Best answer from TheGreatGrapeApe.
My system:
CPU: Core i7 920
Mobo: ASUS P6TD Deluxe
Ram: G.SKILL F3-12800C9 3x2GB (6GB)
PSU: Corsair Professional HX850
SSD: Intel X25-M 80GB Gen2
Videocard: XFX RADEON HD5870 1GB
My Windows rating:
Processor: 7.4
Memory: 7.4
Graphics: 6.0
Gaming Graphics: 6.0
Primary Hard Disk: 7.7
Overall: 6.0
I have the latest drivers installed from the ati/amd website.
Is anyone else getting results like this? With a similar system or not?
A 9500GT gets 6.3 for gaming graphics, looks like you got the wrong card mate.

My score is 5.9 for everything, what is your point?
You prolly got a rebadged 3870 by mistake! Oh wait, only Nvidia does 3 generation old rebadges nevermind....
I was under the impression that the 5870 was better than a 4870x2.... O_O
Maybe you should try benchmarking something meaningful
It is. Not by much, but it is.
/me blames bugs.
Go wait a week, mebby?
Well...i was kind of wondering whether or not someone ELSE with a 5870 is getting 6.0 or really close to that...so i have something to compare too.
Likely a bug somewhere? You using windows 7 beta?
Test it in a game, the windows score is really not important. But also make sure you have the drivers installed as my 4850 gets a 7.3. Install the drivers and then have it recalculate your score.
It may be because Win7 does not have the 5870 coded in yet. I know for hard drives, it looks for SSDs and caps your score around 6 if you don't have one. It seems reasonable it may do this for GPUs too (we'll need more info to see). If you are confident you installed your drivers correctly, don't worry about it. Try a 3DMark or a real game/benchmark to see for sure. Win7 benchmarks seem bugged and pointless right now.
Try benching with 3dmark06 and you will find out if its your GPU or not. Looking at your specs it is obvious that your 5870 is not the weakest part of your PC. Your PC does not have a "weak" part so the title of your thread does not make sense.
Oh and just for refernce, i think I beat that 6..0 with my 4650. Not 100% sure, but I think my HD (about 6) was the 'weakest' part of my system, so my GC was higher than 6. Would be interesting to know if any other 5870 owners are getting poor results. Might have to wait for the official release to know that though.
My HD 4890 gets a 7.6; the Windows Experience Index doesn't really mean anything. If it's playing your games fine, then don't worry about it.
It's the worst indicator of performance, just like the Vista WEI score.
And it's not the HD5K, Rodney got a 7.7 with a single 5850 at stock speeds.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] es-highest
People were also getting 7.9 with an HD4870 back in January, so I wouldn't put any faith in that, even for driver testing, running games and 3Dmark is better than some arbitrary windoze #.
My radeon 5870 gets a 7.8. SO max is 8 right so cant get much better then that.
My radeon 5850 gets 7.7 so just check if you got the lastest drivers I guess or test in a game..
K i ran 3DMark06 on performance preset and got the following:
I dont think thats quite as good as i should be expecting...right?
EDIT:
I put a new 9800GTX i just got from an RMA into the SAME system and got:
As expected, much lower than the 5870, but is the 5870 around where it should be?
I get 16.5k with a 550 @ 4.0Ghz and a GTX 260 so no that is not right at all you should be around 18k+ (stock settings). The 17 920 @ 2.6Ghz paired with a GTX 295 gets over 17k.
No that's about what everyone else is getting with similar hardware. I saw another person with the exact same graphics score.
With respect to all of the above:
With 5870 Installed:
Windows Score:
Processor: 7.4
Memory: 7.4
Graphics: 6.0
Gaming Graphics: 6.0
Primary Hard Disk: 7.7
Overall: 6.0
3DMark06 Vantage:
GPU - 15614
CPU - 17578
With 9800GTX Installed:
Windows Score:
Processor: 7.4
Memory: 7.4
Graphics: 6.9
Gaming Graphics: 6.9
Primary Hard Disk: 7.7
Overall: 6.9
3DMark06 Vantage:
GPU - 6055
CPU - 38763 (WTF?)
You did not disable hardware-based physics (PhysX) when running 3DMark, so the physics tests which determine the CPU score were done on your GPU, which is many times faster when the workload is highly parallel. The GPU score is what you want to look at.
| randomizer wrote : No that's about what everyone else is getting with similar hardware. I saw another person with the exact same graphics score. |
There is something wrong, very wrong... Ok here is a screen with my 550 @ 3.55Ghz and a GTS 250 slighly overclocked (more or less same as his GTX 9800) and look at my score :
does anyone have a quad clocked at 2.6Ghz so we can compare scores?
That's not 3D Mark Vantage. Your results aren't even close to comparable.
EDIT: I will download and run vantage. My results should be a bit below his as I have a GTX275.
| OvrClkr wrote : There is something wrong, very wrong... Ok here is a screen with my 550 @ 3.55Ghz and a GTS 250 slighly overclocked (more or less same as his GTX 9800) and look at my score :
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Except you're using 3D'06 and the OP is using Vantage.

