Hello all! It's finally time for me to purchase my new system in a couple days so I figured I'd come in here for advice. I should note I already have ordered a hd5850 video card for 260ish, so that 1300 dollar range up there does NOT need a video card included.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Most likely this friday. This is going to be built for windows 7 next weekend. All parts need to be at my house and ready to build by friday, so I wanna order on friday to be on the safe side.
BUDGET RANGE: $1300 can give or take a few if needed
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, general usage (movies, tv, internet, etc), and I am probably going to start messing with video/photo editing at some point in the next few months.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers, OS, Possibly PSU? I will probably be getting a new one, but my current is an antec earthwatts 650w model ea-650
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg all the way
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: Gigabyte/asus mobo. Ram probably corsair or gskill. im fairly open to any suggestions though.
OVERCLOCKING: I will probably be doing some OC'ing, but nothing too major. Enough to get a nice boost though.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not right now, but considering getting a 2nd 5850 sometime down the road.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: I have a 19" 1280x1024, would like to get either a 1680x1050, or 1920x1080 for my main monitor.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I will be picking up a SSD in a couple months most likely. Just waiting a little bit more for it to mature and for prices to hopefully drop down a little more. I am currently trying to decide which is best for my needs, an i7 860 or 920. I have been running the pros and cons to each in my head nonstop the last couple weeks, so some input there would be awesome. Onto my current parts list!
Case-
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239
HDD-
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136283
Optical Drive-
LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136162
PSU- (If I dont stay with my current one)
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005
These will probably remain the same regardless of which cpu i get. total here is $430
Ok, now heres where I'm unsure. If I get the 860 it looks like this.
Mobo-
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128400
w/i7 860 cpu combo is 20 bucks off.
combo price = $440
Memory-
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231189 -$85
So total for i7 860 is approximately $975 not including a monitor. If possible, anything under 1300 is good for me since that can go towards the ssd without dipping into my savings account. I'm probably going to have to anyways, but every bit helps.
That's what I have so far. I need suggestions for monitor, and suggestions for the i7 920 since i have not done as much research there and am not really sure which parts to get. Thanks in advance for the help! I will check back tomorrow as often as i can
| bdjeff wrote : Hello all! It's finally time for me to purchase my new system in a couple days so I figured I'd come in here for advice. I should note I already have ordered a hd5850 video card for 260ish, so that 1300 dollar range up there does NOT need a video card included.
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For that budget I would recommend the i7 920 because you will be able to upgrade to a newer cpu at a later date if you choose. The i5 socket is going nowhere. The only reason not to get a 1366 socket would be if your on a tight budget.
The p55 motherboards only support x8 for sli/crossfire while the x58 supports x16.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.273296
(I'm sure that isn't the best deal you can find, but just to show its only $50 more than the 860)
I would switch to this hard drive. Same price, more storage, faster.
Samsung F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
For a monitor I would watch http://slickdeals.net , every couple days someone lists a really good deal on a monitor, but they don't stay up long..some only for an hour or less. A few days ago I got a dell 23 in with hdmi port and next day shipping for $143 including tax.
I do want to stick strictly to western digital for my hard drives. I should probably have added that in my parts preference spot there. Also, I'm not concerned about "futureproofing" sockets. When I upgrade I generally always buy new everything. So the actual socket matters little to me. This will last me easily 3-4 years with maybe a couple upgrades here and there along the way. I'm still using my opty 165 i built like 4 years ago as my current system
EDIT: and yea, i also have been checking out slickdeals and techbargains when i remember to. if i can find something up there I will try to snag it, but if not id like a fallback option too.
| bdjeff wrote : I do want to stick strictly to western digital for my hard drives. I should probably have added that in my parts preference spot there. Also, I'm not concerned about "futureproofing" sockets. When I upgrade I generally always buy new everything. So the actual socket matters little to me. This will last me easily 3-4 years with maybe a couple upgrades here and there along the way. I'm still using my opty 165 i built like 4 years ago as my current system |
Ok, The i7 920 should be able to hit a higher stable overclock with lower voltages.
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/s [...] =3634&p=19
You also said you might want to crossfire later down the line, so an x58 board would be the best option since it supports x16 on both PCI-E slots.
http://www.ewiz.com/shopcart.php?a [...] 20I7%20920
I know you said you usually build a whole new computer down the line..but still 6-8 core cpus will still be on 1366 along with 32nm i9.
Ok say I do build up a 920 system. Any suggestions for mobo and ram for it? I've done lots of research into the pros and cons of each, but i was pretty sure I was getting the 860 up until a week ago. I don't want to spend all that 1300 if possible as I'd like some of that to go to an ssd down the road. It works out to be around 100-150 higher for the 920 chipset right?
I know a good way you can save $ and still get an i7.
Check and see if you live near a Micro Center, they sell the i7 for $199.99, but it's walk-in only purchase.
Also, for ram check out any Frys store, you can get Corsair Dominator 6GB for $139.99, $60 cheaper than newegg. Or otherwise the Corsair XMP 1600 is on newegg for $120 after rebates.
For a good value MOBO check out the AsRock that's only $169.99 or any of the Gigabytes on newegg that range from $179.99-$219.99. Since you aren't extreme OCing and want crossfire in future either should be very good.
Monitor wise check out the 24" Asus on newegg. It is 1920 resolution and 1080p, also 2ms is sweet response for gaming. Plus, it's awesome value at a price of $219.99.
