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December 29, 2009 4:33:55 AM

I'm building a new computer soon, and i'm not sure which of the following two combinations i should go with:

phenom ii x4 955 BE and a hd 5770

or

athlon ii x4 620 (which i'll OC) and a hd 5850


i'm going to be gaming mainly. my screen's max res. is 1600x900.

and i know, going with the p2 955 and the 5850 is better, but i don't have the money to do that. i figure it's better to go with the second combo because of the better vga but anyone have their own opinions they'd like to share with me? thanks :) 

oh, p.s. i'm currently on a 12" powerbook g4... which has a 1ghz processor, 768mb of ram, and no L3 cache either... so that's also why i'm thinking the athlon ii is going to be the better combo because it is such an improvement as to what i have already haha

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December 29, 2009 4:43:47 AM

I would get PII-955 + HD5770 combo for having the large L3 cache and 600MHz more frequency. The large cache and additional 600MHz help immensely in FPS during games.

In addition, you can simply add a second HD5770 when it gets cheaper a few months later. By then, you will have better performance than a single HD5850 with minimal increase in power consumption.
December 29, 2009 4:49:33 AM

i know that the 955 is 600MHz faster, but i was planning on OCing the 620 fairly high... do you still suggest the 955? or, let me rephrase that, does the L3 cache really make THAT much of a difference? I know I saw some charts around while doing research but my memory seems to be foggy at the moment as to whether or not it did make a difference...
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December 29, 2009 5:03:54 AM

klunuts said:
I'm building a new computer soon, and i'm not sure which of the following two combinations i should go with:

phenom ii x4 955 BE and a hd 5770

or

athlon ii x4 620 (which i'll OC) and a hd 5850


i'm going to be gaming mainly. my screen's max res. is 1600x900.

and i know, going with the p2 955 and the 5850 is better, but i don't have the money to do that. i figure it's better to go with the second combo because of the better vga but anyone have their own opinions they'd like to share with me? thanks :) 

oh, p.s. i'm currently on a 12" powerbook g4... which has a 1ghz processor, 768mb of ram, and no L3 cache either... so that's also why i'm thinking the athlon ii is going to be the better combo because it is such an improvement as to what i have already haha

That's a tough one. Let's see:

Athlon II X4 620 vs. Phenom II X4 955:



This trend continues as such.

As for CPU only applications:





Radeon HD 5770 vs. Radeon HD 5850:


This trend continues as such.


Looking at this information, I would purchase the Athlon II X4 620 + Radeon HD 5850 if gaming is your primary use. If your primary use is Video Encoding, Audio Encoding, 3D Rendering (Ray Tracing included) I would go for the Phenom II X4 955 + Radeon HD 5770.
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December 29, 2009 5:12:23 AM

Gaming is the primary place L3 cache is needed in K10, not rendering or other cpu intensive software. Some tasks, like 3d rendering with 3ds max, Phenom II couldn't even give a 10% performance increase over the original Phenom at same clocks.


I would still go with the 5850 and Athlon II X4 though, as the gpu makes a bigger difference than the cpu will.
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December 29, 2009 5:14:53 AM

Do what ElMoIsEviL suggested if you are not considering adding a second HD5770 later on.

My suggestion is based on impression of getting a second HD5770 later to have the performance you want(i.e. 955+HD5850).
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December 29, 2009 1:31:32 PM

Yeah, I like that idea^
I would get the 955 and a 5770 now, and add another 5770 in a few weeks.
December 29, 2009 6:43:31 PM

alright, i think i'll do the 955 and the 5770 then, however i was going to get this mobo:

Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P


and i won't be able to crossfire with it i don't believe... anyone have a suggestion on a mobo i could go with? something at relatively the same price as that one.
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December 29, 2009 7:02:08 PM

I can't believe you let these schmucks talk you out of a better video card.
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December 29, 2009 11:57:48 PM

Yeah really, you can clock the 620 to 3.6 GHz+ which will nullify any benefit from the Phenom II 955 in gaming. All the while, a single 5850 should double your performance. The L3 cache is only relevant in non-gaming tasks, and still isn't crucial even then.
December 30, 2009 12:13:46 AM

Haha alright alright calm down guys I haven't bought anything yet haha. Either way though, can someone reccomend a different mobo so I can eventually crossfire?
December 30, 2009 12:23:24 AM

Thanks for the link!
December 30, 2009 12:50:19 AM

Alright thank you everyone for the helpp
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December 30, 2009 2:27:14 AM

Actually I am fairly certain that the 790Fx, the one I linked, is the faster chipset.
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December 30, 2009 2:38:08 AM

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But the MB is a VERY ugly color scheme


LOL?

It is also made by DFI who make the most overclocking friendly BIOS in the industry, supports full crossfire, is cheap, and is made by a high-end brand, not ECS or ASrock.
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December 30, 2009 2:44:34 AM

Pffh, they are no DFI.

Just look at how pretty the DFI board is!
December 30, 2009 3:51:52 PM

unfortunately that DFI mobo that amw1011 posted is kind of out of my price range... i'm liking that msi mobo that pyscho posted, so i think i'm going to go with that one..

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December 30, 2009 4:06:31 PM
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1) Go for the 5850;

2) Select the mobo (regardless of aesthetics) which best suits your needs now and in the future; and

3) Spend what's left on the CPU (I would tend toward the Phenom 550 but the Quad Nazzis would not approve).


knifearefun said:
this is my current mobo and I was wondering if it is any good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I've had the clock on the AM2+ version of that mobo up to 278MHz 100% load stable. Impressive I thought for a sub-$100 mobo ....
December 30, 2009 7:12:26 PM

thanks for the links... definitely gonna go with the 5850 haha
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