$500 gaming pc help?

[Th3KaNgSt3R]

Well I saw this guide about a $500 gaming PC that was made back in April or so. Here are all the parts from the guide:

Videocard: PowerColor AX4870 512MB
CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz Wolfdale
Motherboard: MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775
Memory: Crucial 2GB DDR2 SDRAM 800
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-S223F 22X DVDR
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB
Case and Power Supply: Rosewill TU-155 II 500 Black

So I was wondering. Would this PC would be good enough to run almost all games right now? Because their might be new better parts since it's been a couple months since this guide was made. Also I don't need that good of an optical drive so I can just get a cheaper one and use the money other parts, what parts should I use that on?
Thanks in advance

P.S. It doesn't have to be $500

 

[Why_Me]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.245591 Combo Discount: -$15.00 Combo Price: $99.94
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Antec Basiq BP500U 500W Continuous Power ATX12V Version 2.01 Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

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GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Pentium E6300 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E6300 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127423 $119.99 ($109.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
MSI N250GTS-2D512-OCv2 GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Quad heatpipe cooling overclocked at 760MHz

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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

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G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 $29.99
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Total: $499.99 | $489.99 w/mail in rebate

 

[skora]

kangster, could you edit your first post to include the info listed in the link in my sig? Things like OS, monitor resolution, and overclocking questions are a big help.

Why me has a good setup for you there if you're going to OC. I'd choose a different PSU/case combo, because there's some here who have used the basiq power antec PSUs and don't have any faith in them. You could do worse for sure, but could do better also for the same price. I'll offer up some suggestions after getting some more info from you.

 

[Why_Me]

kangster, could you edit your first post to include the info listed in the link in my sig? Things like OS, monitor resolution, and overclocking questions are a big help.

Why me has a good setup for you there if you're going to OC. I'd choose a different PSU/case combo, because there's some here who have used the basiq power antec PSUs and don't have any faith in them. You could do worse for sure, but could do better also for the same price. I'll offer up some suggestions after getting some more info from you.

That Antec Basiq is the "version 2.01" and it's nothing like the first first version. In fact it's gotten great reviews.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/792/10 <--- Like this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004
Antec Basiq BP500U 500W Continuous Power ATX12V Version 2.01 Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

 

[skora]

Thanks for that link, its been bookmarked. Glad to see they went to a 3year warranty on it.

 

[shozzking]

pentium is not the way to go for any new computers for the past half year at least if not longer, go for an AMD phenom II processor. those are a great value for the price

 

[Why_Me]

pentium is not the way to go for any new computers for the past half year at least if not longer, go for an AMD phenom II processor. those are a great value for the price

Well then how about you post a Phenom build for under $500 on here.

 

[psycho sykes]

First sorry for DELAY!
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Hi,
Here’s a good one…

CPU: Specs. (2.8 GHz, BE, 6MB C, & Triple Core) $124 / $??? (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
AMD Phenom II X3 720

Main-Board: Specs. (AM3, 16GB DDR3, 790X/SB750, & x8 x8 CF) $125 / $110 (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
GigaByte MA790XT UD4P

GPU: Specs. (Stock FreQs, Heat pipe cooling design, ??, & ??) $155 / $125 (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
XFX HD4870-ZWFC Vanilla

Ram: Specs. (4GB, 1333MHz, CL9, & ??) $70 / $??? (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
G-Skill F3

HDD: Specs. (500GB, 7200RPM, 32MB C, & 500GB P) $55 / $??? (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
SAMSUNG SpinPoint F3

DVD Drive: Specs. (2MB C, 22x~8x DVD +/-RW, ??, & ??) $29 / $??? (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
LG DVD/CD +/-RW vanilla

Case: Specs. (ATX-mATX, 20.7" x 8.4" x 19", 3x 120mm fans, & ??) $70 / $??? (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GC

PSU: Specs. (550W, Modular, 2x +12V Rails, Active PFC & 80+) $75 / $50 (MIR/promo/combo etc.)
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY

Total: $646.00? w/o Taxes, MIRs or Shipping fees. -- $55 available MIRs to bring the price down to $595

I allowed my self to raise the limit to $600 (since you didn't say it's your absolute limit..) after MIRs if you can get them beside $30 (at most) for shipping and i presume no taxes....
This system is more future proof than the LGA775 system and will outperform it easily, You'll have the option for CF after updating the PSU without the need to upgrade the mobo and having to reassemble the system....

Sig.. Medo

 

[Why_Me]

Nice build Medo...but your over budget. ... The magic # is $500 USD

 

[psycho sykes]

Thanks But he only said what we think about April's $500 SBM so i thought this is not the ultimate limit for him.. He didn't say "STRICT $500 BUILD.. NO MORE!!"
Also for $90 more he will get -Better CPU -Better GPU -Better and more Ram along with a better mobo (AMD perspective) and Case..
I'll try and curse a $500- AMD build :lol:

 

[mindless728]

Well then how about you post a Phenom build for under $500 on here.

