Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Upgrate: get new CPU or improve this one ?

Tags:
Last response: in CPUs
Share
December 20, 2009 10:47:46 PM

i currently have Asus M2N-MX SE plus / AMD Athlon X2 5000+ 2.6 Ghz / 9600 GT DDR2 512 / x2 1 GB ram 667 KingMax
should i get new CPU
http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/procesoare/procesor-...
or overclock this one and add it a cooler like
http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/cooler/cooler-zalman...
btw the temp of my specs are
http://i47.tinypic.com/213kpd2.jpg (some programs running but its nearly normal)

I'd appreciate the help.

More about : upgrate cpu improve

a b à CPUs
December 20, 2009 11:24:25 PM

that depends what do you want to do with this?
a b à CPUs
December 20, 2009 11:58:16 PM

That 5000+ is useless anymore, but we can still overclock.

This cooler is much, much, much better and cheaper:
http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/cooler/cooler-proces...

Get this processor with it and you will have the best of both worlds for the same price:
http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/procesoare/procesor-...

Note that both this and the processor you listed use the AM3 socket and your motherboard uses an AM2+ socket which may limit your overclocking and performance, but likely not by much.

BEFORE YOU OVERCLOCK, please make sure to read up and read the guides in the overclocking section and online. After wards post any questions you have.

Hope this helps.
Related resources
December 21, 2009 12:08:08 AM

Well depends on what he uses his PC for. I have a PC in my house (not my primary one) that I use regularly and is powered by an AMD Athlon 64 2800+.
a b à CPUs
December 21, 2009 12:21:23 AM

That is nice but I assume he is finding his processor slow since he is considering upgrading it. The 5000+ really doesn't do well by today's standards for much. I have a high end business laptop that has a nice processor in it and that processor benchmarks just ahead of the 5000+ and I find it limiting in a lot of ways, like flash movie viewing and messing with media files. These are things I am forced to do on my desktop, which I can because I have a desktop. For desktop use, and for the main computer, I am assuming, a 5000+ could be very limiting.
December 21, 2009 7:50:03 AM

hi, thanks for reply, yea i forgot to mention that i may have to change my mob cause of AM3, and i use my PC for gaming, and i thought i needed a good cooler if i want to overclock it so can someone please suggest me a good cooler for overclocking a amd 5000+ ? or a new motherboard and a cpu around 100$ (for gaming)
ty.
a b à CPUs
December 21, 2009 9:46:11 AM

To be honest, your motherboard will do just fine as it is. AM3 CPUs work on AM2+ motherboards nicely.
December 21, 2009 11:08:53 AM

Upgrade to a phenom ii 955 or 965 125watt, depending on your budget. Get a good aftermarket cooler (check frosty tech for good coolers) and there's no need to change your motherboard. With whatever cpu you choose and a good after market cooler, you will be able to overclock to around 3.8ghz with just a simple multiplyer increase.
December 21, 2009 12:41:09 PM

With your mobo u have little choices on that shop with 100 $ budget. U have to take count on this, M2n-MX SE supports am2 only and M2n-MX SE PLUS supports am2 and am2+ 65nm phenoms up to the 9950X4.

With that board u will not be able to overclock a hi TDP Quad Phenom, so get a good speed ? stock Phenom X4 until u have the money to buy a different board for further overclocking.
Some suggestions:

http://www.sigmanet.ro/AMD-Phenom-Quad-core-9850--id106...
http://www.sigmanet.ro/AMD-Phenom-X4-9950-Box--id18203

Bafta!
December 21, 2009 12:52:06 PM

i think u guys understood it wrong, i want to improve my cpu, and i asked if i should overclock this one that i have or get a new one around 100$ not overclocking the new one, could it be possible to overclock this one that i have and get a good cooler ?
December 21, 2009 4:31:24 PM

Simple answer? Yes, you can overclock your current cpu to 3ghz, if ur lucky 3.2ghz with of course a good cooler.

