Do you guys ever try push / push. Some people say they "fight" each other but that doesn't ring true to me. If the mass flowrate increases, the temps will be lower (in Q=mc delta t, if m increases, delta t decreases). The air will blow out the sides of the cooler and flow in thru the front and back. This might create some compensating factors (such as portions of the heat exchanger not receiving airflow) but those exist in the dead spot of the fan in Push or Push Pull anyway. The only other thing that would make me think push pull could be more efficient and effective than push push (or pull pull) is if the fluid resistance of the smaller sides is far below that of the front and back. I would think this would only become a factor with extremely high cfm thru the cooler.
So I guess my question is:
Has anyone actually tested this? Writing it off before trying it is kind of silly. Those compensating factors might be more of an impact, but without using computational fluid dynamics software (like what I use at work), testing is the only real way to know.
I think that especially at lower RPMs the push push would excel. So for those looking to do hyper efficient and quiet computing it might work well.
Also, in a cooler where the open area of the sides and the front are the same (a square if looking down on the cooler) I think push push would excel further as the compensating factor of higher fluid resistance (with the smaller sides) would be gone.
You could also place a cooler on the front and side (so they make an "L" shape around the heat exchanger) which should eliminate the dead spots in the center of the fan (if you look at a fan, there is not any flow thru the center where the fan motor and rotor rest and no fins lie). If you could duct the exhaust from the cooler out of the case (or duct the fan exhaust in a pull pull which might be easier) then your inlets would be lower, your delta would be lower, and your cpu temp should be lower for any given load and fan speed.
I know I'm talking a lot of thermodynamics and heat transfer / fluid flow, but most of those concepts scale absolutely (I just wonder if the degree to which effectiveness increases are measurable). I would love to know if someone has given these ideas a try and would love to help coach them thru what I am thinking. I am planning to build a rig in the future and I want to totally geek out on it, but right now I'm saving for a down payment on a condo so it's somewhere on the horizon.
FYI I am thinking about the asus p8p67, i5-2500k, coolermax 212 plus, using the case from my Gateway LX6810-01, 8 gb of ripjaws, a corsair builder 650w psu and some type of hd 6870 with my existing raid 150 vraptors and and 600 gb storage drive and using a ducting system to create hot aisle / cold aisle in my case.
So I guess my question is:
Has anyone actually tested this? Writing it off before trying it is kind of silly. Those compensating factors might be more of an impact, but without using computational fluid dynamics software (like what I use at work), testing is the only real way to know.
I think that especially at lower RPMs the push push would excel. So for those looking to do hyper efficient and quiet computing it might work well.
Also, in a cooler where the open area of the sides and the front are the same (a square if looking down on the cooler) I think push push would excel further as the compensating factor of higher fluid resistance (with the smaller sides) would be gone.
You could also place a cooler on the front and side (so they make an "L" shape around the heat exchanger) which should eliminate the dead spots in the center of the fan (if you look at a fan, there is not any flow thru the center where the fan motor and rotor rest and no fins lie). If you could duct the exhaust from the cooler out of the case (or duct the fan exhaust in a pull pull which might be easier) then your inlets would be lower, your delta would be lower, and your cpu temp should be lower for any given load and fan speed.
I know I'm talking a lot of thermodynamics and heat transfer / fluid flow, but most of those concepts scale absolutely (I just wonder if the degree to which effectiveness increases are measurable). I would love to know if someone has given these ideas a try and would love to help coach them thru what I am thinking. I am planning to build a rig in the future and I want to totally geek out on it, but right now I'm saving for a down payment on a condo so it's somewhere on the horizon.
FYI I am thinking about the asus p8p67, i5-2500k, coolermax 212 plus, using the case from my Gateway LX6810-01, 8 gb of ripjaws, a corsair builder 650w psu and some type of hd 6870 with my existing raid 150 vraptors and and 600 gb storage drive and using a ducting system to create hot aisle / cold aisle in my case.