How will this PC run WoW and Aion?

Hi guys im building my own PC and just want to finalize the specs, its a budget pc so this is the best i could do Any feedback is appreciated )

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: next week

BUDGET RANGE: US$ 550 maxium

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, sufring the net.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, screen, speakers, software.

PARTS LIST:

Gigabyte GA-MA 770-UD3 Motherboard-
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] otherboard

-AMD Phenom II x2 545 Callisto 3.0 GHZ AM3 80w CPU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 2080w%20CP

-SAPPHIRE 100279-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 0hd%204870

-Samsung 22x DVD Burner

-Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan,
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=1483

-Western Digital WD3200AAJS Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 320GB, 7200rpm, 8MB, SATA-300, OEM
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] eviewStart

-Patriot 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] eviewStart

-D-Link - DFE-530TX+ - 10/100Mbps Ethernet LAN Adapter
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] &CatId=200

Apex PC-319 ATX Black Mid-T Case w/ 300w PSU
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] =A355-2006

Message edited by sniffy on 10-12-2009 at 02:06:14 AM

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Reply to Sonic-Boom

Sorry i forgot to add that in, Im not sure which case to get and what to aim for while picking one but i was thinking of going for this

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] =A355-2006

Reply to sniffy

While cases are mostly of the user's preference, air flow is a must to keep the components cool. That case will probably not have optimal air flow. Looks like a e machines. ^.^

Reply to Sonic-Boom

I was trying to look through and find you a budget case.. but it's rather difficult to find anything in that $50ish range that is nice. Save the money from that Aion subscription and get a better case

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syrani wrote :

I was trying to look through and find you a budget case.. but it's rather difficult to find anything in that $50ish range that is nice. Save the money from that Aion subscription and get a better case

Haha good idea. I looked through the ca TD cases and its slim pickins, that's why i didn't suggest anything.

Reply to Sonic-Boom

Here we go http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811119161

I'm also thinking that GPU may be bottlenecked by that low end processor but one of the experts around here will need to confirm that.

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Sonic-Boom wrote :

Here we go http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811119161

Thanks so much!!

What do you think of the rest of it?

Reply to sniffy

The Black Edition of that CPU is much more popular if you plan on overclocking, for just a bit more. The PSU also seems high for that build a little lower possibly.

Reply to Sonic-Boom

I will probably try to find and go with that, I was suggested to get http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139006

and http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6822136319

Do you think its worth it? Its double the price of the current PSU

Reply to sniffy

The 650watt PSU you selected has a great price although it is higher than what you need. But at that price its worth it for future upgrade. So, I actually retract that statement. As far as the hard drive, its what you need. IF you want to load it up with tons of stuff get the bigger not if not then get the smaller one.

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Sonic-Boom wrote :

The 650watt PSU you selected has a great price but it could be too high for you system. But at that price its worth it for future upgrade.

Should i trust the PSU company? I know its a great price so i picked it.. but im not sure if i should get it cuz of the brand name

edit : I was suggested
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341019

What do you think?

Message edited by sniffy on 10-12-2009 at 03:54:18 AM

Reply to sniffy

Haha you quote as I'm editing, its ok thought. Yeah the OCZ is a very popular brand and wont get too many objections, watts still high for your system but its not necessarily a bad thing. That build looks good, I'm sure some experts will tweak it soon.

Reply to Sonic-Boom

If you are building a "budget" PC personally I'd buy a much cheaper PSU, I generally spend in the $60-$70 range for a build like yours and usually find them cheaper with deals. If the main focus of your gaming is WoW I'd also recommend saving $75 and going with a Radeon HD 4850 instead. You don't need the power of a 4870. Instead save that $75 and put it toward your next GPU upgrade in the future. It's too bad the 4850's have gone up in price, not long ago you could get a 4850 for $80ish. If you are going to spend in the $80 range for a hard drive I'd just move up to a 1TB and you'll be good to go for awhile. What is the additional ethernet card for, your MB has onboard? If you do need one you can do lots better than $16, I bought one on clearance at Target the other day for $5. You can probably just ask around at work, friends, etc someone probably has one collecting dust somewhere they will just give you. If you are not an overclocker don't spend the extra cash for the Black Edition since you won't utilize it, if you do overclock or want to give it a try in the future that may be a good option for you then. Good luck!

