[Solved] 5870 out of stock all time!

I see a couple in stock here in the US at Newegg, but a couple are out of stock as well. While i am sure the card is selling well, I have a feeling we are still seeing the manufacturing issues/slowness as before. Hopefully this will get sorted out soon, as this is not good for either company or the consumer.

I read somewhere that apparently ATI went around buying all of them to put in some new computers?

It's a supply "problem". ATI sells the chips to various card companies like Sapphire, XFX, ect. Those companies put them into cards, which are right now all based on the same reference board design. The video card companies sell the complete cards to the vendors that then sell them to us.

The problem of supply lies with the contracts between the video card company and their vendors. Some of the vendors are Newegg, Zipzoom, and other high volume internet retailers.

But there's also the OEM market, like Dell, HP, and other full system retailers that bundle all the parts and sell them with an entire system. Alienware is currently marketing their new high end desktops with CrossFire 5870s. So they certainly have secured a stash of them. There's dozens of other smaller companies selling computer packages with ATI 5870s as well.

Only after the big contract supplies have been fed will the 5800 cards trickle into corner store retail markets. ATI knows that their 5000 series chips are selling like hotcakes, and they're doing everything they can to batch out new and quality chip supplies to pay off all the R&D and make profits. Right now supply exceeds demand, making any retail cards first come first serve

Haha, makes me giddy that I was able to buy two 5870's from newegg on the first day of release.....

I had to wait for two months after release to get my 8800GT's.

haha, was waiting for you to comment....

Anyways I am not talking about Fermi, you have to agree that AMD's shortage has to do with releasing their 5xxx series so quickly. If they would have waited a month or two this would not be happening.... Not that it affects AMD in any way but just like I said the day of the launch, YOU WILL SEE A FEW ON E-BAY FOR SALE ......

Also understand that fermi will have these exact same issues. There are limits to how fast chips can be made, and you can be sure that AMD is buying every wafer they can.

Fermi will probably be a lot worse actually, given the size of the chip and yields I would expect no more than a trickle of them at first and continuing issues for weeks afterwards.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the price tag of the GT200 series at launch had something to do with that... 650$ for a card about 10% better than the 9800GX2 (performance at launch).

Think about it...

Yea and the 4870x2 was priced at 550.00$ when it came out as well .. Then the GTX 295 dropped and ATI dropped the price by almost 150.00$

At 100$ less and 30+% performance, what is your point?
Also, the longer nVidia takes, the less buyers there are.
I know some people favor certain things, but after all, all cards are made at TSMC, and thats where the supply side has to go thru. Its a new process on more radically changed cards, as said by ATI itslef, tho not as much a chnage as the 19xx series to the 2xxx series. All on a previously troubled process (see 4770), so yes, rushing them out the door to get sales and early entry has caused some slow downs, but preorder now, and youll have one soon. No biggie, and by the time Fermi comes around, all these things will have been worked out even further.
If thats what youre trying to say, I agree, but just because theyre nVidia wont make a 3 billion transistor card on a completely brand new arch come out faster, or in higher supply. Just a few things to think about

No, the 4870x2 to the 650$ 280

Nvidia was thinking money, money, money, money,... money,......... MONEY..............!!!!!

So your 5850 crapped out that fast?

Try eBay, I found a bunch in there...

If ATi has sold hundreds of thousands of cards sofar (according to the same source you quote), then it would seem it's not as bad a supply problem as some previous generations, it's more of a demand problem, that would've been handled with a slight boost in price.

It's not like people aren't get HD5K cards, heck even two of them like was mentioned in the thread, it's an issue of everyone wanting one and there not being enough for that higher level of demand.

This isn't a GF7800Ultra / HD2900 launch or worse GF6800/X800 launch, where there are no cards at all except in single shop for an hour at a time.

HD5870 is not out of stock. There's evidence for that:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] =GX-147-XF
Sorry to tell you that:
You got owned.

And not all UK sites are overflowing either.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-94-671-0

Maybe they're just playing hard to get, because they don't like some consumers?

Hey Jimmy's about to log in, put us on *notify*.... oh thank god, he almost bought us and I don't want to go in that rig and just render pr0n all day !!

AAHHHHH! 5870 are still on pre-order!! I need one!!!!!!!

Anybody know any sites other than Ebuyer or overclockers that are selling them?

Actually, I'd argue that AMD must be incensed right now; NVIDIA is MIA, and they can't make enough cards to fill the demand.

As far as I know they don't have magic powers.. they can only make as many cards as they can make. Whether Nvidia were out now or not they woud still have the same numbers in the stores. Unless they are run by the most miserable folks in the world (I know I know.. greedy CEO's probably are) I'd have to assume "we are selling every single card we can produce" is good news. I mean they could be having teh same troubles as Nvidia and have none to sell at all.. Sure, the obvious feeling would be "I wish we could make a few more" but it is still good news around the camp fire and any rational people with AMD are enjoying thier cards success. While I bet they wish they had magic powers to bring a few hundred thousand cards into being.. they know that is silly to wish for...

No. Definitely not the first. Not even close. Ever heard of a paper launch? This is better than that at least. In fact, I'd go as far to say most new high end tech is usually limited in quantity at first, but high prices squash demand so it is not as obvious. I have seen some of these around, not a ton, but enough if you really try you should be able to get your hands on one.