APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Less than 7 days.
BUDGET RANGE: Flexible. ~$2000 US
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, HTPC, A/V Encoding, Interwebs, etc.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (2.1), OS (Win7 RC), thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Best deal > specific e-tailer. Have used Newegg in the past, no problems.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US
PARTS PREFERENCES: LGA 1366. Quality parts > lowest price.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes -> 3.6 - 4.0gz, air-cooled.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes (but not immediately).
MONITOR RESOLUTION(S): 1680x1050 & 1280x1024 - may also connect to 58" 1080p plasma tv.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking to build a "future-proof" foundation now, and planning to purchase/upgrade some parts in the future (holiday '09 or thereafter).
Future upgrades may include additional RAM, 3x 1920x1200 monitors, SSD boot drive, second (third and fourth?) video cards in SLI or X-Fire, 5.1 or 7.1 speaker system, Gulftown hexcore, additional HDs for storage, Blu-Ray burner, artificial intelligence, etc.
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CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
I would obviously prefer D0 stepping, but it does not appear that Newegg guarantees such an offering. I hope to OC to the 3.6-4.0gz range with an after-market air cooler and a case with excellent air flow. Hence, the reduced voltage/heat from the D0 would be advantageous.
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CASE:
ANTEC Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043
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COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Both cases provide excellent air-flow and are rather noisy. I prefer the look of the 1200 over the 932, and am willing to part with an extra $20 for that preference. However, I have seen the 932 repeatedly recommended in these forums and am curious as to whether there is a specific reason beyond price difference and marginally better air-flow. Both appear to have similar dimensions and specs. Also, the 1200 has air filters which is nice since I'm a smoker.
Edit: Ordered the 1200 from newegg for $160, free shipping.
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MOTHERBOARD: Undecided.
This is always my most most difficult decision for a build. I've chosen LGA 1366 for "future-proof" considerations, and would like a motherboard to be somewhat flexible for adjusting to future needs. 3 PCIe slots is a minimum, 4 would be better - even though I'm only planning to start with a single video card. Support for SLI & Crossfire required. 6 RAM slots is preferred to 3. A multitude of connection options would also seemingly be helpful to adapt for the future - plus enough fan connectors to manage the 1200's molex connected case fans.
I've read many good things about the affordable AsRock x58 Extreme. At that price point, MSI's x58 Pro-E and Gigabyte's x58-UR3R are similar offerings. Then near the upper tier of mobo's sits the always popular Asus P6T Deluxe V2. The flavor of the month at Newegg is the EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR (not sure if has Xfire support).
From what I (noobish) can tell the AsRock Extreme is little different from the Asus P6T Deluxe V2 in basic specs, but the price is significantly different. Please educate this rube on the differences between the mid-tier and premium LGA 1366 mobo's and advise accordingly
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PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V - 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
Modular is a requirement. I was looking for an 80+ Gold rated psu because I plan to keep this for years to come and would expect to make up any price difference of a premium rated psu in power savings over the years. However, this Corsair is 80+Silver rated, has 6 PCIe power cables, a multitude of sata cables, and is less pricey than the OCZ Z-series 80+Gold modular psu's (which are limited to 4 PCIe cables). My only question is as to whether it would be enough to power a 3rd and/or 4th video card + potentially a Gulftown hexcore cpu.
If not, the 1000w offering from Corsair is currently at $200 on Newegg when including mail-in rebates (deal!), and is otherwise similar, except that it only has the bare 80+ certification and a shorter warranty.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007
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RAM: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381
I see this set recommended frequently, and the 7-7-7-24 ratings are decent. Are there better rated offerings around this price point? I don't see the point of spending $210 for the Corsair Dominator kit that is 8-8-8-24. Why the price difference? Should I save a few dollars and get the OCZ Gold kit instead?
If I purchase/install additional RAM in the future, what sort of additional considerations do I need to make for this initial set of 3x2gb RAM?
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CPU COOLER: Probably one of the following: DarkKnight, Scythe Mugen, CM V8, Typhoon III.
Any recommendations? Obviously, I need something that will fit inside my case, and provide ample cpu cooling. Does anyone have a handy link to a comparison specs?
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GPU: Tough call right now. I'd prefer to get 1 card now and another down the road. The 5870 is very tempting because with DX11 support, it should be somewhat "future-proof", plus it can run 3 displays (a set up that I plan to implement in the future). But its also 11" long, and I'm concerned as to how it would fit in the 1200 case behind a filled drive bay.
Otherwise, the 5850 might be a better overall solution. Its shorter (~9.5") and offers the same 'future-proof' features of its big brother. But it hasn't released yet --> does anyone have an idea of when it should be available? I did catch Tom's benchmark review this morning. Impressive performance at ~$260 for a single card/gpu solution.
The alternative would be to grab a pair of 4850 1gb's (or 260's) and upgrade in a year or two.
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HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
The F3 seems to be one of the quicker conventional drives at the moment. I might grab one of these to start and use as a relatively fast system drive until SSD pricing falls a bit further (and the controller technology is improved).
The Intel X25-M and OCZ Vertex SSD lines seem to get the best reviews (apart from the very high-end products).
In the future I may grab 2 or 3 WD Caviar Black 2TB drives for storage -- they also have impressive specs for conventional drive speeds, but currently they seem to be a little over-priced.
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OPTICAL: They all seem about the same to me. Dozens of seemingly identical offerings at $25-$35. If anyone has a specific recommendation, let me know. If possible, something bundled with some burning software would be great.
EDIT: Found this HP dvd burner, retail for the price of oem. Comes with some burning software & a sata cable.
HP Black 24X Multiformat DVD Burner w. LightScribe Support - Retail - $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041
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That's about it.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.
