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Antec 1200 Case: Hard drives won't fit with fan shroud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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October 1, 2009 2:21:37 AM

Antec 1200 case, fresh out of the box. Two Western Digital 1TB hard drives, fresh out of the anti-static bags.

Installing the hard drives into the alotted space was a cinch, however the fan shroud won't go back on the hard drive assembly. The hard drives stick out the back about a 1/4" too much, but are seemingly as far forward as they can go.

Anyone else encountered this problem? Cut the shroud? Send the case back? Hit it with a hammer?

Thanks!!!!

October 2, 2009 2:53:01 PM

I realized that also...just built a system with the 1200. I added 4 HDD's, but started at the bottom and I'm working my way up...I haven't gotten to that section of adding HDD's yet. I would suggest moving your HDD's to a different location...you've got plenty to choose from.

Also, just to confirm...you are talking about the fan INSIDE the case in the 3rd drive section (from bottom, 2nd from top)???
October 2, 2009 5:22:29 PM

Snowgoer1998 is correct. It will not fit in the 3 slot cage with the additional fan shroud. I recommend you put the hard drive in the lower 3 slot cage and leave the middle slot of that cage empty. The other two 3 slot cages should be used just for air flow to your GPU and CPU, unless you have more than 3 hard drives, of course.

Note: the shourd can be removed... without a hammer!! :D 
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October 2, 2009 10:42:29 PM

Thanks for the replies, guys.

For some stupid reason, the case didn't come with a manual. I printed one off the Antec website, however. The manual says, plainly, that the inside optional fan DON'T fit with hard drives installed. Dumb!!! So, the fan has to go to a cage that doesn't have hard drives installed in it. Unless, if a person were to have only one hard drive, it could go in the middle slot and the inside optional fan would still fit over it. But who has just ONE hard drive? Haha

The fan shroud only lacks so little to be able to fit! I wound up moving the optional fan down to the middle cage and have my two 1TB hard drives in the top cage.

My HD 5870 is supposed to be here tonight. Just got motherboard installed into case and I'm startin' to wonder if my video card'll fit with the inside optional fan so close to the motherboard. If my card don't fit, I'm gonna' cut up the fan shroud a little bit to make it fit over my hard drives...I think. lol Course, I reckon I can move it to the bottom cage, but there'll be roughly two inches between power supply fan and the inside optional fan. Will they be workin' against each other? No sense in that...can't everyone just get along? :-P

Thanks again, ya'll
October 3, 2009 1:41:05 AM

The inside option fan would pushing cold air from the front into the case. The PSU will be pulling case air and expelling it out the back. Its good flow.

You may want to consider putting your DVD in the bottom slot to get it out of the way and put the cage with the shroud and fan at the top to have a straight tunnel of cold air from the front over the RAM chips, to the CPU and out the back/top.

Those cages can be moved around, they dont have to all sit at the bottom right next to each other. Moving them some can tweak the airflow to give you better cooling.
October 4, 2009 1:52:51 AM

I think I finally got it set up the way I want it. I wound up simply swapping the top removable cage with my two 1TB hard drives in it with the middle removable cage that had the fan on it.

Now, my BD-ROM is at the very top slot, my top cage has the optional fan on it, which blows directly onto the RAM and CPU, my middle cage has the two 1TB hard drives, and the bottom cage is just the front, factory cage fan. I realized later after I posted that the PSU fan blows all the way through the PSU out the back of the case. Duh!! The optional fan being right in front of the the PSU probably would've helped push that much more air through, but I think having it placed in front of the RAM is a more wise spot for extra cooling.

I THINK everything is now wired up. There are a ton, it seems like, of four-pin connectors from the PSU that don't appear go to anything. Are they for a bunch of things that I don't have? I think all that's left, wiring-wise according to my motherboard manual, is to clean it all up and work on the routing a bit more... Excitin'!!

Thanks
October 4, 2009 2:10:45 AM

Here is an example of my Antec 1200 build, if it helps for flow of wires. I went with the extra fan in the middle to add more cooling to my GPU's and my hard drive in the bottom slot.

October 4, 2009 2:23:15 AM

Looks great!

I see you have some thing(s) wired up to the six pin female connectors on the GPUs. Can I get power from there? My BD-ROM is wired into the drive itself, but the other end doesn't have anywhere to plug in to. At least nowhere on the motherboard... Could I hook it to the GPU?

