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October 15, 2009 10:52:30 PM

First, thanks for taking the time to look at this, I appreciate it immensely, given the countless other posts on here! First time builder, but long time computer enthusiast, and looking to finally take that next step, given I now have some money to spare, in building a computer from scratch. Current Desktop, as you will see, is about 5 years old, mostly because I have been going the laptop route for portability, but at this point, laptops alone cannot handle what I want to do when it comes down to speed and task handling.

I'd like to make the purchase sometime in the next few weeks preferably, unless advised otherwise

Essentially, I have a 5 year old 1gb AMD athalon 64, and am looking to make something capable of decent gaming, future upgrade ability, and with the ability to do decent audio/video editing (though I assume anything will be much at this than my old system, love it as I do). It would be nice to have some basic HTPC capabilities, IE to watch movies and tv on in the future if I nab a HDTV/LCD or a TV tuner, but essentially, productivity is the most important, followed by media ability.

As a note, I used the Guide to picking parts and best parts guide to aid in my choices, so hopefully no duds listed below, perhaps just some "not as good as they can be" items!

I am starting from scratch, so while I am focusing on the parts I have included, recommendations for any periphs (Ie screens, keyboards, etc.) would be appreciated as well. I plan to keep the computer in a back room, which is furnished in a way that I can use it as a comp, or if I got a decent screen, a media center around the couch, just in case that gives you any extra useful info.

Big Fan of Newegg, and parts I have listed all come from there, but open to additional resources.

I prefer AMD, mostly because it has always been good to me, and I like to support any competition that can help drive prices down, myself. Plus, I don't PERSONALLY think I need to spend the extra buck to get a little more bang, but again, let me know if what I am looking for in a computer is better served with Intel.

Most likely overclocking once I learn more about it, basically, I love computers, but this is my first dive into building, so I am learning as I go!

So, here goes...First off, tossed between some mother board options, as there are some nice bundles at Newegg...

Bundle one = AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz and a ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

***Note - Definitely getting a Video Card, just heard on board can be a nice "extra" to the card...Let me know how true that is

OR...

Bundle two = AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz and a GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

***Note - selected because I heard FX is much better/faster, again, let me know...

Now, the other things, besides the Video card, I am pretty sure on, just looking for opinion...

Memory - OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Optical Drive - PLEXTOR 24X DVD/CD Writer Black SATA Model PX-880SA LightScribe Support

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HD and Case Bundle - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case and a Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Which Leaves the Video Card, which I was debating between the Radeon 4770 like this one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or a 4850/70 like the following...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

All in all, i want a card that will perform pretty well for a while, that isn't too expensive. That Build listed varies between about $800 and $900 I think, and I would like to keep it roughly around there unless you can see a reason otherwise. I also choose the 955 over the 965, simply because the $60 or so price difference for what I heard wasn't much of a performance gain. Also, given I do music editing a bit, is the on board audio good enough, or should I dable with a card?

Feel free to suggest other mobo's/etc as well, open to any suggestions!

Once again, thanks for all the help before hand, and ANY TIPS at all or other places to look to learn more would be greatly appreciated!

- C

October 15, 2009 11:03:45 PM

Go for the first combo with the 790GX board, the onboard graphics wont help you out at all but its cheaper than the FX board which doesnt provide an advantage to single chip cards as they arent saturating 8x anyway, not even the 5850 can.

You may want to swap the RAM for this, its slightly more but the tighter timings and lower voltages will let it perform better, run cooler, and let you get even more out of them when you decide to OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For gaming on an HD screen a 4870 is better suited than a 4850 or 4770, however a 4890 is a better choice for it as it takes a fair bit of GPU power for an HD monitor.
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October 15, 2009 11:44:58 PM

hunter315 said:
Go for the first combo with the 790GX board, the onboard graphics wont help you out at all but its cheaper than the FX board which doesnt provide an advantage to single chip cards as they arent saturating 8x anyway, not even the 5850 can.

You may want to swap the RAM for this, its slightly more but the tighter timings and lower voltages will let it perform better, run cooler, and let you get even more out of them when you decide to OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For gaming on an HD screen a 4870 is better suited than a 4850 or 4770, however a 4890 is a better choice for it as it takes a fair bit of GPU power for an HD monitor.



Thanks for the input, appreciated! As far as the card goes, would you recommend the same for a monitor like the Samsung 22" LCD/Hd Screen at 1680 x 1050 res it's at? That's the one I was considering FOR NOW until I upgrade later to a nicer tv screen, unless I can find a good one on the not so expensive side now, and at that point, maybe dual card it or upgrade that as well.

http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-De...
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October 16, 2009 3:30:33 AM

Just as an update, what I am thinking of sofar (with the exchanged memory for OCZ to the G.Skill, but still open to any and all suggestions!)

PLEXTOR 24X DVD/CD Writer Black SATA Model PX-880SA LightScribe Support - $44.99

XFX HD-487A-ZWFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $144.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - $109.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - $89.99



COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5 - $99.98 for Combo Case and HD


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - $303.99 for Combo MB and CPU

Subtotal: $793.93

Would probably still need a monitor/LCD HDTV as well, so feel free to make suggestions on that too!
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