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Hi everyone,

I was looking at this for a new build:

$31 Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM

$110 Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail

$70 Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$160 HIS H577F1GDG Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

$74 Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 - Retail

$205
Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7500 - Retail
COMBO
GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Total $750.

Does anyone have any suggestions for improvements without changing the overall cost?
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  1. It's a bit of a trade off, but one that works in your favor: Samsung F3 500GB is much faster than the 640GB Caviar Blue, and significantly cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=samsung%20f3

    Other than that, if you're okay with the idea that there won't be any viable upgrades for the CPU down the road, it's a good system for the price.
  2. you have this combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.272066 phenom II x3+gigabyte 770 at 188$
    or same mb and Athlon II x4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.272067 at 168$
    better performance and more future proof
  3. wathman said:
    It's a bit of a trade off, but one that works in your favor: Samsung F3 500GB is much faster than the 640GB Caviar Blue, and significantly cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=samsung%20f3

    Other than that, if you're okay with the idea that there won't be any viable upgrades for the CPU down the road, it's a good system for the price.


    Thanks for the advice. I am happy with the lack of upgrade. This is a first build and if I can get it to work I will probably try something more adventurous in a year or so.
  4. I agree with Daggs, both of the mobo-cpu combos he presented would give better performance and be more futureproof.

    However, when I added up your listed costs, I only got $650, not $750. I'm not sure if you left it off as money for an os, or not, but if you didn't, you could get a better system by including a better gpu such as the 5850.
  5. pepperman said:
    I agree with Daggs, both of the mobo-cpu combos he presented would give better performance and be more futureproof.

    However, when I added up your listed costs, I only got $650, not $750. I'm not sure if you left it off as money for an os, or not, but if you didn't, you could get a better system by including a better gpu such as the 5850.


    Thanks for the help - I failed to copy and paste a $100 OEM Windows 7 - I did not notice it going into a separate order. Thanks!
  6. daggs said:
    you have this combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.272066 phenom II x3+gigabyte 770 at 188$
    or same mb and Athlon II x4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.272067 at 168$
    better performance and more future proof

    I'll add another +1 for Dagg's suggestion. Building a new build around the dead-end LGA 775 socket doesn't make much sense. You'll have a faster computer with a better upgrade path if you use the Phenom II X3 720 + GA-MA770T-UD3P combo. His combo also saves you money. It's a win-win.
  7. daggs said:

    That combo would require dropping down to DDR2 RAM. I would stick with the GA-MA770T-UD3P combo deal.
  8. shortstuff_mt said:
    I'll add another +1 for Dagg's suggestion. Building a new build around the dead-end LGA 775 socket doesn't make much sense. You'll have a faster computer with a better upgrade path if you use the Phenom II X3 720 + GA-MA770T-UD3P combo. His combo also saves you money. It's a win-win.


    Thanks to you both. I do have another option. I could recycle my Nvidia 8800 GT and use the savings on a graphics card to jump to a i5 combo like this

    1. GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R: $139.99
    2. Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail $199.99

    With a $15 discount and then plan on upgrading the graphics card later. Would this make any sense?
  9. That wouldn't be a bad idea depending on what you will use the computer for. I never saw you list the intended uses for the computer. The i5 is certainly a very good option for a new build. It would be good to pass on the 5770 anyway. Anandtech certainly wasn't very impressed with it. The 4870 1GB is a stronger card for less money.

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=1

    You could also save an additional $25 by using this combo:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.270438 (i5 750 + Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 combo) $299.98

    http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3652
  10. Hey, I'm here to help.

    TO OP, can you post in this format?
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

    Also, for $800 you can get a i5 build, just a heads up. Without O.S.
  11. shortstuff_mt said:
    That wouldn't be a bad idea depending on what you will use the computer for. I never saw you list the intended uses for the computer. The i5 is certainly a very good option for a new build. It would be good to pass on the 5770 anyway. Anandtech certainly wasn't very impressed with it.

