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October 8, 2009 6:15:44 AM

Hey everyone,
This is my first attempt at building a computer and I really need help choosing parts and making sure everything is capatible with each other. I plan to build an overall all-around pc based on the i5 cpu and gtx 260. Here's my info :) 


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1-2weeks
BUDGET RANGE: ~$800 plus $150 for monitor
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (esp MMO's like Aion), web surfing, adobe suite, word processing, work
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, OS
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, Tigerdirect
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel, Nvidia, anything that is reliable
OVERCLOCKING: no (I don't know how to)
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: maybe? I have no clue what those are.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 +

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am REALLY new at this so I only know half of what I've doing. I want to build a PC that will last me a number of years before I have to upgrade. I also would like nice parts at a decent price. I haven't decided a case yet because I'm unsure of what to get. Oh yeah, I plan to upgrade to windows 7.

Some questions I have is about the PSU. I'm not sure if the psu I linked to is compatible with my video card or cpu. Also, I was researching the gtx 260 and there's been a lot of complaints about it DOAing or just dying a few days after use. Is the gtx 260 a good card or should i opt for a different one?

Any advice and help with my build is really really appreciated. ^_^


Processor: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video Card: EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W ATX12V v2.01 SLI Ready Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: I haven't decided on it. If you want to suggest me one, feel free! (clear sided is preferred)

I have also been suggested to getting a cpu cooler and not using the intel stock cooler...

Thanks for the help in advance!

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October 8, 2009 7:49:06 AM
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Video Card: You can get an ATI 4890 for less than the price of that GTX 260.

PSU: Not a good brand


Here's a suggestion:

Intel Core i5-750
+
MSI P55-CD53 LGA 1156
Combo Price: $304.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ Obsidian 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600Mhz
+
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100269VXLE Radeon HD 4890 1GB
Combo Price: $261.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec Nine Hundred Black
+
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Modular PSU
Combo Price: $154.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black SATA CD/DVD Burner - $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Grand Total:* $805.92 (before $30 Mail in Rebates)



October 8, 2009 8:08:12 AM

I would go with build's build (wtf? hahaha) except for the following:

Mobo: Asus P7P55D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory: Gskill Ripjaws http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Harddrive: Samsung F3 500 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And as for PSU, go with Corsair or Silverstone. Other brands give top notch PSUs as well... for example, I just bought a cooler master silent pro. You may have to hunt for these though. Stick to the name brands and you should be fine.
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October 8, 2009 6:47:55 PM

Thanks for the suggestions! :)  I am definitely looking into those parts.

I have a few more questions though. I was looking at the sapphire vapor card and I was wondering if it is up to par to the gtx 260. Like, what are the differences between both cards?

If I change the graphics card, do I have to change the motherboard also?

and... is a 550w PSU too small to power my system?

If I wanted to change the case, what type of case should I look for?

OH! and should I consider a CPU cooler? I was reading everywhere and a lot of people are suggesting this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 8, 2009 6:51:06 PM

Link to the Sapphire card please? :) 

Also, you will not have to change the if the video card uses PCI-E. And like I mentioned before, you're going to want a more quality PSU with ample wattage, not just a PSU with ample wattage. Look into other brands besides Rosewill.
October 8, 2009 6:53:36 PM

era86 said:
Link to the Sapphire card please? :) 

Also, you will not have to change the if the video card uses PCI-E. And like I mentioned before, you're going to want a more quality PSU with ample wattage, not just a PSU with ample wattage. Look into other brands besides Rosewill.


sure :) 

Sapphire http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 260 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is there anything specific I should be looking for in a PSU? I know that I need a specific amt of amps to power my video cards.
October 8, 2009 6:57:17 PM

The Sapphire ATI 4890 is on par with the GTX 275, and the 275 > 260 ;) 

You won't have to change the motherboard.

The 550W I suggested is enough.

You said you wanted a case which is clear sided, so I assumed you meant you wanted it to have a window. The Antec 900 has excellent cooling and has a window.
October 8, 2009 7:05:06 PM

build said:
The Sapphire ATI 4890 is on par with the GTX 275, and the 275 > 260 ;) 

You won't have to change the motherboard.

The 550W I suggested is enough.

You said you wanted a case which is clear sided, so I assumed you meant you wanted it to have a window. The Antec 900 has excellent cooling and has a window.


