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October 14, 2009 5:11:03 AM

Since the 5770 is at $160 and the 5850 is at $260, I'm thinking AMD/ATI may be releasing a 5830 in the middle eventually. Obviously if it was imminent it have been on that road map picture thats posted everywhere, but it may be something that they plan on releasing mid 2010 or something...

The performance gap between the 5770 and 5850 is just, well, gaping. A 5830 or 5790 (whatever they decide to call it) seems like an almost necessary product.

Thoughts?

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a b U Graphics card
October 14, 2009 5:16:31 AM

yeah I don't think they announced the 4770 or 4830 on the 4xxx series roadb map did they gotta leave some excitement right ?
a b U Graphics card
October 14, 2009 5:16:50 AM

Guru3d mentioned that they expect a 5770 with 256bit memory (5790 if you will). I have not heard anything else of one though...

I would expect there to be a few 5830's in order to clear out defective chips, not until they have a few of said chips built up mind you.

The gap is abnormally large this time around.. but prices will constrict given time, and I'm sure revamped products will hit eventually to fill some holes, only 4 cards from the entire line up out so far after all.
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October 14, 2009 5:22:58 AM

The width of the memory bus is determined by the controller on the GPU - is that right? If so, I would imagine there wouldn't be a 256-bit 5700 card, unless AMD purposely cut the 5770s width in half at launch, it's pretty unheard of for a launch unit to be crippled in that manner.

I can see them using defective cypress dies and dropping them down to 800 SPUs to match the 5770, then releasing a 5790 - but something tells me they'd rather have the 8 in 5830 there instead of the 5700 series.

Or maybe I'm just biased cause I bought a 4830 awhile back >.<
a b U Graphics card
October 14, 2009 5:58:33 AM

There are a few cases of 256 and 128 versions of similar cards launching at the same time. I can not think of any that added more to the same chip off the top of my head. It would not be as simple as slapping it on.. as I said only guru has mentioned it. Mind you.. it would not be unheard of to release the card that is on the cheep to produce for now, only to let the floor out of the price later (when they need to answer whatever the green team does) while at the same time releasing the refresh using a 256bit bus.

They have mentioned many times they will work to a 6 month refresh cycle.. adding a higher bus to the mid range card seems like the thing to improve (along with clocks).

There is certainly room in the lineup for a crippled cypress though. I'd expect the 5830 (unless they have remarkable yields and have no extra 'duds' to sell) to be in the 1200 'core' range.

At any rate.. none of these will appear until after the 5500/5600/5870x2's. Which will bring us close to the expected refresh time on the 5800's etc. anyway.
a c 365 U Graphics card
October 14, 2009 6:04:47 AM

Wait. They probably will not be released until all HD 4970 are sold out.

Plus, they may be GPUs that does not pass the specs for the HD 5850 so it takes time to built up stock. In other words, they will probably be failed HD 5850 GPU because of "defects" or variations in the manufacturing process. Rather than throw them away AMD will create the slower HD 5830 with them.
January 26, 2010 6:30:08 PM

HibyPrime said:
Since the 5770 is at $160 and the 5850 is at $260, I'm thinking AMD/ATI may be releasing a 5830 in the middle eventually. Obviously if it was imminent it have been on that road map picture thats posted everywhere, but it may be something that they plan on releasing mid 2010 or something...

The performance gap between the 5770 and 5850 is just, well, gaping. A 5830 or 5790 (whatever they decide to call it) seems like an almost necessary product.

Thoughts?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iqrm_2Gqu8&feature=rela...
January 29, 2010 10:03:32 AM

The biggest news by ATI to IT community is not the new catalyst v10.1 drivers, but a second postponement of 5830 by ATI. The unofficial reason for a 5830 that was initially slated for 25 January is PCB issues :-D.
That is so lame excuse :-D, the 5850 and 5830 are same card, same PCB, cooling, 256bit BUS, DDR5, same GPU just lover clocks of GPU core and memory, the biggest difference is the sticker :-D = 5830 is binned 5850. The 5830 cost AMD same as 5850 so they decided to postpone 5830 as long as possible at this stage for 3-4 weeks to make more money for ATI- AMD and its partners, 5850 earns higher margins for whole ATI distribution channel. 5830 delayed from 25 January to 5th
of February and at this stage around 16th February This is a result of lack of competition, NVIDIA hurry up with FERMI ;-D.

P.S 5830 specs:
Same PCB, cooling and connectivity as 5850, 625 Mhz GPU clock, 800 Mhz DDR5 memory, 1280 shaders, that are the slated specs for 5830 by ATI, when it finally becomes available it will be the best cost - value - performance single video card and crossfire solution ;-D. The difference ratio is the same as between 5870 and 5850 ;-D
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