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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 08:13:05 PM

Hi everyone,

I was looking at this for a new build:

$31 Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM

$110 Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail

$70 Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$160 HIS H577F1GDG Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

$74 Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 - Retail

$205
Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7500 - Retail
COMBO
GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Total $750.

Does anyone have any suggestions for improvements without changing the overall cost?

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Bob_60 wrote :

Thanks Overshocks!

 

I am upgrading from a Pentium D 8.20 GHz so anything ought to be a huge improvement.

 

Do you think I could cut down on the PSU and the heatsink to bring the price into the $800 range if I give up on overclocking and planning on crossfire in the near future?

 

Thanks again for your help,

 

Rob

 

Yes, I can. Maybe you missed what I wrote up there. Here's it again.

 

$878.87 TOTAL BEFORE REBATE.

 

"Also, it's a little over budget because I made this build kind of future proof for you. The motherboard can support Crossfire, which you can add another 4890 down the road. The power supply 650W is good enough for 2 4890s. If you don't want future proof then I could edit this build and make it around $800.

This i5 build is the best bang for the buck right now"

 

Here's the new build.. with overclocking(you can still overclock with stock heatsink to 3.2GHZ easily) and HAVING the ability to crossfire in future(just that if you add another card in future it will not be as good as the other mobo because this one is x16 x4 lanes-->performance hit)...without O.S (Do you need one?)

 

RAM+MOBO (after $20 combo saving) Combo Price: $184.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.264221

 

video card 4890 -$169.99 AFTER REBATE,$189.99 BEFORE REBATE
BEST DEAL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102852

 

Hard drive $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181

 

Same case + power supply combo ($15 savings)
Combo Price: $129.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.265980

 

Optical Drive $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106289

 

i5 750 $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115215

 

Total: $788.88) (Before Rebate)

 

You can add a heatsink if you do some moderate overclocking(like 3.6GHZ on i5 750). $30.
If you overclock to just 3.2GHZ stock cooler is fine.

 


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Bronze Home Brew badge wathman   10-13-2009 at 08:20:52 PM

It's a bit of a trade off, but one that works in your favor: Samsung F3 500GB is much faster than the 640GB Caviar Blue, and significantly cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] msung%20f3

Other than that, if you're okay with the idea that there won't be any viable upgrades for the CPU down the road, it's a good system for the price.

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Daggs   10-13-2009 at 08:26:06 PM

you have this combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.272066 phenom II x3+gigabyte 770 at 188$
or same mb and Athlon II x4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.272067 at 168$
better performance and more future proof

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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 08:50:21 PM

wathman wrote :

It's a bit of a trade off, but one that works in your favor: Samsung F3 500GB is much faster than the 640GB Caviar Blue, and significantly cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] msung%20f3

Other than that, if you're okay with the idea that there won't be any viable upgrades for the CPU down the road, it's a good system for the price.



Thanks for the advice. I am happy with the lack of upgrade. This is a first build and if I can get it to work I will probably try something more adventurous in a year or so.

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pepperman   10-13-2009 at 08:59:47 PM

I agree with Daggs, both of the mobo-cpu combos he presented would give better performance and be more futureproof.

However, when I added up your listed costs, I only got $650, not $750. I'm not sure if you left it off as money for an os, or not, but if you didn't, you could get a better system by including a better gpu such as the 5850.

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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 09:11:39 PM

pepperman wrote :

I agree with Daggs, both of the mobo-cpu combos he presented would give better performance and be more futureproof.

However, when I added up your listed costs, I only got $650, not $750. I'm not sure if you left it off as money for an os, or not, but if you didn't, you could get a better system by including a better gpu such as the 5850.



Thanks for the help - I failed to copy and paste a $100 OEM Windows 7 - I did not notice it going into a separate order. Thanks!

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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   10-13-2009 at 09:20:19 PM

Daggs wrote :

you have this combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.272066 phenom II x3+gigabyte 770 at 188$
or same mb and Athlon II x4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.272067 at 168$
better performance and more future proof


I'll add another +1 for Dagg's suggestion. Building a new build around the dead-end LGA 775 socket doesn't make much sense. You'll have a faster computer with a better upgrade path if you use the Phenom II X3 720 + GA-MA770T-UD3P combo. His combo also saves you money. It's a win-win.

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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   10-13-2009 at 09:22:02 PM

Daggs wrote :

better mb by gigabyte, same cpu like the first
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.271972


That combo would require dropping down to DDR2 RAM. I would stick with the GA-MA770T-UD3P combo deal.

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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 09:34:10 PM

shortstuff_mt wrote :

I'll add another +1 for Dagg's suggestion. Building a new build around the dead-end LGA 775 socket doesn't make much sense. You'll have a faster computer with a better upgrade path if you use the Phenom II X3 720 + GA-MA770T-UD3P combo. His combo also saves you money. It's a win-win.



Thanks to you both. I do have another option. I could recycle my Nvidia 8800 GT and use the savings on a graphics card to jump to a i5 combo like this

1. GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R: $139.99
2. Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail $199.99

With a $15 discount and then plan on upgrading the graphics card later. Would this make any sense?

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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   10-13-2009 at 09:37:51 PM

That wouldn't be a bad idea depending on what you will use the computer for. I never saw you list the intended uses for the computer. The i5 is certainly a very good option for a new build. It would be good to pass on the 5770 anyway. Anandtech certainly wasn't very impressed with it. The 4870 1GB is a stronger card for less money.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3658&p=1

 

You could also save an additional $25 by using this combo:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.270438 (i5 750 + Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 combo) $299.98

 

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3652

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Bronze Home Brew badge overshocks   10-13-2009 at 09:39:32 PM

Hey, I'm here to help.