Swap your CPU/Mobo deal for this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.254104

its not phenom, but it is an AMD alternative

 

[skora]

I'd also advise against open boxing items for a new builder. They won't have a back log of cables, no I/O shield, just a bad idea.

 

[mindless728]

I'd also advise against open boxing items for a new builder. They won't have a back log of cables, no I/O shield, just a bad idea.

+1

 

[psycho sykes]

^^ I edited the links...

 

[Newf]

Well I saw this guide about a $500 gaming PC that was made back in April or so. Here are all the parts from the guide:

Videocard: PowerColor AX4870 512MB
CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz Wolfdale
Motherboard: MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775
Memory: Crucial 2GB DDR2 SDRAM 800
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-S223F 22X DVDR
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB
Case and Power Supply: Rosewill TU-155 II 500 Black

So I was wondering. Would this PC would be good enough to run almost all games right now? Because their might be new better parts since it's been a couple months since this guide was made. Also I don't need that good of an optical drive so I can just get a cheaper one and use the money other parts, what parts should I use that on?
Thanks in advance

Consider this build:

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz AM3 95W $99+0 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H 785G mATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
Corsair 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 TWIN2X4096-6400C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
Combo price = $125+Ship 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.250716

XFX HD-487A-ZWFC 4870 1GB GDDR5 $145-20+0 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436

Samsung HD502HJ 500GB 7200/16MB SATA $50+0 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Samsung Black SATA DVD Burner $32+Ship 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151187

BFG Tech GS-550 ATX/EPS $50+0 9/30/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702010

HEC 6K28BB8F Black mATX Mini Tower Case $32+Ship
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121003

Total w/rebates = $513 + some shipping.

 

[psycho sykes]

^ Not good PSU..

 

[Newf]

^ Not good PSU..

But better than you'll find in most $500 builds. It will work just fine.
You may not have heard of the brand before, but BFG tech supplies are OK.
Way better than the Rosewill....

 

[shortstuff_mt]

It's not the BFG name that makes it a poor PSU. The little red voltage switch on the back of the PSU indicates it doesn't have active PFC. The BFG LS series are quality units, but I would avoid that POS GS model.

This unit would power that system for a good price:

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail $59.99 - $20 MIR

 

[psycho sykes]

It's not way better than Rosewill it's 1,000,000 better than Rosewill!
But there's no indication that it has active PFC nor a 80+ certification (even if in the secs it says 80~85%) but no certification..

And in most tests the Phenom II X3 beats the Athlon II X4..

A bit off topic (well, a lot!) But what happens to you guys when you go to "new system build" through the US site? Does it take you to the UK site or what? Sorry..

 

[Newf]

It's not the BFG name that makes it a poor PSU. The little red voltage switch on the back of the PSU indicates it doesn't have active PFC. The BFG LS series are quality units, but I would avoid that POS GS model.

This unit would power that system for a good price:

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail $59.99 - $20 MIR

I don't see the rebate, but I agree that this psu is a better choice. It seems we have lost the OP though.

 

[Newf]

It's not way better than Rosewill it's 1,000,000 better than Rosewill!
But there's no indication that it has active PFC nor a 80+ certification (even if in the secs it says 80~85%) but no certification..

And in most tests the Phenom II X3 beats the Athlon II X4..

A bit off topic (well, a lot!) But what happens to you guys when you go to "new system build" through the US site? Does it take you to the UK site or what? Sorry..

The Phenom X3 you listed costs more than the Propos, so it should somehow be better...
The driving force here is the 4870 card. Everything else takes 2nd tit in a $500 system.

 

[psycho sykes]

Sorry but i didn't catch that
What do you mean The Phenom X3 you listed costs more than the Propos, so it should somehow be better... ??
And yes only 1 post doesn't look good But he didn't ask for top notch

 

[obsidian86]

Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 $75 $65 amir
CPU AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz AM3 80W $90
Video Card SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 512MB $135
RAM Kingston 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) DDR2 800 MHz PC2-6400 $41
Hard Drive samsung f3 500gb$50
Optical Drive SAMSUNG SATA 22X DVD Burner $26
Case Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case$60
Power Supply Antec Basiq BP500U 500W Continuous$50

$527 $517 amir

 

[hlbuchanan]

I'd also advise against open boxing items for a new builder. They won't have a back log of cables, no I/O shield, just a bad idea.

Sorry, what is open boxing?

 

[skora]

There was a link to an open box item, but it was replaced with the retail version instead.

When Newegg gets returns that can't be sold as new but working, they will sell them as open box for a discount. But they don't use the original packaging, which also means they don't include the cables, manuals, or any other part that is really needed for a build. So unless you're an experienced builder with extra cables laying around and can live without the back of the computer being properly covered, don't buy an open box item. They are always listed at the bottom of the items list on newegg.