not going to be any help but this reminded me of something I've had
happen a few times :) 

I've occasionally had a sim get 'stuck' in a position after being told
to go do something else, then they'll wriggle their heads, their arms
and finally start walking to where they've got to go - it's like
they've been stuck in a block of ice and as it melts, they regain
control of their motor skills!

~*~
vecki
Anonymous
September 13, 2005 10:53:39 AM

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> If I want to try any other interactions, I'll have to make up another
> sim to send into the dorm. Sean just graduated and moved in with Mack.
> They're going to get married tonight, I think, after my daughter
> finishes her homework and my husband gets home. So probably after we've
> all had dinner. And I don't think I'll need to use the motherlode cheat
> after all. (That's how I'd planned to accomplish the graduation/wedding
> gifts I mentioned in the wedding arch issues thread.)
>
> I may send a sim into the dorm just to see about the cows. Sim Pickins,
> from the Bar Angus Household, I think. Or something like that.
>
> Morgan

If you've graduated all your playable sims from that dorm, it's going to
reset before you get back into it with another batch of students. I'm
pretty sure the cows will be gone when that occurs.

Jeanie
September 13, 2005 11:45:59 AM

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Jeanie wrote:

>
>> If I want to try any other interactions, I'll have to make up another
>> sim to send into the dorm. Sean just graduated and moved in with Mack.
>> They're going to get married tonight, I think, after my daughter
>> finishes her homework and my husband gets home. So probably after
>> we've all had dinner. And I don't think I'll need to use the
>> motherlode cheat after all. (That's how I'd planned to accomplish the
>> graduation/wedding gifts I mentioned in the wedding arch issues thread.)
>>
>> I may send a sim into the dorm just to see about the cows. Sim
>> Pickins, from the Bar Angus Household, I think. Or something like that.
>>
>> Morgan
>
>
> If you've graduated all your playable sims from that dorm, it's going to
> reset before you get back into it with another batch of students. I'm
> pretty sure the cows will be gone when that occurs.
>
> Jeanie

Phooey. Well, I'll make the sim and send him in anyway. Maybe her. Can't
hurt to check it out. I can always put the sim back in the bin if I
don't feel like playing him or her.

Why do students turn into cows? If I'm recalling this correctly, Joy was
a perfectly normal student for a day or so, at the beginning of the
semester. I think the first time Mack met her, she wasn't a cow. She was
by the time Sean did, though.

Morgan
September 13, 2005 7:09:47 PM

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Morgan said


> Why do students turn into cows? If I'm recalling this correctly, Joy
> was a perfectly normal student for a day or so, at the beginning of
> the semester. I think the first time Mack met her, she wasn't a cow.
> She was by the time Sean did, though.
>

The Cow is the Evil Mascot from a rival college. Like the Llama is the
good one.

I married one of my Sims to a Cow called Joel. While they were getting
friendly at college and also when she was first back home, he was a fair
skinned blond. After I had succeeded in getting them married he was a
medium skinned and dark haired. Weird!


--
kat
>^..^<
September 13, 2005 8:17:57 PM

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kat wrote:

> Morgan said
>
>
>
>>Why do students turn into cows? If I'm recalling this correctly, Joy
>>was a perfectly normal student for a day or so, at the beginning of
>>the semester. I think the first time Mack met her, she wasn't a cow.
>>She was by the time Sean did, though.
>>
>
>
> The Cow is the Evil Mascot from a rival college. Like the Llama is the
> good one.

Well, that explains the sprinkler system trick.

>
> I married one of my Sims to a Cow called Joel. While they were getting
> friendly at college and also when she was first back home, he was a fair
> skinned blond. After I had succeeded in getting them married he was a
> medium skinned and dark haired. Weird!

Very!

Okay, how did that happen? The marriage, I mean. What was the sequence
of events?

Morgan
>
>
September 14, 2005 12:55:58 PM

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Morgan said

> kat wrote:

>
>>
>> I married one of my Sims to a Cow called Joel. While they were
>> getting friendly at college and also when she was first back home,
>> he was a fair skinned blond. After I had succeeded in getting them
>> married he was a medium skinned and dark haired. Weird!
>
> Very!
>
> Okay, how did that happen? The marriage, I mean. What was the sequence
> of events?
>

Rosalind is part of a dynasty and she was living in the family home at
La Fiesta Tech. The Cow came visiting, no sprinklers for him to set
off, and somehow, he didn't seem too "playful" with her. They got
friendly pretty fast - some sims do I find - and eventually she proposed
and they got engaged.