Haha...yeah, clear sided case is what i'm looking for. :)  So I can't just go for ANY case right? I need one with sufficient cooling?

Is the Sapphire VApor 4890 reliable? I know the GTX 260 crashes a lot and is DOA...

Would you also recommend a cpu cooler? I was looking into this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks, I'll go with your PSU :) 
October 8, 2009 7:08:08 PM

Totally forgot build's build (again, lol) had an Antec PSU, so yea you should be fine with that.

As for the CPU cooler, I have a CM Hyper 212+ with and added 120 mm fan on it. My 860 idles at 24C. That might be good for you because it only costs 25 on Amazon.

If you want something a little more extreme, go with Noctua or AC Freezer Rev. 2.
October 8, 2009 7:09:06 PM

You can go for a cheaper case if you want, just make sure it has 2 or more case fans.

I have a Sapphire 4890 and it hasn't failed me yet :) 

If you plan on overclocking then get a CPU cooler, otherwise the stock cooler will suffice.
October 8, 2009 7:14:25 PM

Thanks for everything guys! you both have helped me a lot. :love: 

Almost forgot, I can choose between any of those mobos you both suggested right? any of them will fit the video card (either video card)?
October 8, 2009 7:16:26 PM

Yeah, mine is cheaper but the Asus P7P55D era86 suggested would be better if you don't mind spending more
October 8, 2009 7:22:59 PM

I would wait for the ATI HD 5850 to become available. For about $60 more you get a card similar to the 4890 in performance and DX11 support!
October 8, 2009 7:27:10 PM

His resolution is only 1680x1050, he would be fine even with a 4870. Plus his budget is only $800, he is already slightly over-budget as it is :) 
October 8, 2009 7:32:37 PM

build said:
His resolution is only 1680x1050, he would be fine even with a 4870. Plus his budget is only $800, he is already slightly over-budget as it is :) 


I am planning on purchasing a 22" monitor (which can possibly go above 1680x1050). But yeah, I don't want to spend too much on just a video card. Thanks for the suggestion though. :) 

Oh, and "he" is actually a "she" :p 
October 8, 2009 7:35:19 PM

Sorry about that :lol: 

I have an LG 22" monitor with 1920x1080 resolution and my Sapphire 4890 plays any game I throw at it nicely :) 
October 8, 2009 7:37:07 PM

cynicism said:
I am planning on purchasing a 22" monitor (which can possibly go above 1680x1050). But yeah, I don't want to spend too much on just a video card. Thanks for the suggestion though. :) 

Oh, and "he" is actually a "she" :p 


Stereotyping at its finest :)  :) 

As for the video card, you really are better off with the 5850. It is about 60-70 more than 4890? And you will be able to run newer monitors at higher resolutions better. You also get DX11 support. I would try my best to fit the 5850 in there especially if you consider upgrading your monitor.
October 8, 2009 7:41:54 PM

:lol: 
October 8, 2009 8:01:04 PM

build said:
Sorry about that :lol: 

I have an LG 22" monitor with 1920x1080 resolution and my Sapphire 4890 plays any game I throw at it nicely :) 


sweet! Thanks for that input. At least I know it works.

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As for the video card, you really are better off with the 5850. It is about 60-70 more than 4890? And you will be able to run newer monitors at higher resolutions better. You also get DX11 support. I would try my best to fit the 5850 in there especially if you consider upgrading your monitor.


When does that come out? I'm not a heavy PC gamer (except for MMO's) so I'm not extremely worried about keeping up with directx. I mostly play console games. ^^

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Based on rule 29 of the internet I am inclined to not believe you.


LOL. that's all I have to say :p 

And would you guys recommend ATI or Nvidia? I heard Nvidia's drivers are better (something like that). Unbias input would be best. :) 
October 8, 2009 8:29:50 PM

For some reason, I can't edit my previous message, but I just wanted to ask if it's better than the PSU be on the bottom of the case rather than the top?
October 8, 2009 8:36:56 PM

Just look for a case that you like, has decent cooling and fits your budget :) 
October 8, 2009 9:26:34 PM

cynicism said:
For some reason, I can't edit my previous message, but I just wanted to ask if it's better than the PSU be on the bottom of the case rather than the top?


Funny you should bring that up: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/267934-28-mount-power...

I guess it comes down to preference, but there seem to be more benefits to having it mounted on the bottom.
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