Also as a side note to the reply below it has been several years since I have actually bought seperate components and built a PC which is why I am seeking help here on the forums. Last time I did this was back in the P2 450mhz days. Since then I was also given a PC or came into one that was better then the one I had and was suitable for my requirements.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Watching movies, gaming, surfing the Internet
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, 22" widescreen monitor
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com (Unless anyone can recommend another great site to order parts
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States
PARTS PREFERENCES: Would like to use an Intel processor, preferably quad core and 64-bit. (Unless AMD fan boys can assure me no compatibility issues. Also 32-bit is acceptable as an option). Also would like to run an NVIDIA based video card.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: I do not recall the specific resolution that my monitor will support, but I know I would at least like to be able to achieve 1600x1200 if possible.
ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS: I am also considering using this particular NIC (http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/killer-nic-m1-comparison/);
Also is the NVIDIA® PhysX technology worth it???
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This system is being build for several reasons. The first and foremost is to play games like World of Warcraft (all expansions), Starcraft II, and Diablo III; however the catch is that I want to be able to play those games smoothly with all the settings (graphics, sound, physics) turned up to their max. I also plan to use this PC to run dynamips if possible thus the reason I was looking for multiple cores. Other then that I am sure I will be doing the typical surfing the Internet, downloading of files/content, etc. If you have any more questions...please let me know.
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Message edited by dic2965 on 10-15-2009 at 07:31:35 PM
I suggest you get the AMD athlon II X4 cheapest edition + a HD4770 or possibly a HD5750. Get 4 gb of RAM, also get the cheapest mobo you can find. Plug in a nice HDD (500 gb or so). Get a decent antec case with psu (430 earthswatt). You should be somewhere below your limit.
Here is what I was able to piece together thus far based on this reply:
XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
(Even though not specifically stated I am doing to assume this is OpenGL 3.0, please confirm or deny)
Item #: N82E16814150448
Yes I was leary of Biostar as well. Had not decided on a HDD option yet. Was still debating on what to run HDD wise. I take it that Asus and Gigabyte are still top tier mobo manufacturers? I am trying to remember if I have had good experience with MSI or not.
Thus far the rig is price at just over $500.00 through newegg.com
Dont listen to fan boys who will bitch and moan about the PSU, memory or mobo not being adequate. This nets you i5 + hd5750 for the smallest price without resorting to indecent brands.
GRAND TOTAL (with rebates) = $730.91 the remaining $70.00 could be used for shipping
I don't care what anyone says, this will handle World of Warcraft and many other games for a couple years. Granted that LGA 775 is a dead socket, but you can still throw in a Core 2 Quad in the future and Crossfire if need be.
Message edited by jonpaul37 on 10-15-2009 at 09:10:05 PM
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Some of the advised here seems a little short sighted and incomplete.
First, you've listed you want multi card GPU options, but no one has offered up a PSU that can accomidate that. Even the 5750 requires 600w to CF. The 550w corsair could probably get the job done, but still taking a chance.
Suggesting a DDR2 system for a new build is an extremely bad idea for your budget as it leaves upgrade options in 2-3 years virtually non existant, much like a socket 775 platform. Yes, you could add a quad in a few years, but that's like telling someone to buy new a Pentium D right now. Doesn't make sense.
Also, everyone has overlooked the expense of the OS. If you are going to go linux, great, but then ATI doesn't offer up drivers for linux, so everyone above needs to either offer a Nvidia GPU or ATI/Windows OS. The build below does windows/ATI which eliminates linux as a gaming platform. If you did go with Linux as the only OS, then the build will look completely different as the i5/Nvidia could be worked in there instead.
I've worked in the 5770 over the 5750, a PSU capable of CF, and higher end quad core (as AMD goes.) The only thing I would have liked to be able to add would have been an aftermarket cooler and upgrade to the 955 for easier upgrade, but that would add close to another $50.
Final thought, if you're not building for a month or two, there will be a lot of holiday sales that can change the field and still get the i5 in there. If its a while before you buy, I'd make a new thread then and get a current snapshot of the retail market.
Thank you everyone for the replies. I also would like to thank you for providing links to a CD/DVD drive as I had not given that any thoughts at all. In terms of a multi GPU option I stated that as a maybe because its a would be nice and cool feature, but a) not even sure if I would take full advantage of it b) its not a core requirement such as some of the features I requested.
In terms of an OS I did state that I would like the possiblity of using Ubuntu Linux if there is the proper driver support out there in the market. I currently have a legal copy of Windows XP and could/would consider reusing it as again 32-bit would probably support my daily computer activities. I am not sure if there is a real necessity for a 64-bit processor nor am I even aware of all the 64-bit supported applications on the market. I do plan to steer clear of Windows Vista if at all possible, however Windows 7 does intrigue me, but not sure if its worth all the fuse. Was going to wait until it was out for a few months first.
Some of the advised here seems a little short sighted and incomplete.
First, you've listed you want multi card GPU options, but no one has offered up a PSU that can accomidate that. Even the 5750 requires 600w to CF. The 550w corsair could probably get the job done, but still taking a chance.
Suggesting a DDR2 system for a new build is an extremely bad idea for your budget as it leaves upgrade options in 2-3 years virtually non existant, much like a socket 775 platform. Yes, you could add a quad in a few years, but that's like telling someone to buy new a Pentium D right now. Doesn't make sense.
Also, everyone has overlooked the expense of the OS. If you are going to go linux, great, but then ATI doesn't offer up drivers for linux, so everyone above needs to either offer a Nvidia GPU or ATI/Windows OS. The build below does windows/ATI which eliminates linux as a gaming platform. If you did go with Linux as the only OS, then the build will look completely different as the i5/Nvidia could be worked in there instead.
I've worked in the 5770 over the 5750, a PSU capable of CF, and higher end quad core (as AMD goes.) The only thing I would have liked to be able to add would have been an aftermarket cooler and upgrade to the 955 for easier upgrade, but that would add close to another $50.
Final thought, if you're not building for a month or two, there will be a lot of holiday sales that can change the field and still get the i5 in there. If its a while before you buy, I'd make a new thread then and get a current snapshot of the retail market.
I sincerely appreciate your help on the forums and like the build that you put together best. The only caveat I wonder about is NVIDIA vs ATI (only because of problems I have experienced in the past)
Okay, lets try it this way then, leaving all your options open, this will be a Nvidia/SLI setup with a PSU that can handle it. If you don't want those options, other parts can be placed in instead and lower the cost like a single x16 mobo and 500w+ PSU. Then upgrade something somewhere else easy enough, or just save the money.
As far as the OS goes, since you have XP, use that until you decide if you want to do Win7. I'm considering that outside the scope of this budget, so you'll have to find to money later, or as above, cut back on some parts to make room for it.
All CPUs ar 64bit now. Its just the software that's not taking advantage of it.
This gives you the Linux option, SLI option, and makes budget (close.) ATI can be used for linux, but not as well as nvidia from what I've read. If you don't want the super GPU options, then the ud3r mobo can be plugged in to save $30 and a lower cost PSU, like the corsair 550w (saves $15) or an OCZ 500w+ (saves $35+)
Message edited by skora on 10-16-2009 at 10:50:28 PM