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Thanks much!! really appreciate your help!

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galaxypolice22 wrote :

If you are building a "budget" PC personally I'd buy a much cheaper PSU, I generally spend in the $60-$70 range for a build like yours and usually find them cheaper with deals. If the main focus of your gaming is WoW I'd also recommend saving $75 and going with a Radeon HD 4850 instead. You don't need the power of a 4870. Instead save that $75 and put it toward your next GPU upgrade in the future. It's too bad the 4850's have gone up in price, not long ago you could get a 4850 for $80ish. If you are going to spend in the $80 range for a hard drive I'd just move up to a 1TB and you'll be good to go for awhile. What is the additional ethernet card for, your MB has onboard? If you do need one you can do lots better than $16, I bought one on clearance at Target the other day for $5. You can probably just ask around at work, friends, etc someone probably has one collecting dust somewhere they will just give you. If you are not an overclocker don't spend the extra cash for the Black Edition since you won't utilize it, if you do overclock or want to give it a try in the future that may be a good option for you then. Good luck!

for 85 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102824

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herniter wrote :

Sniffy,

That lineup will run wow easily with graphics maxed @ most any resolution. Even in a 25 man raid or in Dalaran you should see well over 60FPS with graphics maxed @ 1920x1200 or lower. I'm not sure how big your monitor is or what resolution you want to play out. WoW I believe is 6+? years old.

Aion on the other hand is much more graphically demanding. That set up will defiantly run Aion but you're going to see quite a bit of lag in the Abyss, and other crowded areas with 30 or so people. I you would say when soloing or in a small group you would be able to turn the graphics up mid/high with a resolution of 1680×1050 or lower. If you plan to do a lot of mass PvP or want to run seamlessly through towns you'll either need to crank the resolution way down or upgrade your video card/(crossfire).

^obviously this guy has no idea what he's talking about.
graphics maxed @ 1920x1200 over 60FPS in Dalaran with 4870? Your pathetic. Don't make a suggestion that is misleading, better yet don't post if you don't know anything.

Message edited by overshocks on 10-12-2009 at 05:16:59 AM

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Here's a set of WoW benchmarks for both CPUs and GPUs.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid [...] /Practice/

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid [...] /Practice/

As you can see a 4870 and a duo-core CPU at 3.0 +GHz will give you excellent performance at anything but ULTRA settings.

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dirtmountain wrote :

Here's a set of WoW benchmarks for both CPUs and GPUs.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid [...] /Practice/

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid [...] /Practice/

As you can see a 4870 and a duo-core CPU at 3.0 +GHz will give you excellent performance at anything but ULTRA settings.

wheres 4870 and a duo core? i only see duo core + 285 gtx
and what resolution u talking about

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Reply to overshocks

The CPU benchmark shows 6 different duo core processors and uses the ULTRA setting with shadows enabled. The GPU benchmark shows the 4870 1GB at 3 different resolutions. All benchmarks were taken from WoW WotLK.

Other WoW benchmarks that doesn't have the 4870, but other gpus
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] html#sect0

This benchmark is from a 5850 review.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3650&p=7

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dirtmountain wrote :

The CPU benchmark shows 6 different duo core processors and uses the ULTRA setting with shadows enabled. The GPU benchmark shows the 4870 1GB at 3 different resolutions. All benchmarks were taken from WoW WotLK.

Other WoW benchmarks that doesn't have the 4870, but other gpus
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] html#sect0

This benchmark is from a 5850 review.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3650&p=7

that means you were wrong at saying "As you can see a 4870 and a duo-core CPU at 3.0 +GHz will give you excellent performance at anything but ULTRA settings."

