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First Time, Low coast Gaming Build ~$750

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October 6, 2009 7:25:23 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: sometime this month (October)

BUDGET RANGE: under $750... curantly @ $707 (would rather it be under 700... but i gave up there)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: MMO gaming... is there time for anything else?

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: would like to use AMD CPU, and ATI GPU, but open to anything

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: trying keep options open for overclocking/crossfire if i want to play w/ it later on

This is my frist time to build a system... i posted a build a few months back to get a better feel for how to build a balanced system
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265835-31-first-timer...

Anyway this build's main use will be for MMO's (WoW, and now Aion) I curantly play on a lap-top... which works fine till i get in congested areas (raids/Cities) and expirance low fps... so w/ that said here is what i've put togather this time around:


Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100277L Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD/DVD: Sony Optiarc Black all in one with LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 SP2B for System Builders...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also... Any reason i should consider Vista? i've herd nothing but bad things about it when it comes to games and eating sytem resorces.

Thank you for your time and any coments/advice ahead of time =)



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October 6, 2009 8:13:52 AM

^ That is a good build for your requirements...
But I would suggest some changes...
1. PSU - Change to this one...You wont need 700W for that HD 4770 crossfire...This can easily handle that crossfire...
OCZ Fatality 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. OS - Get the Vista with Free WIN 7 upgrade. It is better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. HDD - Why do you want a old HDD, when you can get a 500GB HDD for just $10 more and that too with Free shipping...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. GPU - Get this one...Is cheaper...
Powercolor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. CASE - Get the Antec 300 Illusion - Comes with 2 additional fans for just $5 more...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 6, 2009 8:31:42 AM

Hey, I just laid this one out for someone else:

Processor/motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $212.99

Memory/graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $265.98 ($245.98 w/ mail-in rebate)

Hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $49.99

Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $30.99

Power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 ($39.99 w/ mail-in rebate)

Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 ($24.99 w/ mail-in rebate)

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.95

$719.88 ($674.88 w/ mail-in rebates)

If you need to save money you can downgrade to the 4870 with this combo and save $50 off the total price. For an OS you're going to want Windows Vista with a Windows 7 upgrade, not Windows XP, in its x86-64 flavor (64-bit). You can get $10 off the price with a combo on one of your components, or buy the OEM version of Windows 7 when it comes out and save more money.

To be honest its probably a bit of an overkill, but it is a great system for the money and will last you. The cooler will get you to probably around 3.6 GHz (from 2.8 GHz) on the processor, which is triple core and probably the best bargain gaming processor on the market at that price point. The 4890 will overclock a bit too, not that you'd probably need it though, at stock speeds it will run most any game at 1920x1080 on high-very high details and depending on the game, a good amount of anti-aliasing. It has DDR3 RAM, a good power supply, and an excellent case and 500GB instead of the low amount of storage you chose in the first post. The motherboard will allow you to run CrossFire, but I would recommend just using single card solutions because it's more efficient and puts less strain on your power supply.
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October 6, 2009 3:59:26 PM

WOW thank you for your speedy replies =) i will look into these indepth...

A friend had pointed out the same about the hard drive being small... guess i was trying to save anywhere i could to use elsewhere... i haven't even filled half of my 100G hard drive on my lap-top, BUT my friend had the good point of "you think you never need space till your don't have any" ^^

Thank you all again for your time and advise ^^
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October 6, 2009 8:53:16 PM

Contemporary games like WoW and Aion will each take 3-10GB of HDD space. It doesnt take many to fill a 100gb drive. Hard drives run more efficiently when they are less than 50% full.
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October 8, 2009 8:14:31 PM

Ok, i have a question, if anyone is still looking... since i can get this CPU and MB in a comob for about the same prices as what i have picked out... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

would the extra core, at slower speed be any better... i know it more or less depends on what games, and programs you use... but im unsure how to check if, say Aion would make good use of a 3rd core, or if i would be better one w/ 2 cores at higher speeds like the one i have pick out now... I've been told in my old post that:

Quote:
WR2:
WoW also supports 4th cores as well.
But all the really "heavy lifting" is done in a single thread. One of the last WoW benchmarks I saw had the 2.8Ghz E7400 out in front of the 2.66Ghz C2Q 8400.


but im unsure how to check this for myself

thank you all again
Jiivita
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October 8, 2009 8:50:32 PM

There is only about a 10% MHz difference which wont be much of a gameplay difference on a single thread game anyway. I would go with the x3 720 which you can overclock to around 3.2 if you get a decent CPU air cooler. Also you could get lucky and be able to unlock the 4th core.
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October 8, 2009 9:04:37 PM

Whatever you do, don't buy all the components brockh suggested. The motherboard he listed requires DDR2 RAM. The DDR3 RAM in the GPU combo will not work with that motherboard. This combo would work:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $246.98 - $40 MIR's. (Sapphire 4890 + 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 RAM)

The Sunbeam cooler also interferes with the cooling on some motherboards. I would get this Xigmatek cooler instead:

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail $32.99 - $10 MIR
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