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=1


    Sorry! It will be for general use and then for games - Fallout 3 and Empire Total War which are struggling on my Dell XPS 400.
  12. overshocks said:
    Hey, I'm here to help.

    TO OP, can you post in this format?
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

    Also, for $800 you can get a i5 build, just a heads up. Without O.S.


    APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

    BUDGET RANGE: (e.g.: 750) After Rebates

    SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

    PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, maybe graphics card

    PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

    COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

    PARTS PREFERENCES: None

    OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

    SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

    MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

    ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Quiet would be nice
  13. yeah, I agree. the 5770 would be a possibility for a current HTPC build if the price drops a bit further, but overall you're better off spending $100 more and getting a 5850.
  14. Here's a i5 750 build I did two days ago. Without O.S. You never mentioned you need one or not.



    Video card 4890 1GB $189.99 $169.99 AFTER REBATE (really cheap)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102852

    MOBO + RAM Combo Price: $244.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.264218

    hard drive $54.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181


    heatsink $29.99 (you said overclocking)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    case + power supply Combo Price: $139.94
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.265980


    Optical drive $28.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

    i5 750 $199.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

    $878.87 TOTAL BEFORE REBATE.

    Also, it's a little over budget because I made this build kind of future proof for you. The motherboard can support Crossfire, which you can add another 4890 down the road. The power supply 650W is good enough for 2 4890s. If you don't want future proof then I could edit this build and make it around $800.

    This i5 build is the best bang for the buck right now
  15. Thanks Overshocks!

    I am upgrading from a Pentium D 8.20 GHz so anything ought to be a huge improvement.

    Do you think I could cut down on the PSU and the heatsink to bring the price into the $800 range if I give up on overclocking and planning on crossfire in the near future?

    Thanks again for your help,

    Rob
  16. No to LGA 775. Yes to LGA 1156. The HD 5770 is an awesome card. It's comparable to the HD 4890.
  17. In theoretical performance, yes, the 5770 is comparable to the 4890, however, due to its crippled memory interface, it performs slower than the 4870.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-6.html
  18. Best answer
    Bob_60 said:
    Thanks Overshocks!

    I am upgrading from a Pentium D 8.20 GHz so anything ought to be a huge improvement.

    Do you think I could cut down on the PSU and the heatsink to bring the price into the $800 range if I give up on overclocking and planning on crossfire in the near future?

    Thanks again for your help,

    Rob


    Yes, I can. Maybe you missed what I wrote up there. Here's it again.

    $878.87 TOTAL BEFORE REBATE.

    "Also, it's a little over budget because I made this build kind of future proof for you. The motherboard can support Crossfire, which you can add another 4890 down the road. The power supply 650W is good enough for 2 4890s. If you don't want future proof then I could edit this build and make it around $800.

    This i5 build is the best bang for the buck right now"

    Here's the new build.. with overclocking(you can still overclock with stock heatsink to 3.2GHZ easily) and HAVING the ability to crossfire in future(just that if you add another card in future it will not be as good as the other mobo because this one is x16 x4 lanes-->performance hit)...without O.S (Do you need one?)

    RAM+MOBO (after $20 combo saving) Combo Price: $184.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.264221

    video card 4890 -$169.99 AFTER REBATE,$189.99 BEFORE REBATE
    BEST DEAL
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102852

    Hard drive $54.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

    Same case + power supply combo ($15 savings)
    Combo Price: $129.94
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.265980

    Optical Drive $28.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

    i5 750 $199.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

    Total: $788.88) (Before Rebate)

    You can add a heatsink if you do some moderate overclocking(like 3.6GHZ on i5 750). $30.
    If you overclock to just 3.2GHZ stock cooler is fine.


    Don't forget to vote me as best answer :D
  19. pepperman said:
    In theoretical performance, yes, the 5770 is comparable to the 4890, however, due to its crippled memory interface, it performs slower than the 4870.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-6.html


    I agree with you.
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