It are implying two separate cases, so be more accurate. It should not be an "and" rather an "or". This is misleading to the OP.

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Message edited by overshocks on 10-12-2009 at 10:34:26 AM

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overshocks wrote :

that means you were wrong at saying "As you can see a 4870 and a duo-core CPU at 3.0 +GHz will give you excellent performance at anything but ULTRA settings."

It are implying two separate cases, so be more accurate. It should not be an "and" rather an "or". This is misleading to the OP.

Garbage. Any duo core CPU at over 3.0 GHz and a 4870 will give great performance in WoW period. I said "and" it's what i meant. I've posted 5 different benchmarks to back up what i said and to show the OP his different options. If you don't like it, post other benchmarks showing i'm wrong.

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dirtmountain wrote :

Garbage. Any duo core CPU at over 3.0 GHz and a 4870 will give great performance in WoW period. I said "and" it's what i meant. I've posted 5 different benchmarks to back up what i said and to show the OP his different options. If you don't like it, post other benchmarks showing i'm wrong.

Agreed dirtmountain %100.

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dirtmountain wrote :

Garbage. Any duo core CPU at over 3.0 GHz and a 4870 will give great performance in WoW period. I said "and" it's what i meant. I've posted 5 different benchmarks to back up what i said and to show the OP his different options. If you don't like it, post other benchmarks showing i'm wrong.

No, what I mean is when you use "and" it is misleading because the OP thinks using the Duo core AND the 4870 at the same time gives great performance. Read my post above again.

Message edited by overshocks on 10-12-2009 at 06:49:31 PM

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syrani wrote :

Agreed dirtmountain %100.

Lol kid don't come here and start trying to bash, like in your thread, big fail. You don't even know the situation.

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Message edited by overshocks on 10-12-2009 at 06:50:17 PM

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overshocks wrote :

Lol kid don't come here and start trying to bash, like in your thread, big fail. You don't even know the situation.

Overshocks, i noticed in some of your other threads you suggested some good Processors with i5? Is it possible to get that with my budget if so which Mobo + CPU would you suggest for me to get? Do you think this set up will Run Aion ?

Reply to sniffy

An i5 processor is 199 alone on newegg. a nice mobo for it is 180 + or so, thats 400 right there.

Reply to Sonic-Boom

Additionally, general consensus is that an AMD build is the best for a tight budget.

Reply to Sonic-Boom

the cheaper you can get an i5 system is $745, which is when i said, why the rush, why not wait a bit, if you can get $550 why can you save $190, but proly the most you can get is the phenom II x3 for like 20-30 more, with that budget Sonic is right. amd is your only option.

Message edited by snakej on 10-13-2009 at 05:03:36 AM

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here is my i5 build in case you want to reconsider:

CPU & Motherboard Combo: MSI P55M-GD45 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail & Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
1. MSI COMPUTER P55M-GD45: $119.99
2. Intel BX80605I5750: $199.99
Combo Discount: -$25.00
Combo Price: $294.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.273112

Memory ram & GPU Combo: XFX HD-487A-ZWFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail & G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail
1.XFX HD-487A-ZWFC: $144.99
2. G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL: $85.99
Combo Discount: -$15.00
Combo Price: $215.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.265555

HHD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
Voted Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC 2008
Original Price: $104.99
You Save: $15.00
$89.99
($69.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card )
Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139004

Case: COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119203

DVD: LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - OEM
$30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136168

Grand Total: $744.92

Message edited by snakej on 10-13-2009 at 08:32:12 PM

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overshocks wrote :

Lol kid don't come here and start trying to bash, like in your thread, big fail. You don't even know the situation.

*sigh* kid.. thanks for bashing me while I was making an agreement. I don't know the situation? Look up! I was in this thread before you, chubs.

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