PSU/Graphic Cards

[aznkidd]

I am having a debate of which graphic card I want for my computer. I only want graphic cards that are 512MB with DDR3 memory that is in the $40-$60 range. But, I want to know if a graphic card having a requirement of 350W+ work with my PSU which is 300W. I've had this PSU for some time and it hasn't died on me. Here are my system specs.

Mobo: NF-MCP61
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 4200+
2.21 GHz. 1.93 GB of Ram
300W PSU


The graphic card I like is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134080

If there is any other card you guys think that is good and compatible with my computer please tell me.

 

[englandr753]

Are you trying to game? If so, drop the 9500 idea and get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127434

Its a little more to pay up front but with the 30.00 rebate puts you @ 64.99 and much much better performance.

or this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125272


There are some good ATI options as well but I will leave it up to someone else more up to date with ATI's cards to recommend options to price out for you.

Can you see the name of the brand of the psu you have? Give all the specs you can see to we can advise if your psu is good enough to run the cards we recommend...

 

[aznkidd]

I'm not those intense gamers who play crysis and what not, but I do play some MMORPG or MMO games. And I cannot see the brand of it. I can barely make out the Model. If your referring to the specs of the psu then um at +12v it gives +20A.

 

[englandr753]

What specific games are you expecting to play? Is your pc a prebuilt system such as dell or HP or a home built system?

 

[aznkidd]

I don't really know, but I'm playing a MMO game called Rumble Fighter and it has been getting laggy on my onboard card, NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405. My onboard graphics card meets the requirement of Rumble Fighter but whenever I play it, just after 5-10 mins. it gets laggy and I don't like it. The pc I'm currently using is a home built system.

 

[englandr753]

Searching now for ATI, I think a 4650 is a good option...

Update:

I found your new card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829

Read the 1st review. Your system should be fine with this one...

 

[shubham1401]

Searching now for ATI, I think a 4650 is a good option...

Update:

I found your new card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829

Read the 1st review. Your system should be fine with this one...

The 4650 you listed is a DDR2 card .
IMO it won't be such a nice card for the money...

Get a HD 4670..It will work on your PSU...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102792

 

[englandr753]

Either would be fine IMO. He is coming from onboard graphics and probably has a shotty psu so I went in reserve to find a card that has reviews of people actually using 300 watt psus and less. My suggestion is guaranteed but I wouldn't doubt the 4670 should run ok.

The reviews on the card I suggested has mostly 5 eggs and people playing newer games on med to high settings just fine and happy with it...

 

[aznkidd]

Well I looked at both and I decided that the Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 is just fine with me, although it is a DDR2 memory but I'm fine with it. I'm scared that the Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 might be too big for my slot and take up another slot which I think I don't have room for it. So, I guess the 4650 will just be fine with me.

Although, I did some reading and found that people were saying a 4670 would work on a 300W PSU. I'm very interested in this because it is a ddr3 memory that is a reasonable cost.

 

[shubham1401]

20Amps is fine for a 4670...
Though make sure you have a quality PSU.
And don't OC with either of the GPU's...

 

[englandr753]

I don't think he was able to get any info on the make and model of his psu. Considering that I have to assume its a lower end psu since he doesn't know what brand it is. It might run the 4670 ok or it may not. The reviews on the 4650 people were running it with 240 watt psus and up.

I think he will be happy with the 4650 anyway and he has made up his mind. That 4650 is probably due on his doorstep this morning, lol.

Let us know how it works for you when you get it...

 

[shubham1401]

20Amps mean 240W power (P=VI)
His PSU is rated 300W.

Thus efficiency=80%.
Which is not going to happen for a low grade PSU.
Even my older 450W PSU was rated 18Amps on 12V.
Thats why I suggested 4670...

Anyways...Doesn't matter if he has already decided.

Anyways If

 

[aznkidd]

Well yea, I'm going to be ordering the 4650 hd sometime today when my mom comes home. The final price costs $82.51 including tax, shipping, and a 2 year warranty. I for one think that costs too much just for a low profile video card but eh it's probably the only best graphic card that will work with 250W-300W.


EDIT: I just looked at my computer and noticed that I didn't have any bracket holders on it. I think my sister who built this computer, misplaced it somewhere. I can't ask her atm because she lives somewhere else. Will I need new bracket holders to hold the Graphics Card? If so, where can I get some?

On this graphic card it comes with a VGA Bracket that you have to connect with the card. And it comes with an expansion slot bracket just for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=14-102-829-S05&ISList=14-102-829-S01%2c14-102-829-S02%2c14-102-829-S04%2c14-102-829-S03%2c14-102-829-S05&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16814102829&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=SAPPHIRE%20100253HDMI%20Radeon%20HD%204650%20512MB%20128-bit%20GDDR2%20PCI%20Express%202.0%20x16%20HDCP%20Ready%20CrossFire%20Supported%20Low%20Profile%20Video%20Card

Now as you can see, this is how my slot looks like and the bracket space or whatever its called. Um, I have a question... Notice on my pci x2 slot it is at the very top bracket. Now if I put that bracket that comes with the card and put it at my very top bracket in my computer, it should fit in there right? On the card it has the HDMI, DVI, and the VGA connector so when I connect the VGA to the card will it all fit in the bracket that came with the card?




Or we can skip all that and just get this card which is the same but 1gb.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102843&cm_re=radeon_4650-_-14-102-843-_-Product

 

[englandr753]

Go with the 2nd card. It will be fine. I wouldn't pay for an extended 2 year warranty for that card. You already have a 2 year limited warranty that should cover most issues you might have.

Remember, this is to help you stay low cost with decent game play so don't add to the cost if you don't have to.

 

[aznkidd]

Okay but don't I need a bracket holder to hold the Graphics Card? As I said, The holder thingy isn't on my computer... So, I cannot buy the Graphic Card until I get that straighten out.

Ooh, and explain to me how I already have the 2-year warranty because I don't see it anywhere. :[

 

[englandr753]

Okay but don't I need a bracket holder to hold the Graphics Card? As I said, The holder thingy isn't on my computer... So, I cannot buy the Graphic Card until I get that straighten out. :[

I'm unclear on what holder bracket thingy you are talking about, lol. Can you take a better pic?

, and explain to me how I already have the 2-year warranty because I don't see it anywhere. :[

View that item home page, click on specifications tab and its at the bottom of the page...

 

[aznkidd]

Ok an example in this picture which I found on the internet. And, I'm talking about the screws that is holding the card in the computer. I think I have the screws for it so I put it in the small hole to see if it will fit. I'm thinking I have to wait for the card and then put it in and then the screw should fit because I was testing to see if the screws will fit the small hole but it doesn't atm.

 

[englandr753]

If your screws you have don't fit then you might be able to rob your case 1 screw from the screws that hold your side door on. That usually is the same thread and you usually have two per door. One will hold your door just fine and use the other for the card if necessary. You shouldn't have any issues with that...