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October 6, 2009 10:07:39 PM

Need help on a /PC/ for family.. any one got any ideas for me?

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Next Week+

BUDGET RANGE: 800$ (Before Rebates)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: ex-gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:US, ILL.

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel 80% sure, Close to the antec p180 for cooling to max, no Water cooling.

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x1024

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Thanks for the help everyone.

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October 6, 2009 10:12:44 PM

You get much better bang for the buck with an AMD build in your price range.

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $188.99 - $10.00 MIR (CPU + motherboard combo)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $88.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $49.99

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.95

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 - $20.00 MIR

SAPPHIRE 100279-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $154.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $31.99

Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $149.99

Total - $784.88 - $30.00 MIR's
October 6, 2009 10:38:29 PM

^+1... shortstuff_mt provide a very good build (best bang for your $... Type build) This build will allow you to play games at a higher resolution than you have listed..
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October 7, 2009 5:19:51 PM

Tommy, did you mean for the $800 budget to include a monitor? If not, it would be nice to upgrade the mobo to one supporting crossfire so later you can increase the video game capability by simplying adding a card; and increasing the PSU to 650 to 700w to support crossfire.
October 14, 2009 11:19:51 AM

Exclude the monitor, just tower and all inside. I have spare Speakers mouse/keyb and Monitors.
I wonder what it would be like then. The parts that is.
October 14, 2009 2:56:23 PM

I noticed you didn't need a monitor, but 1280x1024 is not a fun resolution to work with IMO. I added the 22" monitor on purpose. If you really want to use your old monitor, I guess you could swap the CPU and motherboard for these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $324.98 (Intel i5 750 + Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3R combo).

You could keep all the other components the same, but the 4870 1GB is overkill at 1280x1024.

What OS are you using?
October 14, 2009 2:58:49 PM

I agree with Shortstuff that your budget will buy a better system with AMD. He provided a good system. Take the monitor away and that gives you about $170 to upgrade what he proposed.

I suggest the following upgrades to it:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Combo price on mobo and CPU - $329.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Note that this puts the money on performance - a faster CPU and a mobo with a second PCIe slot so you can later - if you want - upgrade game performance by matching with a second matching video card

Then upgrade to PSU to a larger one that will accomodate a second video card should you decide to add one later

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular - Retail $69.99 after $30 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Revised price = $815.99 - $40 MIR = $770.89 plus shipping and tax
October 14, 2009 3:10:09 PM

If you stick with an AMD build, don't get the 965. The 955 will easily overclock to the same level as a 965. The 965 just makes your wallet lighter for no reason.

The OP said he wasn't interested in crossfire and there's no reason for it when the monitor he's going to use runs at 1280x1024.
October 14, 2009 3:34:16 PM

With that budget and resolution I would go for a high quality 700W psu and an i5 system with sli/crossfire mobo. Just grab a 120 dollar 4850 and you can upgrade the video card when/if you get a better monitor.

I'm at work right now but when i get home ill work on posting a build.
October 14, 2009 3:39:49 PM

I thought the OP also said he was not interested in OC either. I think it much more likely that he may later want to upgrade his monitor and it would be nice to be able to almost double the gaming performance of his computer by simply adding a video card later.

But this is good. The OP can look at the options and decide what he wants to do. Your i5 build is a good one too, and has a mobo that also supports crossfire. So by adding $30 for the larger PSU now he makes either one an easy upgrade to crossfire later should he or his family become gaming enthusiasts.
October 14, 2009 3:49:06 PM

Actually, the motherboard I picked for the i5 build runs the second PCI-E 16x slot at 4x so it would not be a good idea to crossfire on that board.

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October 14, 2009 4:43:58 PM
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Havent done an i5 build before but how about this.

CPU
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
199.99

MOBO
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
169.99

RAM
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
85.99

VIDEO CARD
SAPPHIRE 100245HDMI Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
99.99

HDD
SAMSUNG HD502HI 500GB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
49.99

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
99.99

CASE
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
54.95

DVD
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
29.99


Total before mail in rebates = 790.88 before shipping and taxes
Total after mail in rebates = 760.88 before shipping and taxes

If you want you can swap out that 4850 for the better 4870 for not much more
XFX HD-487A-YWFC Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
124.99

which would make your total

Before mail in rebates = 815.88 before shipping and taxes
after mail in rebates = 795.88 before shipping and taxes


October 14, 2009 5:00:36 PM

Not bad, but there are some definite changes that should be made to that build.

The performance of that 5400RPM drive will suck. The F3 500GB drive is MUCH faster for just a few dollars more.

The Antec 300 Illusion is only $5 more and has free shipping, which will actually make it cheaper in the end.

Do NOT get an IDE DVD burner for a new build. IDE should have been put out to pasture long ago.

There is a combo for that CPU + motherboard if you decide to use it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

October 14, 2009 5:14:01 PM

Thanks for pointing out that i chose the 5400rpm samsung, Ive had my eyes on 2 of the 7200 500gb drives and I guess I was just excited to see they were down to 49.99, guess I didnt take the time to read =-)

Same with the IDE burner, didnt really look just chose the best rated cheap one, again my fault. I gotta stop posting builds at work when im in a hurry.

But thats why he came to the forums, for good advice from everyone.
October 14, 2009 5:18:47 PM

+1^ The i5 will marginally beat the AMD 965 and since OP stated an Intel preference it is the way to go. And system gives him the option to add another video card later if desired.

The OP could save another $30 by going with the OCZ Modstream 700w PSU. I agree the Corsair listed above is marginally better - and I would go Corsair - but the OCZ PSU is a quality component that would work fine. Alternatively, might consider this combo deal with the Antec 300 case and Antec Earthwatts 650 PSU for $129.94, also saving $30 over the build above.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

And here is a combo on the i5 CPU and Gigabyte mobo listed above that saves $15 on the individual prices

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
October 14, 2009 5:27:26 PM

So Tommy, I think it is time we heard from you again with a revised build based on the ideas above and your preferences.
October 14, 2009 7:40:29 PM

OS, Windows 7, I'm quiet impressed though. I love the overall build you guys came up with. I think it will do me perfectly. I'll have to order it 'soonish'.

But please go on with more replys you guys are getting close to the ultimate build here. :D 
October 14, 2009 7:43:37 PM

Avoid the Phenom II X4. It has a TDP of 140 Watts. The Lynnfields are only 95 watts and will out perform any AMD Phenom II for less money.
October 14, 2009 11:41:36 PM

tommykaine said:
But please go on with more replys you guys are getting close to the ultimate build here. :D 


And I thought we were there already.
But it would be helpful if you submitted a revised build so we all know where you are at and others can better comment.
October 25, 2009 12:59:33 AM

Eh yeah alright it's good enough, about to buy it. I'll tell you guys how it is.
October 25, 2009 2:38:24 AM

You did not receive comments after 10/14 because, I think, you never posted a revised build as requested and no one knew where you were at or what to comment on - not even if you were going towards the AMD or Intel builds. Since you did not settle on the big issues it was too difficult to try to identify which the little issues were.
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