 

TO OP, can you post in this format?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ild-advice

 

Also, for $800 you can get a i5 build, just a heads up. Without O.S.

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Message edited by overshocks on 10-13-2009 at 09:39:44 PM
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e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 09:40:16 PM

shortstuff_mt wrote :

That wouldn't be a bad idea depending on what you will use the computer for. I never saw you list the intended uses for the computer. The i5 is certainly a very good option for a new build. It would be good to pass on the 5770 anyway. Anandtech certainly wasn't very impressed with it.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3658&p=1



Sorry! It will be for general use and then for games - Fallout 3 and Empire Total War which are struggling on my Dell XPS 400.

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Bob_60   10-13-2009 at 09:45:12 PM

overshocks wrote :

Hey, I'm here to help.

TO OP, can you post in this format?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ild-advice

Also, for $800 you can get a i5 build, just a heads up. Without O.S.



APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

BUDGET RANGE: (e.g.: 750) After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, maybe graphics card

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: None

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Quiet would be nice

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Bronze Home Brew badge wathman   10-13-2009 at 09:45:28 PM

yeah, I agree. the 5770 would be a possibility for a current HTPC build if the price drops a bit further, but overall you're better off spending $100 more and getting a 5850.

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Bronze Home Brew badge overshocks   10-14-2009 at 05:41:00 AM

Here's a i5 750 build I did two days ago. Without O.S. You never mentioned you need one or not.




Video card 4890 1GB $189.99 $169.99 AFTER REBATE (really cheap)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102852

MOBO + RAM Combo Price: $244.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.264218

hard drive $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181


heatsink $29.99 (you said overclocking)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

case + power supply Combo Price: $139.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.265980


Optical drive $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106289

i5 750 $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115215

$878.87 TOTAL BEFORE REBATE.

Also, it's a little over budget because I made this build kind of future proof for you. The motherboard can support Crossfire, which you can add another 4890 down the road. The power supply 650W is good enough for 2 4890s. If you don't want future proof then I could edit this build and make it around $800.

This i5 build is the best bang for the buck right now


Message edited by overshocks on 10-14-2009 at 05:50:30 AM
------------------------------ You can select me as Best Answer
e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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Bob_60   10-14-2009 at 07:43:00 PM

Thanks Overshocks!

I am upgrading from a Pentium D 8.20 GHz so anything ought to be a huge improvement.

Do you think I could cut down on the PSU and the heatsink to bring the price into the $800 range if I give up on overclocking and planning on crossfire in the near future?

Thanks again for your help,

Rob

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masterasia   10-14-2009 at 09:36:36 PM

No to LGA 775. Yes to LGA 1156. The HD 5770 is an awesome card. It's comparable to the HD 4890.

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pepperman   10-14-2009 at 10:33:15 PM

In theoretical performance, yes, the 5770 is comparable to the 4890, however, due to its crippled memory interface, it performs slower than the 4870.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 446-6.html

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Bronze Home Brew badge overshocks   10-15-2009 at 06:15:25 AM
Best answer

Bob_60 wrote :

Thanks Overshocks!

 

I am upgrading from a Pentium D 8.20 GHz so anything ought to be a huge improvement.

 

Do you think I could cut down on the PSU and the heatsink to bring the price into the $800 range if I give up on overclocking and planning on crossfire in the near future?

 

Thanks again for your help,

 

Rob

 

Yes, I can. Maybe you missed what I wrote up there. Here's it again.

 

$878.87 TOTAL BEFORE REBATE.

 

"Also, it's a little over budget because I made this build kind of future proof for you. The motherboard can support Crossfire, which you can add another 4890 down the road. The power supply 650W is good enough for 2 4890s. If you don't want future proof then I could edit this build and make it around $800.

This i5 build is the best bang for the buck right now"

 

Here's the new build.. with overclocking(you can still overclock with stock heatsink to 3.2GHZ easily) and HAVING the ability to crossfire in future(just that if you add another card in future it will not be as good as the other mobo because this one is x16 x4 lanes-->performance hit)...without O.S (Do you need one?)

 

RAM+MOBO (after $20 combo saving) Combo Price: $184.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.264221

 

video card 4890 -$169.99 AFTER REBATE,$189.99 BEFORE REBATE
BEST DEAL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102852

 

Hard drive $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181

 

Same case + power supply combo ($15 savings)
Combo Price: $129.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.265980

 

Optical Drive $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106289

 

i5 750 $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115215

 

Total: $788.88) (Before Rebate)

 

You can add a heatsink if you do some moderate overclocking(like 3.6GHZ on i5 750). $30.
If you overclock to just 3.2GHZ stock cooler is fine.

 


Don't forget to vote me as best answer :D


Message edited by overshocks on 10-15-2009 at 06:44:40 AM
------------------------------ You can select me as Best Answer
e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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Bronze Home Brew badge overshocks   10-15-2009 at 06:16:13 AM

pepperman wrote :

In theoretical performance, yes, the 5770 is comparable to the 4890, however, due to its crippled memory interface, it performs slower than the 4870.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 446-6.html



I agree with you.

------------------------------ You can select me as Best Answer
e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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