She went home, to her parents place, and invited Joel over. Before,
when I've done that with a student, the graduated one gets an option to
propose Move In, and moving in that makes the student grow up to Adult.
They seem, if townies, to arrrive graduated in some discipline or other,
with exactly the skills needed for that discipline, if your Sim is a
graduate. Then as adults you get the Propose marriage option.

But I didn't get the Move In option. He could however, Stay the Night,
which is how he came to be seen out of his Cow Suit, and blond.

I did a bit of research and found, I think it was in this group, the
answer - that the Mascots and Cheerleaders are "different", and you have
to get them playable - that is get them to Move In back at the college.
So I returned to the college, where thankfully Rosalind had a cousin in
the house and spent time getting Joel friendly with him, got him to move
in, then went back to the neighbourhood, got him over to visit Ros, and
there it was, the Move In option. So he did, and they got married under
the Arch. And when he put on the tux he was no longer blond, but dark.


--
kat
>^..^<
September 14, 2005 9:07:57 PM

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kat wrote:

> Morgan said
>
>
>>kat wrote:
>
>
>>>I married one of my Sims to a Cow called Joel. While they were
>>>getting friendly at college and also when she was first back home,
>>>he was a fair skinned blond. After I had succeeded in getting them
>>>married he was a medium skinned and dark haired. Weird!
>>
>>Very!
>>
>>Okay, how did that happen? The marriage, I mean. What was the sequence
>>of events?
>>
>
>
> Rosalind is part of a dynasty and she was living in the family home at
> La Fiesta Tech. The Cow came visiting, no sprinklers for him to set
> off, and somehow, he didn't seem too "playful" with her. They got
> friendly pretty fast - some sims do I find - and eventually she proposed
> and they got engaged.
>
> She went home, to her parents place, and invited Joel over. Before,
> when I've done that with a student, the graduated one gets an option to
> propose Move In, and moving in that makes the student grow up to Adult.
> They seem, if townies, to arrrive graduated in some discipline or other,
> with exactly the skills needed for that discipline, if your Sim is a
> graduate. Then as adults you get the Propose marriage option.
>
> But I didn't get the Move In option. He could however, Stay the Night,
> which is how he came to be seen out of his Cow Suit, and blond.
>
> I did a bit of research and found, I think it was in this group, the
> answer - that the Mascots and Cheerleaders are "different", and you have
> to get them playable - that is get them to Move In back at the college.
> So I returned to the college, where thankfully Rosalind had a cousin in
> the house and spent time getting Joel friendly with him, got him to move
> in, then went back to the neighbourhood, got him over to visit Ros, and
> there it was, the Move In option. So he did, and they got married under
> the Arch. And when he put on the tux he was no longer blond, but dark.
>
>
Wow. Maybe I should explore some of the existing families. Too bad I
don't have any in Very Vipery Canyon (where my Travis family lives).
Eventually I'll need someone to marry Sean and Mack's kids, so Mack can
have a bunch of grandchildren. (All Sean wants is to become a Mad
Scientist.)

Thanks!

Morgan
September 15, 2005 2:42:15 AM

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Morgan said

> kat wrote:
>

>> Rosalind is part of a dynasty and she was living in the family home
>> at La Fiesta Tech. The Cow came visiting, no sprinklers for him to
<snip>
> Wow. Maybe I should explore some of the existing families. Too bad I
> don't have any in Very Vipery Canyon (where my Travis family lives).
> Eventually I'll need someone to marry Sean and Mack's kids, so Mack
> can have a bunch of grandchildren. (All Sean wants is to become a Mad
> Scientist.)
>

Rosalind isn't part of any existing family, just part of one I started.
She's the daughter of the younger daughter of the original couple.

You can stick another family or two into your neighbourhood, or marry
the children off to Townies and NPCs from the neighbourhood, or from
college. There will be plenty around. Ros married the Cow, her mother
a bartender, her aunt a student. Her elder cousin married someone her
dad brought home from work, the younger another student. None of them
got involved with the original families.

