Putting an end to FERMI hopes

http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/ [...] epaper.pdf

If anybody finds only ONE word that has a SLIGHT reference to gaming performances, then please speak up.
Sorry nvidia boys, your company dropped you dead. =/
Yup, life sure is sad...

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3272/nvidiafail.jpg

Yeah I suck at photo shopping SO WHAT?

Anyway fail...How bout you drop the hope and just buy that HD5870 your craving for deep inside?

This thread is pointless.

You haven't proved anything though. You linked a whitepaper and are saying that because it doesn't mention games that Fermi sucks at games?

Why can't posters just be a wee bit patient. Nvidia has always played its cards close to their vest. Personally, I care not one way or the other, but why try to stir up a flame war when no one knows what this platform will really bring to the table?

This is the sole purpose of forums!

Joke's aside, I can hardly imagine that they would hide it's gaming performance THIS much... I mean the actual computing performances have been leaked out already, they even had a presentation for this.
Now why do they never mention gaming? Not a single time, not ONE did I ever saw a FERMI gaming related "demo" or whatsoever.
Well when this product is under Products>High performance computing on nvidia's website, and not under GeForce like the rest of all the nvidia's till now...You should really start asking questions.

The ACTUAL company rather place this card in computing....I don't know what are nvidia fanboys waiting over...

And quite frankly, the problem with this card will be it's obsolete pricing.
Cmon, a GPU capable of running 8x faster then any CPU.
Now the BEST Cpu is sold at 1000$.
Now, not only does this beast run 8 times faster, but it also has a graphic support.
Wow, how much will this be??? The actual production price should be around the 800$.....
Dunno for you, but it looks like nvidia plainly abandoned the high performance/mid range gaming market (FOR NOW THAT IS.)
They may intend to create a niche in the supercomputer market, and come bak, but for now, I see only COMPUTING, no actual gaming.

It amazes me the amount of posters who say they are waiting fro Fermi to come out because they expect it to beat the HD5870 yet they are not aware of the facts or don't wish to read the facts because they don't want it to be true as Nvidia has been marketing this chip as a GPGPU since it was first announced. However you rant about 'Nvidia fail' etc doesn't give you any credibility, what your saying is true and quite frankly needed to be said but you could have worded it a lot better.

True that mybad...
It's just that I had some kind of extreme arguing with a massive nvidia fanboy on this forum a few hours ago, and it left me with some kind of salty taste..I guess being mean over nvidia fanboys was a bit over the edge..
But seriously, This thread will be flammed with nonsens as soon as "they" wake up..

he is 17 i can understand him

Because I'm not a nazi and closing every thread that I think is pointless (unless it is clearly pointless, like the 3-word posts that sometimes pop up) is hardly impartial or allowing for free speech. Having said that, I will still call it pointless if I think it is

not a nazi, now thats what i call as being in denial,or where you being sarcastic?

Fermi, Fermi, Fermi ....
Come on. Are we going to do this for another six months or so? Everybody buy a 58xx or 57xx and be done with it. Any frame above 60-70 will not be noticed and will not make your noob @sses better at any game.

Lol.

OP does have a point, Nvidia seem almost embarrassed by their gaming past dont they? Could that be because they need to be seen as all grown-up and non geeky to their real target market? They sure aren't forthcoming with information on how well it will game, and talking down dx11 just makes all of us think they haven't even tried.

Well it's not I lack evidence...
It's just that nvidia didnt release any.
WAHAHA!

I made my own logical speculation, and im pretty sure that's the actual situation...
But yea, I have no real proofs since none is out yet.
Only proof is that whitepaper proving that FERMI wasnt even made for gaming till now.
It might have a potential, but it's purpose isnt gaming. I don't think it's worth arguing over this..

Find me a white paper that has any reference "gaming performance" as you speak.

I think the benchmarks are there for that.