Damn that i7 and OC'd keyboard.

| OvrClkr wrote : I get 16.5k with a 550 @ 4.0Ghz and a GTX 260 so no that is not right at all you should be around 18k+ (stock settings). The 17 920 @ 2.6Ghz paired with a GTX 295 gets over 17k. |
Not only does it have to be the same settings and 3D mark, it also has to be the same brand, as many times, what 1 brand shows for higher numbers, sometimes shows slower in games.
So, same brand/year etc, and then its till ballpark or just close
I hate bungholios, they truly dont give alot of info, as the cpu score shows, using Phusx as well
Did a complete driver reinstall, this time i got 15660 which is obviously a negligible difference.
Im going to sleep, ill check back with you guys in the morning.
yea I figured.. and using XP also screws it up even more...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1520815
There you go, notice our CPU scores are almost identical, yet my GPU score is well behind, dragging down my 3DMark score.
3DMark Vantage is DX10 only
I think the problem lies with your cpu speed. 2.66ghz.
I bet if you bump it to at least 3ghz your graphics score will go way up.
thanks for the responses guys.
I do plan on overclocking, but the last overclock i ever did was on an E4300 which (right now) appeared to be a hell of a lot more simple than overclocking a i7 920 lol.
Now i see all these BLCK frequencies, QPI this...DRAM that...core bus volt blah blah.
Seems like i got a lot of reading before i tackle that.
There's an overclocking guide for the i7 in the Overclocking > Intel section of this forum. It is certainly more complicated than LGA775 which was a simple matter of raise FSB, raise voltages - as long as your memory can handle the speed.
| ryanmission wrote : My system:
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I'm running an X1950 XTX under Win7 and scoring 5.9 for graphics so this is definitely just an issue with Win7 not recognizing the HD 5870 properly.
| ryanmission wrote : Did a complete driver reinstall, this time i got 15660 which is obviously a negligible difference.
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I've got a 5870 as well. When I was running the 32 bit Win 7 preview with the AMD release candidate drivers I was getting 7.8 on my Windows Experience and around 19k for 3D Mark. I got 64 bit Win 7 professional and the 64 bit drivers and my score dropped to 6.0 on Windows Experience and around 15-16 for 3D Mark. I think the drivers for 64 bit are not as optimized/fleshed out as the 32 bit ones.
| ryanmission wrote : thanks for the responses guys.
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It is a lot simpler than it seems.
I have a very similar system and the exact same thing happend to me. My Hd 5870 was a 7.8 from day one. The I updated ATI latest driver, dated 11/17/09 and that's when it drop to 6.0 WTF!!!
My Rig
Core i5
Corsair Whch50 water cooler
Msi P55-GD65
4GB Ocz Ripjaws
Corsair 705 PSU
intel XM-25 80GB SSD
Sapphire HD5870
Antec 902 Case
Win7 64bit
After the 6.0 I did a complete reinstall of windows 7 and still got a 6.0 so it's gotta be the driver. But not sure. Gonna run 3dmark06 just be be sure.
| ebagdirtbike wrote : I have a very similar system and the exact same thing happend to me. My Hd 5870 was a 7.8 from day one. The I updated ATI latest driver, dated 11/17/09 and that's when it drop to 6.0 WTF!!!
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Dude... it MEANS NOTHING!!! The only thing that matters is GAME PERFORMANCE! Compare that then come back here.
| The_Blood_Raven wrote : Dude... it MEANS NOTHING!!! The only thing that matters is GAME PERFORMANCE! Compare that then come back here. |
Yeah I've read alot of threads knocking WEI. Anyways 3DmarkVantage score Graphics score of 16142 and Cpu score of 16241. So overall I think it's pretty solid. I was thinking since the HD 5970 came out maybe Win7 curved the rating since that's the best card now as of yet but what do I know. Just a thought.
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