If you can get that i7 and one of these mobos total cost is around $400 for CPU and mobo, $80 cheaper than that build you have posted for the 860.
Hope that helps!
Btw, I'm waiting on purchasing a SSD too :]. If you want go check out my post under new builds. Very similar to yours, mine may be a bit pricy overall but the discussions in there have been very good.
just took a look... not near a microcenter store
ive seen their deals all the time... definitely do wish i was close to one.
get the 640gb wester digital hd. it's faster than the 750.
Yeah, I was originally going to go with the 640gb but say the 750 for 5 bucks more so i figured why not? i should add its only being used as a storage drive. Im using my current OS drive to install win7 on it until I pick up my ssd. Any other comments/suggestions so far? Need to place my order tomorrow... am leaning in the direction of the 920 right now, but need some mobo/ram suggestions for it
Platter size is a main determinant of HDD performance and the Spinpoint F3s have 500gb platters, whereas the 750GB WD has 250GB platters. So, the WDs (yesterday's tech) will be significantly slower.
These would work well
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157163
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227381
ill probably just stick with the WD 640 then. Im gonna end up having well over a terabyte with that, my current OS drive and a future ssd anyways. for mobo's id like to stick to gigabyte or asus.. ive heard some good stuff on that asrock board, but idk if im buying an expensive cpu, i dont want to just throw it in a budget board. any board suggestions for around 200 or so?
So yeah... idk, I've been doing more reading into everything and I'm just not sold that the 920 is for me. Like I said, I don't particularly care about future proofing for the socket. I'll have this long enough that more than likely, they will be beyond even the 6/8 core cpu for lga1366 and onto something else. The two x16 bandwidth advantage of 920 doesn't mean much to me, as the actual performance difference between sli/crossfire really isnt that much between 2x16 or 2x8. And I probably won't crossfire the 5850 for a while, if I even do.
It's more expensive overall too, and I'm still trying to fit in a new monitor and have some cash left over for a ssd in a couple months. I just don't think the 920 advantages are really worth the extra cost for me, even if it is only 100 bucks. Gah... it's so hard for me to make up my mind on this, and i need to order tomorrow lol
Any input on the case and psu? id really like to order tomorrow so every bit of input helps me here
Both your current PSU and the Corsair one would work fine if the old Antec is not too old. Very nice case.
Yeah, I think I'm going to just use my current PSU for now. I think it should be more than ok for what I'm doing. If I run into any problems, I can always just get another one. I think that this is actually the antec that I'm currently using here..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371015
And the more I think about it, the more I think I'm just going to go with the 860. While I do have some room in my budget, I want to save as much as I can. I think that for what I'm using my computer for the 920 will give me no advantages based on the extra cost. Some of which I can put into my SSD in a month or two as well
Ok, I think I'm pretty close to finalizing my purchase here. I just need to find a good cpu fan for the 1156. There doesn't seem to be very many out there at all... any suggestions?
| bdjeff wrote : Ok, I think I'm pretty close to finalizing my purchase here. I just need to find a good cpu fan for the 1156. There doesn't seem to be very many out there at all... any suggestions? |
Scythe S-FLEX 1600 rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185006
Scythe S-FLEX 1900 rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185065
not case fan, cpu fan/cooler
This is a great one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065
Review:
http://www.frostytech.com/articlev [...] 206&page=5
Hah, I was just reading a review on that one. i just wasnt too sure on the whole installation thing... looks like its kind of a pain in the ass. all the cpu coolers ive had up till now have been pretty simple to put in. but i havent used anything too crazy at the same time either.
| jbakerlent wrote : This is a great one:
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Actually bought that one for my brothers i5 last week. Good cooler for a great price.
allright, i guess i will grab that cooler. hopefully its not too annoying to install... although my case has the cpu backplate opening so that should help a bunch
ok, possible final parts listing to order tomorrow.
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136319
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115214
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065
LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136162
MOBO/RAM combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.264218
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Total cost = 889
Leaves me some room to pick out a monitor whenever I can find a good deal, and also leaves some for an ssd in a couple months. Thoughts? Anything I should maybe change?
Use coupon code EMCHDD10C for newegg.com on the hd, it will take %10 off.
If you have a micro center near you, I would definitely go there to buy the i7 920 as it is only $199 + tax. That is, if you were still thinking of buying the 920.
Word, thanks for the promo code. and no, nearest microcenter is at least 3-4 hours away. would end up spending more money on gas and tax if i were to go down there. One thing I'm unsure about with that cooler is the bottom where it makes contact with the cpu. do i need to put a little more thermal paste than usual to make sure i get good contact cuz of the way the pipes on that are? i'm pretty much ready to order now... wouldnt mind another look by someone
looked around a bit, and im not sure that the cpu cooler is gonna fit in my fan. watched a video on youtube where it barely fits into an antec 902 which is about .43" wider than the case im getting... so im not too sure if i should be getting that cooler now =x
i take that back... after looking around a bunch, found a thread on another forum where a guy built a very similar build to mine. same case, almost same motherboard, same cpu cooler, and it managed to fit in just fine. So i guess i will go with the hyper 212+ afterall. Im thinking I should pick up a 2nd 120mm fan for a push-pull config though...
how does this look for a monitor? asus 24" 1080p 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236049
for 220
pulling the trigger on everything but the monitor. next weekend is going to be a good one
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