Is NVIDIA doomed?

If you have been to CPUs and Components in the last month, you knew this would come eventually.

/Begin parody thread #3

Sony are going to take over and as they have the highest moral and ethical standard known this will be the best thing to happen to the world of computers since the first beta of Vista.

He never would.

The same goes for Fuad and his ATI relation

And it will need its own nuclear power plant.

again parodied, and badtrip was saying that i posted immature stuff

so back to my idea

Nvidia aren't doomed, only the mainstream gfx but will stay alive on the high end section of gfx card

What nVidia does do well is SLI, the scaling is so much better (from benchmarks I've seen) than CrossFire.

For low end, I was amazed at what I got from my little 9400GT. I bought it because it was the cheapest available at the time, and it certainly out-performed my expectations of a cheap card! (Until I forgot to plug the fan in).

But when I spent some money, I went straight over to the ATi camp.

Edit: what pisses me off though, is how much power a lot of these cards use at idle. My 9550 ran Windows Aero fine, and it had a baby heatsink and the fan had died, so it was passively cooled by a piece of metal with almost no fins on it (fins are so small I'd call them grooves). I was glad to see the 58x0's to drop their idle power, its totally unnessecary, and while it seems stupid, if the GT300 has really low (like better than 58x0 series) idle usage, I will actually get that.

NVIDIA have shown games the window. 2017 is the year of the ExaScale Machine!

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7250

How much does a 5870 sell for and what's the profit margin per unit? ...nvm.

I was talking about the performance. From my guesstimates a 5870 sells for 200$/unit profit. I know that nVidia can kiss ### and get profit even from stone but sometimes these things just get ridiculous.

I can only assume that they are going to be running CUDA based apps so the 5870 and Cypress won't be much use. And I also have my doubts on your 200$ profit per unit guesstimate.

Not doomed no, its just that for this round the other team turned out to be a bit good so they have taken their ball back home for tea and wont be coming out after

Im sure we will see them back and compedative but not for a couple of quarters or so.

Mactronix

Does that mean it's looking likely that ATI will be our only gaming graphics company? Has nforce died as well or did nvidia stop making boards along time ago. is this the whole company that's going downhill or have they just left the gaming market and going for something else? They can't leave hardware for ever? Oh yeah, but then what's the point in making nforce boards if there are no new appealing cards to sell lol. Does anyone know if any other company will step in and compete with ATI? I don't think it will be likely if NVIDIA loses out because no one has experience with making good grapihcs other than ATI and Nvidia. All that has to happen is for someone to buy the company or to massively invest in NVIDIA's redevelopment of their new cards. So that first link you sent, is it actually saying that NVIDIA were actually planning to make another gaming card? but the tests failed? Maybe just bad luck, or ATI have been making very clever calculated decissions, and have caught NVIDIA's weakpoint. Better to stay under and apeal to more people, the mainstream market. And then let NVIDIA eventually die then ATI can go all out extreme, since they probably have the potential anyway to make more powerful graphic cards than nvidia.

HAHAHA. nice one.
maybe when NVIDIA does permanently cut off. We can see ATI improving their crossfire x scaling performance and driver performance as well. Since they should be recieving more money. But then lets hope they don't put prices up riduculously high. They realy really shouldn't because they'd have no competetion ultimately, they'd still greatly profit without having to raise prices. Old NVIDIA cards will completely utterly die out in time.
Possibly could AMD processors benefit from this too? Architectural advancements because of more funding, could lead to Intel being undercut as well. That's in the very long run though. I wonder if amd and ati share their profits, which means amd can switch at anytime investing more in graphics or processing.

Well rumours are that price are going up by $20 on the 5800 cards.

that's insignificant. i thought they were going to do something stupid like add another 200 pounds onto their cards lol. £400 for 5850 lol. People are talking about nvidia gtx 395. I don't think it will come out, by the time they're just about done with it, they've made an all out gamble they find themselves in debt lol or bust. Just as long as ATI don't do anything stupid like add too much to the price tag then there should be hopefully no worries with NVIDIA going downhill. but i don't dislike nvidia and am quite unhappy how they've just left like that lol.

Nvidia is not abandoning the gaming sector, that is absolutely ridiculous. Its preposterous to say that Nvidia would just hand over the whole GPU market to Ati when they have been leading it for the past decade.

Abandon? Probably not. Shift focus away from? Absolutely.

What else are they going to focus on? Graphics are their bread and butter.

i know what you mean. And also the pricing thing. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. If nvidia doesn't come out with anything to compete with ati by the start of next year. i'll assume that it has left gaming for good. Or that it's waiting to reawaken again. In spring or summer next year lol.

don't worry. ati can't sit and relax yet. the new era for S3 and matrox has come

I know Nvidia is trying to hype up this "GPGPU" that can take some load off the CPU by processing data that would normally be going to the CPU on the GPU. But I seriously doubt this is going to cut into graphics processing power.

Lol. 20$ is about equal with going to the cinema and buying popcorn with your girlfriend.

Or one trip plus 30 seconds of lending your credit card to your girlfriend?

Hmm, better say 10 sec of your girlfriend with your credit card in a shoe store

No price rise or cut is insignificant it all shows a trend to how the market is going. ATI are a company same as Nvidia is so i fully expect them to milk the market for whatever it will stomach. If prices do go up and people still buy the cards then next month it will go up again etc.... untill people stop buying at which point they will drop it about 20% of the total price hike, as consumers tend to have as a whole a very bad memory people will be going "Wow look at the deal on that" and start buying again.
With Nvidia having its loyal fan base i would have thought that ATI would have gone for the throat a bit more and once finding there was to be no competition this round drop the price. Just for a while. There can be no doubt that they could if they wanted to and in doing so could win over some market share. With price rises sure they are making money but expanding the client base is also important in business. I realise that as long as the bean counters are in control that type of thinking wont get a look in but there it is.

Mactronix