Also, how do you have all of your case fans wired? I wired two fans together (three times...six fans, in other words) and then to three plugs from the PSU. It's one of the cables that have three different female plug ins on the same stretch of wire that the two-in-one fans with male end are hooked into. Should that be fine? Does that make any sense at all? lol

Do you have the optional side panel fan? I also have the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme and also have the side panel case fan. The dang case fan hits the CPU cooler!! I think I'll be able to trim some off the case fan (one of the ears that has a screw hole on it) to make the panel go on with everything still hook up good to go.

Thanks!!!
October 4, 2009 6:00:39 AM

The 6 pin power connectors on the GPUs are extra power for the GPUs. Your system wont run if you dont have PCIE power cables from the PSU plugged into them.

The motherboard should have the 24pin connector and an 8 pin connector from the PSU.

All of the 4 pin molex power connectors are for CDs, DVDs, outdated HDDs, case fans, etc.

What model of PSU do you have?
October 4, 2009 11:55:00 AM

I've got both the 24-pin and 8-pin from the PSU hooked into the motherboard. Only one 24-pin and one 8-pin connector on the motherboard. I like the easy ones. :na: 

So the four-pin connectors are called Molex? Yes, I'm a newb.!

PSU is Antec CP-850 850W.

Here is my build:

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 761345-75024-0 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec CP-850 850W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme 1366 RT CPU Cooler
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/thermalright-ultra-120-e...

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Full - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 6X BD-ROM 2MB Cache Blu-ray Burner Model BH08LS20 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON SK-1688U/B Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital My Book Essential WDH1U10000N 1TB USB 2.0 External Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG W2753V-PF Black 27" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 400 cd/m2 50000:1 w/ Smart Package
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks a lot!!!

October 4, 2009 12:28:20 PM

dndhatcher is correct that you can not hook anything else up to the 6+2pin or 6pin connectors for you GPU's. They are specifically for use of your GPU's. You will have two other sets of connectors... Molex (4pin) and SATA (Straight Line). You will connect your case fans or IDE devices to these. Your hard drive and SATA devices will connect to the SATA power connectors. Here is what cables your case will use.

  • 1 - 20+4 pin
  • 1 - 8 pin
  • 1 - 6+2 pin
  • 1 - 6 pin or another 6+2 pin without the 2 pin connected
  • 3 - SATA connectors (1 for each hard drive (2 total) and 1 for the DVD) If you have two sets of 3 SATA connectors, I recommend using one for your HDD's and one for your DVD. This will help with you cable management.
  • 2 or 3 - Molex connectors for your case fans. I say two or three since you can plug multiple fans into one Molex plug, so you can use as many as you need for good cable management.

    Edit: I do have the option side fan as well. I have no issues with my HSF and the side fan. I guess the TRUE is bigger than the Dark Knight. You should be fine trimming a little off the fan to make it work. Just be careful not to break it... LOL!! :D 
    October 4, 2009 3:49:17 PM

    Your CP850 has some modular (unplugable) cables, you should not plug those in to the PSU unless you specifically need them. Keeps from having tons of extra cables inside the computer blocking airflow and collecting dust.

    The 5870 needs two 6pin PCIE power cables, not a 6 and an 8.
    October 4, 2009 7:27:39 PM

    Wow! That helped out TONS! Thanks!

    I think I have everything wired up correctly, finally.

    I realize now that the HD 5870 needs those four + two connectors for power or whatever it needs it for. I thought pluggin' it into the PCI-E was all it needed and the two six-pin slots were for somethin' I didn't have. I now have two four-pin connectors with the little bonus two-pin job in both slots. I have the power switch, reset switch, and all that plugged into the little white adapter thing, but have yet to put it to the board.

    Yeah, my PSU has a couple female connections next to the bundle of non removable wires. I don't have anything plugged into them. My motherboard manual said that they are only used as needed, and I don't need 'em far as I can tell.

    Everything has come with a manual except my Antec 1200 case. The only manual really worth a darn is the motherboard manual. Everything else is mostly written in foreign with only a few pages that mean anything (very little, usually) to me.

    I just may get to where I can fire up the computer today and get into the system bios and have a look-see. Hopefully I won't mess anything up! lol!

    Thanks again for everyone's (continued) help. There's still quite a bit more to accomplish. Stay tuned!

    Tom's Hardware and its great members have quite literally built this computer. Haha
    !