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I'm building a new computer soon, and i'm not sure which of the following two combinations i should go with:

phenom ii x4 955 BE and a hd 5770

or

athlon ii x4 620 (which i'll OC) and a hd 5850


i'm going to be gaming mainly. my screen's max res. is 1600x900.

and i know, going with the p2 955 and the 5850 is better, but i don't have the money to do that. i figure it's better to go with the second combo because of the better vga but anyone have their own opinions they'd like to share with me? thanks :)

oh, p.s. i'm currently on a 12" powerbook g4... which has a 1ghz processor, 768mb of ram, and no L3 cache either... so that's also why i'm thinking the athlon ii is going to be the better combo because it is such an improvement as to what i have already haha
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  1. I would get PII-955 + HD5770 combo for having the large L3 cache and 600MHz more frequency. The large cache and additional 600MHz help immensely in FPS during games.

    In addition, you can simply add a second HD5770 when it gets cheaper a few months later. By then, you will have better performance than a single HD5850 with minimal increase in power consumption.
  2. i know that the 955 is 600MHz faster, but i was planning on OCing the 620 fairly high... do you still suggest the 955? or, let me rephrase that, does the L3 cache really make THAT much of a difference? I know I saw some charts around while doing research but my memory seems to be foggy at the moment as to whether or not it did make a difference...
  3. klunuts said:
    I'm building a new computer soon, and i'm not sure which of the following two combinations i should go with:

    phenom ii x4 955 BE and a hd 5770

    or

    athlon ii x4 620 (which i'll OC) and a hd 5850


    i'm going to be gaming mainly. my screen's max res. is 1600x900.

    and i know, going with the p2 955 and the 5850 is better, but i don't have the money to do that. i figure it's better to go with the second combo because of the better vga but anyone have their own opinions they'd like to share with me? thanks :)

    oh, p.s. i'm currently on a 12" powerbook g4... which has a 1ghz processor, 768mb of ram, and no L3 cache either... so that's also why i'm thinking the athlon ii is going to be the better combo because it is such an improvement as to what i have already haha

    That's a tough one. Let's see:

    Athlon II X4 620 vs. Phenom II X4 955:



    This trend continues as such.

    As for CPU only applications:





    Radeon HD 5770 vs. Radeon HD 5850:


    This trend continues as such.


    Looking at this information, I would purchase the Athlon II X4 620 + Radeon HD 5850 if gaming is your primary use. If your primary use is Video Encoding, Audio Encoding, 3D Rendering (Ray Tracing included) I would go for the Phenom II X4 955 + Radeon HD 5770.
  4. Gaming is the primary place L3 cache is needed in K10, not rendering or other cpu intensive software. Some tasks, like 3d rendering with 3ds max, Phenom II couldn't even give a 10% performance increase over the original Phenom at same clocks.


    I would still go with the 5850 and Athlon II X4 though, as the gpu makes a bigger difference than the cpu will.
  5. Do what ElMoIsEviL suggested if you are not considering adding a second HD5770 later on.

    My suggestion is based on impression of getting a second HD5770 later to have the performance you want(i.e. 955+HD5850).
  6. Yeah, I like that idea^
    I would get the 955 and a 5770 now, and add another 5770 in a few weeks.
  7. alright, i think i'll do the 955 and the 5770 then, however i was going to get this mobo:

    Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P


    and i won't be able to crossfire with it i don't believe... anyone have a suggestion on a mobo i could go with? something at relatively the same price as that one.
  8. I can't believe you let these schmucks talk you out of a better video card.
  9. Yeah really, you can clock the 620 to 3.6 GHz+ which will nullify any benefit from the Phenom II 955 in gaming. All the while, a single 5850 should double your performance. The L3 cache is only relevant in non-gaming tasks, and still isn't crucial even then.
  10. Haha alright alright calm down guys I haven't bought anything yet haha. Either way though, can someone reccomend a different mobo so I can eventually crossfire?
  11. Thanks for the link!
  12. Alright thank you everyone for the helpp
  13. Actually I am fairly certain that the 790Fx, the one I linked, is the faster chipset.
  14. Quote:
    But the MB is a VERY ugly color scheme


    LOL?

    It is also made by DFI who make the most overclocking friendly BIOS in the industry, supports full crossfire, is cheap, and is made by a high-end brand, not ECS or ASrock.
  15. Pffh, they are no DFI.

    Just look at how pretty the DFI board is!
  16. Oh how much I wish I could have afforded this P55 (DFI LANParty DK P55-T3eH9):


    I guess I'll settle:


    5GHz+ FTW!
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234169
  17. this is my current mobo and I was wondering if it is any good
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128411
  18. unfortunately that DFI mobo that amw1011 posted is kind of out of my price range... i'm liking that msi mobo that pyscho posted, so i think i'm going to go with that one..
  19. Best answer
    1) Go for the 5850;

    2) Select the mobo (regardless of aesthetics) which best suits your needs now and in the future; and

    3) Spend what's left on the CPU (I would tend toward the Phenom 550 but the Quad Nazzis would not approve).


    knifearefun said:
    this is my current mobo and I was wondering if it is any good
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128411


    I've had the clock on the AM2+ version of that mobo up to 278MHz 100% load stable. Impressive I thought for a sub-$100 mobo ....
  20. To kind of finallize your choice of gpus:

    I couldn’t find a strait 5850 vs 5770 so I have two articles that you can look over and get a general idea of the power difference.
    A: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5850,2433.html
    B: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-5770-overclocking,2473.html

    A shows that the 5850 will outperform the 4890 and the GTX 285 which are both cards used in B. Both the 4890 and the GTX 285 outperform the 5770.
  21. thanks for the links... definitely gonna go with the 5850 haha
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