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New Vs. Refurbished Gaming Rigs (Dual Vs. Quad) - Need Help Choosing!

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Hi, My local PC store is having another clearout again, and I poped in there to check a few things out, and found the following:

 

1) Refurbished [£169.99 Inc. V.A.T + Postage] - 3 months parts warrenty + 1 year labour warrenty.

 

CPU: E7400 - 2.8Ghz 3MB Cache 1333Mhz FSB. (OC'd to 3.2Ghz)
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz (Ranges From Crucial, Corsair, Kingston.)
GPU: 9800GT 512MB OC'd Edition (Ranges From Different Brands)
HDD: 250GB Sata II
PSU: 550W And Above (Ranges From OCZ, Corsair, Antec.)
MoB: Asus P5QL

 

2) Brand New [£259.99 Inc. V.A.T + Postage] - 1 Years parts warrenty + 1 year labour warrenty.

 

CPU: Q6600 - 2.4Ghz 8MB Cache - 1066Mhz FSB
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz (Ranges From Crucial, Corsair, Kingston.)
GPU: GTS250 (Ranges From Different Brands)
HDD: 250GB Sata II
PSU: 550W And Above (Ranges From OCZ, Corsair, Antec.)
MoB: Gigabyte G31 Motherboard

 

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I know some may suggest the Quad, which is what I was looking at myself, but I am so broke I can't afford food! :O (figure of speach.) I went in there becuase I saw the Quad advertisment, but I looked over and saw the Dual Core rig. Which is more WORTH it in the long run, I know most will say quad, but how long will THAT dual core last in the next 3 years? Medium gaming maybe?

 

Put it this way, is it worth paying the extra for a Quad? Will the prices drop for the Q6600 in the upcoming year? In the U.S.A there falling like hot cakes, but here... In the U.K the prices have slightly risen :D My idea was to purchase a Quad down the line somwhere in the future when I had the $$.

 

Regards.


Message edited by godbrother on 10-07-2009 at 10:56:05 PM
------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
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umm....

"...at myself, but I am so broke I can't afford food! I went..."

I think food should be a priority over a computer...

just my $0.03

Reply to snowgoer1998

Ever heard of 'figure of speach.'

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother

Go for the dual core, that price difference is rather significant and in a year or so the money saved could be used to upgrade it to be superior to the quad. The quad also is not very quick so it will perform worse in non quad threaded applications.

Reply to hunter315

hunter315 wrote :

Go for the dual core, that price difference is rather significant and in a year or so the money saved could be used to upgrade it to be superior to the quad. The quad also is not very quick so it will perform worse in non quad threaded applications.



I was thinking the same thing, I just want loads of man love to convince me to go for it. I have around 150 to blow on an upgrade anyway. Hmm.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother

What about the price? Worth it? Or should I just go ahead and get the MoB/RAM/GPU/PSU/CPU all used from ebay or somthing. I guess it would turn out cheaper for me. Not sure though, still checking if I can get a quad for the same price.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother

I guess it depends on which games you are going to play - and what resolution you want to play at.

Reply to wnysupport

I was hoping to play games like Far Cry 2, CoD Series, Gears of War 2, GRID. (Not Crysis. I hate that game.) Maybe some GTA IV type games.

Still any good? I need it to last me a few years down the line though.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother
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The E7400 system offers you the best chance to do what you want. You'll have the option to upgrade the video card which is all you'll need to enjoy games into the next few years too.

Reply to WR2

WR2 wrote :

The E7400 system offers you the best chance to do what you want. You'll have the option to upgrade the video card which is all you'll need to enjoy games into the next few years too.



So the E7400 is a good CPU to go with for gaming? It is OC'd to 3.2Ghz. How long will it last me?

Reply to godbrother
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People are buying new systems with that CPU (or one less powerful) for gaming now.
With a new video card when you can afford one that system could last you 3 years or more. There might be some games out there you'll have to dial back on top quality settings but you should get a good gaming experience over that length of time - IMO.

Reply to WR2

Alrighty. Here goes nothing, tommorow morning I'll blow off £170... Unless someone can give me a good enough reason not to... by then.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother
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Be sure to let us know how things work out.

Reply to WR2
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godbrother wrote :

Alrighty. Here goes nothing, tommorow morning I'll blow off £170... Unless someone can give me a good enough reason not to... by then.



I think that's a good choice, the p5ql is a good board, I have to machines with that board and have had no problems with them.

------------------------------ ASUS Striker II Extreme , C2D Q9450 OC 3.4, 8 Gig Memory, EVGA 8800GTX Triple SLI, Thermaltake 1000W PSU, Thermaltake Armor + Case, Acer 24" LCD, Water Cooled, 12 Foot DVI Cable, Vista 64 Bit SP2
Reply to baddad

WR2 wrote :

Be sure to let us know how things work out.



Well, I just got back from the store, I found out it comes with a "500W "Eagle" Power Supply, and not a decent one.

But another thing I found out is that it comes with Vista Home Premium disc and key.

Overall, what do you say about the PSU? If its crappy, how much do you think I can get for a Vista Home Premium if I where to sell it?

Thanks.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother
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You can check for yourself the prices being asked for usedVista Home Premium on UK's E-bay site

I suspect you're right about that power supply's quality. But it has been powering the system? Or was it added in by the shop?

Reply to WR2

WR2 wrote :

You can check for yourself the prices being asked for usedVista Home Premium on UK's E-bay site

I suspect you're right about that power supply's quality. But it has been powering the system? Or was it added in by the shop?



Not sure, it was what came with the system. O and the ebay site wasn't working. Any help? Do you think I can get 50 quid for it?

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
Reply to godbrother

You can't sell an OS that's been installed and activated.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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godbrother wrote :

Any help? Do you think I can get 50 quid for it?

Used copies are being flogged on Ebay for £0.99
Plus there is the problem that shortstuff mentioned if your copy of is OEM version. If it's a retail version you can resell it

Reply to WR2

Well, I went with the refurb dual core. And people are right, if I needed 4 cores in the future, by then the q6600 would have fallen below 50 bucks second hand. I can upgrade any time. :)

Thanks fellas!

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
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