You said your a gamer, so with the above you will be able to play most old games on high, some on very high (depending on your graphics card). However for current games, you'd be lookin at medium and some high settings. For future games, regardless of what graphics card you get, even with the overclock to 3.2ghz, you'd be set at medium.

Though a future graphics card will help, that cpu will be the cause of bottleneck.

If that motherboard doesnt support any new am3 cpu's like the 955 or 965, it's not worth wasting your money on a new cpu now.

I suggest you save enough to buy a new am3 board, a decent phenom ii (965 125watt is brilliant at 3.4ghz stock) and new graphics card. Meanwhile, buy a good cooler and overclock your current cpu to atleast 3ghz.
December 21, 2009 4:33:42 PM

and which cooler do you guys suggest i should buy
December 21, 2009 4:38:06 PM

Wow, just read your ram and graphics card. They'r pretty basic.

Buy a decent cooler and overclock to 3ghz or above (if your lucky).

Key word: save, for future games your comp is pretty much at the bottom end, in every aspect. Not sure what psu you have, but i recommend you buy new board, ram, graphics and cpu when you can afford it.
December 21, 2009 4:41:25 PM

decent, good, best, and that cooler may be ?
heard zalman is good, should i get it ?
December 21, 2009 4:54:18 PM

Boxa786 said:
Upgrade to a phenom ii 955 or 965 125watt, depending on your budget. Get a good aftermarket cooler (check frosty tech for good coolers) and there's no need to change your motherboard. With whatever cpu you choose and a good after market cooler, you will be able to overclock to around 3.8ghz with just a simple multiplyer increase.


Banutu said:
decent, good, best, and that cooler may be ?
heard zalman is good, should i get it ?



http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

Scroll to the bottom for AMD coolers, I wouldnt recommend anything more than $20-$30. With that being an old cpu and you saving for future purchases, there's no need to buy big now.

If you want to get the best now and use later, there is always the chance that other better coolers will be out by then, so I say you buy average but quality now and leave it with your motherboard when you'r ready to buy new tech.

Personally, I think I've got the Dark knight which came with a bracket to ount the cooler so that the air is pushed out the back.
December 21, 2009 4:58:36 PM

nah i just want a cheap and good cooler that can handle the overclock to 3.0 =)
still dont know which one to get, could you be more specific and suggest me one from this link http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/cooler/
ty
December 24, 2009 1:29:32 PM

Its not in english so I cant read much there, but Im afraid you will have to do some work here yourself. Research it, did you even check the frostytech link i posted?

Go to the amd section of my link, find a cooler you like, search its name/make and model on an online retailer. Not happy with the price or it cant be found? go back to frostytech link and choose another, continue this till you have the best coolers you would like.

Come back here and post which "ONE" or upto three coolers you chose.
a b à CPUs
December 24, 2009 3:54:18 PM

As posted above, the M2N-MX has very little chances to run anything past an Athlon6000
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLan...

It is possible, but not worth the risk.

I would suggest a M4A board that still runs your older Ram (as long as its minimum DDR2-800) and throw in an Athlon II 630

AthlonX4 112$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

M4A78-EM AM3 board running DDR2 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


That will give you a huge noticeable difference.


Or you could go slow using an AM2+ board like M3A78-EM, run the AthlonX2 for a while longer till you have the money to jump to either an AthlonII or a Phenom X4


Others may be able to find combo deals.


Edit 667Mhz Ram will slow things down, better save up a bit more and get CPU Mobo Ram for less then 300$ with DDR3, rebuild the AthlonX2 as a secondary machine with cheep lost and found parts from friends.

The AthlonX2 5000 is still pretty milkable.
December 24, 2009 4:07:27 PM

The whole upgrade vs just buy a new cooler has already been answered, though it is the same as your reply, Coolit.

Recommended a HSF and thats what OP has chosen, BUT, OP would like to know what is the best HSF fan to get for his current setup. So, if you have anything to add to this, like specific answers, then im sure OP will be happy to check it out.
!