Nvidia is going through what 3DFX had gone through in 1999 and early 2000 but won't be entirely wiped out while Intel will look like crap but will eventually get better with it's gpu card. AMD will eventually become profitable through it's graphics department. 2004~2008 was Nvidia's golden era and it's SLI and cuda will be regarded as it's lasting achievements.

Chill out Ati fanboy. When you have proper backing to your stupidity then come back.

The reason you started the thread is due to Nvidia not releasing any specs or benchmarks for their next-gen cards.

So you stated :Sorry nvidia boys, your company dropped you dead. =/
Yup, life sure is sad... <--- funny

So what is your point? Wait till the cards are released and THEN you can brag, complain, flame or just drool cause to tell ya the truth, once those cards come out many of the ATI fanboys will go back into their old threads and start deleting their posts... There are too many peeps here on toms talking smack about a GPU that has yet to be released, so it makes no sense to assume something when you have no idea what to expect.....

But the thing is I AM SPECULATING.
How many times did I post it on the thread? read again youl see!

I can't speculate? That was just my personal "answer" to that dude that was been b1tching at AMD because the HD5770 is the same price as HD4870 and kept saying that GTX300 will rule them all. All but a joke. Take it easy!

i think there is many people who dont believe that fermi even exist so any disscusion is pointless...when real benchmarks appears what then they will say...?.. its fake

Exactly what I was thinking and not saying.

Even a mere 10FPS or 20 better over the HD5870 will be crushed by the HD5900.
Unless we see an INCREDIBLE 40fps advantage that would probably be one of the biggest advantage in history of GPU gaming, Fermi is just what is already here, and that nvidia fanboys refuse to buy by pure fanboyism.

look at the design of fermi, these guys realise that the gaming market where you can get away with selling two chips on the same board for maybe $700 for the water cooled version is not as important as the segment where
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133253

that nonsense is ok for a single chip, and the real customers they are targeting with fermi arent really interested in 3d mark vantage scores or how well it plays crysis at 2560x1600.

Seriously people still can't understand that:
It's not that FailMI won't be good in gaming,
it's just ISNT MADE FOR GAMING.

NEVER.
they NEVER. mentioned A SINGLE TIME. GAMING.
In no interview, No press release, NO. Where.
MAYBE they are making a GTX300 serie that WILL be made for gaming

BUT it's NOT the FERMI every nvidia fanboy is proud off.
It will be part of the GTX300, probably a reduced version of Fermi with less cuda cores,no ecc and things like that, But the thing is still that, You can't brag about FERMI since you will NEVER use it.
Period.

Thats exactly what I speculated.
This super special awesome fermi is just to create a niche from the possible threat of larrabee in the HPC market.
They probably have another card from the GTX300 serie that will match the current HD5800 serie.

But If they were able to provide us with something NEW instead of what's ALREADY here, they wouldv started braggin about it AGES ago. And I still see no sign of possible gaming improvement. Nowhere.
And Nvidia boys still find the courage to troll about possible leaked performances...
I must give them +9000 for that.

for all that fermi is supposed to be i cant see it reaching the res that the 5870 can with eye fidelity, just another big chip eating away @ nvidia's revenue

Nvidia Exec: "Intel is going to take some of our market share, what should we do?
Consultant: "Nintendo?"
Nvidia Exec: "Genius!"

And now Nvidia makes tons of money off what is sure to be a great business deal with Nintendo.

Relax everyone, Nvidia just wants to protect itself in case larrabee takes over the low-mid end of the market.

Also, think about how few people buy every new gen of high end GFX cards. I'm sure they looked at the numbers and realized they could probably make just as much over the long-term putting a short term focus on Fermi. I know most of my friends who did build pc's (even at a top 25 tech based uni ony 1/20 or so did) only upgraded every 2-3 years unless something amazing was released. Heck, I'm still running on a couple 8800gts from a couple years ago doing fine.

The geforce cards will come, just give it time.