BUDGET RANGE: Flexible. ~$2000 US
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, HTPC, A/V Encoding, Interwebs, etc.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (2.1), OS (Win7 RC), thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Best deal > specific e-tailer. Have used Newegg in the past, no problems.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US
PARTS PREFERENCES: LGA 1366. Quality parts > lowest price.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes -> 3.6 - 4.0gz, air-cooled.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes (but not immediately).
MONITOR RESOLUTION(S): 1680x1050 & 1280x1024 - may also connect to 58" 1080p plasma tv.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking to build a "future-proof" foundation now, and planning to purchase/upgrade some parts in the future (holiday '09 or thereafter).
Future upgrades may include additional RAM, 3x 1920x1200 monitors, SSD boot drive, second (third and fourth?) video cards in SLI or X-Fire, 5.1 or 7.1 speaker system, Gulftown hexcore, additional HDs for storage, Blu-Ray burner, artificial intelligence, etc.
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CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
I would obviously prefer D0 stepping, but it does not appear that Newegg guarantees such an offering. I hope to OC to the 3.6-4.0gz range with an after-market air cooler and a case with excellent air flow. Hence, the reduced voltage/heat from the D0 would be advantageous.
###################################################
CASE:
ANTEC Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043
-OR-
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Both cases provide excellent air-flow and are rather noisy. I prefer the look of the 1200 over the 932, and am willing to part with an extra $20 for that preference. However, I have seen the 932 repeatedly recommended in these forums and am curious as to whether there is a specific reason beyond price difference and marginally better air-flow. Both appear to have similar dimensions and specs. Also, the 1200 has air filters which is nice since I'm a smoker.
Edit: Ordered the 1200 from newegg for $160, free shipping.
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MOTHERBOARD: Undecided.
This is always my most most difficult decision for a build. I've chosen LGA 1366 for "future-proof" considerations, and would like a motherboard to be somewhat flexible for adjusting to future needs. 3 PCIe slots is a minimum, 4 would be better - even though I'm only planning to start with a single video card. Support for SLI & Crossfire required. 6 RAM slots is preferred to 3. A multitude of connection options would also seemingly be helpful to adapt for the future - plus enough fan connectors to manage the 1200's molex connected case fans.
I've read many good things about the affordable AsRock x58 Extreme. At that price point, MSI's x58 Pro-E and Gigabyte's x58-UR3R are similar offerings. Then near the upper tier of mobo's sits the always popular Asus P6T Deluxe V2. The flavor of the month at Newegg is the EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR (not sure if has Xfire support).
From what I (noobish) can tell the AsRock Extreme is little different from the Asus P6T Deluxe V2 in basic specs, but the price is significantly different. Please educate this rube on the differences between the mid-tier and premium LGA 1366 mobo's and advise accordingly
###################################################
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V - 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
Modular is a requirement. I was looking for an 80+ Gold rated psu because I plan to keep this for years to come and would expect to make up any price difference of a premium rated psu in power savings over the years. However, this Corsair is 80+Silver rated, has 6 PCIe power cables, a multitude of sata cables, and is less pricey than the OCZ Z-series 80+Gold modular psu's (which are limited to 4 PCIe cables). My only question is as to whether it would be enough to power a 3rd and/or 4th video card + potentially a Gulftown hexcore cpu.
If not, the 1000w offering from Corsair is currently at $200 on Newegg when including mail-in rebates (deal!), and is otherwise similar, except that it only has the bare 80+ certification and a shorter warranty.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007
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RAM: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381
I see this set recommended frequently, and the 7-7-7-24 ratings are decent. Are there better rated offerings around this price point? I don't see the point of spending $210 for the Corsair Dominator kit that is 8-8-8-24. Why the price difference? Should I save a few dollars and get the OCZ Gold kit instead?
If I purchase/install additional RAM in the future, what sort of additional considerations do I need to make for this initial set of 3x2gb RAM?
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CPU COOLER: Probably one of the following: DarkKnight, Scythe Mugen, CM V8, Typhoon III.
Any recommendations? Obviously, I need something that will fit inside my case, and provide ample cpu cooling. Does anyone have a handy link to a comparison specs?
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GPU: Tough call right now. I'd prefer to get 1 card now and another down the road. The 5870 is very tempting because with DX11 support, it should be somewhat "future-proof", plus it can run 3 displays (a set up that I plan to implement in the future). But its also 11" long, and I'm concerned as to how it would fit in the 1200 case behind a filled drive bay.
Otherwise, the 5850 might be a better overall solution. Its shorter (~9.5") and offers the same 'future-proof' features of its big brother. But it hasn't released yet --> does anyone have an idea of when it should be available? I did catch Tom's benchmark review this morning. Impressive performance at ~$260 for a single card/gpu solution.
The alternative would be to grab a pair of 4850 1gb's (or 260's) and upgrade in a year or two.
###################################################
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
The F3 seems to be one of the quicker conventional drives at the moment. I might grab one of these to start and use as a relatively fast system drive until SSD pricing falls a bit further (and the controller technology is improved).
The Intel X25-M and OCZ Vertex SSD lines seem to get the best reviews (apart from the very high-end products).
In the future I may grab 2 or 3 WD Caviar Black 2TB drives for storage -- they also have impressive specs for conventional drive speeds, but currently they seem to be a little over-priced.
###################################################
OPTICAL: They all seem about the same to me. Dozens of seemingly identical offerings at $25-$35. If anyone has a specific recommendation, let me know. If possible, something bundled with some burning software would be great.
EDIT: Found this HP dvd burner, retail for the price of oem. Comes with some burning software & a sata cable.
HP Black 24X Multiformat DVD Burner w. LightScribe Support - Retail - $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041
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That's about it.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.