But, Sean and mack's kids don't need to get married to have those
granchildren - they can adopt and they can be single when they do it. I
had one single man - a Romance Sim, he didn't want to get tied down -
adopt 4 children one a day for 4 days. I got them at Child age, but
made him do it on the basic money plus what he could earn as he did it.
It got his father his want for 6 grandchildren, and was fun too.:-)


--
kat
>^..^<
September 15, 2005 2:42:16 AM

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kat wrote:

> Morgan said
>
>
>>kat wrote:
>>
>
>
>>>Rosalind is part of a dynasty and she was living in the family home
>>>at La Fiesta Tech. The Cow came visiting, no sprinklers for him to
>
> <snip>
>
>>Wow. Maybe I should explore some of the existing families. Too bad I
>>don't have any in Very Vipery Canyon (where my Travis family lives).
>>Eventually I'll need someone to marry Sean and Mack's kids, so Mack
>>can have a bunch of grandchildren. (All Sean wants is to become a Mad
>>Scientist.)
>>
>
>
> Rosalind isn't part of any existing family, just part of one I started.
> She's the daughter of the younger daughter of the original couple.
>
> You can stick another family or two into your neighbourhood, or marry
> the children off to Townies and NPCs from the neighbourhood, or from
> college. There will be plenty around. Ros married the Cow, her mother
> a bartender, her aunt a student. Her elder cousin married someone her
> dad brought home from work, the younger another student. None of them
> got involved with the original families.
>
> But, Sean and mack's kids don't need to get married to have those
> granchildren - they can adopt and they can be single when they do it. I
> had one single man - a Romance Sim, he didn't want to get tied down -
> adopt 4 children one a day for 4 days. I got them at Child age, but
> made him do it on the basic money plus what he could earn as he did it.
> It got his father his want for 6 grandchildren, and was fun too.:-)
>
>
Hmmm. Single parenting. That could work. So far Sean and Mack have
adopted three kids. All three are at home at the moment, but Blake will
leave for college soon, I think. I think one of us is going to get tired
of his bratty little brother harassing him all the time. I'm not sure if
it'll be the teenager or me who gives first! ;-)

I may adopt a toddler next (the other three were all adopted as
children) or I may just let Mack paint while the kids are at school.
I've had him writing a novel, but he doesn't seem to enjoy that. He
liked painting at college and he has a high creativity score, so he
might be able to pick up a few simoleons, too. That'd be nice; the kids
all want some expensive toys: pianos, telescopes and the like.

Morgan
September 15, 2005 11:52:13 AM

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Morgan said

> kat wrote:



>>
>> But, Sean and mack's kids don't need to get married to have those
>> granchildren - they can adopt and they can be single when they do
>> it. I had one single man - a Romance Sim, he didn't want to get
>> tied down - adopt 4 children one a day for 4 days. I got them at
>> Child age, but made him do it on the basic money plus what he could
>> earn as he did it. It got his father his want for 6 grandchildren,
>> and was fun too.:-)
> Hmmm. Single parenting. That could work. So far Sean and Mack have
> adopted three kids. All three are at home at the moment, but Blake
> will leave for college soon, I think. I think one of us is going to
> get tired of his bratty little brother harassing him all the time.
> I'm not sure if it'll be the teenager or me who gives first! ;-)


LOL.

>
> I may adopt a toddler next (the other three were all adopted as


Toddlers are adorable, but hard work for mum and dad - or dad and dad -
and even worse for just dad. :-) They don't sleep all night for one
thing. That was why I went for 4 children that time. You can get them
great toys, and Smart Milk, and they can build up a heap of skill
points, and toddlers who have smart milk seem to be able to learn better
as children - though I don't know if it is really supposed to carry
through.


> children) or I may just let Mack paint while the kids are at school.
> I've had him writing a novel, but he doesn't seem to enjoy that. He
> liked painting at college and he has a high creativity score, so he
> might be able to pick up a few simoleons, too. That'd be nice; the
> kids all want some expensive toys: pianos, telescopes and the like.
>

Good novels pay well, but they do seem to enjoy painting more I find.


--
kat
>^..^<
!