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January 2, 2010 2:59:42 AM

Hey y'all this is my first post and I need a bit of help making sure all the parts I picked out for my new build are ok. It's been a while since my last build. (AMD athlon xp 1700+ lol...) I've decided on a core i7 pc and am not really as sharp with what's compatible but I think I got most of it right. Hopefully I can get a 2nd opinion..

1) intel core i7 920 2.66Ghz

2) EVGA E758-A1 socket 1366 X58
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) HIS Radeon HD 5850

4) G.SKILL 6GB ( 3 x 2GB ) DDR3 1600 ( PC3 12800 )
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


5) CORSAIR CMPSU-750tx 750W SLi and Crossfire ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6) Antec Three Hundred ATX mid tower computer case.


Eveything else like hard drive cd rom etc is your standard typical one you'll see on most builds. Anyway... If anyone sees anything wrong here or has their two cents to put in please do cause I am getting ready to order. Thanks!

-Andrew

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January 2, 2010 3:20:43 AM

all looks good.

what will be your primary useage?

personally, i would go socket 1156 over 1366, simply due to the on die controllers giving it the edgte for gaming.

the PSU is overkill. do you plan on adding another GPU at some point? if so, then good futureproofing. otherwise, too much.

but yes, very solid build.
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January 2, 2010 3:45:19 AM

welshmousepk said:
all looks good.

what will be your primary useage?

personally, i would go socket 1156 over 1366, simply due to the on die controllers giving it the edgte for gaming.

the PSU is overkill. do you plan on adding another GPU at some point? if so, then good futureproofing. otherwise, too much.

but yes, very solid build.


+1

I agree, very solid build.
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January 2, 2010 4:03:25 AM

Unless you are going to be gaming as soon as your system is up and running, I would get a cheaper video card right now, then wait to see what the deal is with pricing when Nvidia release their next gen.
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January 2, 2010 4:45:30 AM

Nvidia's next gen has disappeared over the horizon with a recent sunset. And the land of extended dark prevails. No improvement in site as of a couple days ago. Could be a long wait.

The AMD/ATI 5850 is a great card. DirectX 11 capable. And not far off the 5870. for a better price.

Agree that 700+watts PSU is overkill - but it would provide great stability with the PSU running in the peak efficiency zone, and would allow optional xFire in future; so why not. Besides I tend to think that i7 uses more power than spintel lets on anyway. (the socalled uncore) (I don't believe is included in TDP)

And, as a devout supporter of AMD; it's not too late to consider a PhenomII 965 instead on an MSI FX GD70 - but that's off topic, huh.

Enjoy.
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January 2, 2010 4:58:31 AM

Good choices and I'd certainly go with EVGA over Asus.

If you find some extra funds lying around you could really make it fly with an SSD. :D 

Seems to be a lot of i5 fans on here but I think i7 is better future proofing at least in so far as one can future proof where PC parts are concerned and I know I'm certainly thankful I have Hyper Threading. :) 
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January 2, 2010 5:02:19 AM

lonewolf, remember you can get i7's on lga 1156 though ;) 

1366 was always desgined as a server platform. they are still very powerful and uisefull systems. but the on die controllers of 1156 procs give them an edge in gaming. for me, that makes them better. i dont need triple chanel ram, i just need more FPS. always moar FPS!

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January 2, 2010 5:13:35 AM

welshmousepk said:
lonewolf, remember you can get i7's on lga 1156 though ;) 

1366 was always desgined as a server platform. they are still very powerful and uisefull systems. but the on die controllers of 1156 procs give them an edge in gaming. for me, that makes them better. i dont need triple chanel ram, i just need more FPS. always moar FPS!



True but those aren't real i7's. :lol: 

LGA 1366 all the way. I've got my name on one of those Gulftowns. :D 
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January 2, 2010 5:27:13 AM

I would go with a full tower case HALF 932 just to save you the headache of cable management + while installing stuff is a pain in the arse with small cases
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January 2, 2010 6:39:12 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Good choices and I'd certainly go with EVGA over Asus.

If you find some extra funds lying around you could really make it fly with an SSD. :D 

Seems to be a lot of i5 fans on here but I think i7 is better future proofing at least in so far as one can future proof where PC parts are concerned and I know I'm certainly thankful I have Hyper Threading. :) 

LGA1366 surely guaranties you a i7-980X upgrade which will cost $999USD.

LGA1366 offers you double 16x PCIE which shows no noticeable difference with any GFX but HD5970 with approximately $80 premium for MB alone.

LGA1366 offers you the true i7 that loses to the fake one in almost every apps including games.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=364...
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January 2, 2010 6:42:37 AM

Yeah and when new products are released they are always priced in the stratosphere and then they come down if you're patient.

What else is new? :) 
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January 2, 2010 6:50:33 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Yeah and when new products are released they are always priced in the stratosphere and then they come down if you're patient.

What else is new? :) 

Sure! Just like i7-975 and other extreme editions, the price has dropped IMMENSELY to $970.
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January 2, 2010 7:02:00 AM

andy5174 said:
Sure! Just like i7-975 and other extreme editions, the price has dropped IMMENSELY to $970.



Might work a little better if you use a realistic comparison.

i7 is still current so what do you expect?

You want to see the prices come down wait for the next hot item to be released like always.

Look at the Q9650's for example I can get one of those now for around three hundred bucks and not so far back they were a grand in my neck of the woods with some places up around eleven hundred even.

Your 1156 board isn't going to do you any good in so far as Gulftown goes but if that's what floats your boat it's fine by me just don't scoff at people trying to look a bit ahead that may not think the same as you.

I may have had to shell out a few more bucks for a 1366 board but at least I won't be out the cost of a new board to take advantage of Gulftown if I so choose.
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January 2, 2010 7:05:58 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Might work a little better if you use a realistic comparison.

i7 is still current so what do you expect?

You want to see the prices come down wait for the next hot item to be released like always.

Look at the Q9650's for example I can get one of those now for around three hundred bucks and not so far back they were a grand in my neck of the woods with some places up around eleven hundred even.

Your 1156 board isn't going to do you any good in so far as Gulftown goes but if that's what floats your boat it's fine by me just don't scoff at people trying to look a bit ahead that may not think the same as you.

I may have had to shell out a few more bucks for a 1366 board but at least I won't be out the cost of a new board to take advantage of Gulftown if I so choose.

The realistic comparison is that LGA1156 i7 performs better for less cost.

It might work better for you with a new brain.
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January 2, 2010 7:08:20 AM

By the time Gulftown drops to the level you can afford, your LGA1366 i7 board will be extremely outdated.

That's the future proof you are talking about.

Clever boy.
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January 2, 2010 7:17:37 AM

andy5174 said:
By the time Gulftown drops to the level you can afford, your i7 board is extremely outdated. Clever boy.



Clever enough to not get sucked in by every chart and BS performance graph posted on the internet that rarely ever compares to real world use.

Put your 1156 to work crunching a DC project and I'll pit my 1366 against it and we'll see whose machine is more productive.

Maybe you ought to read this forum instead of anandtech. :p 



http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265293-28-with-1156-s...







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January 2, 2010 7:23:55 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Clever enough to not get sucked in by every chart and BS performance graph posted on the internet that rarely ever compares to real world use.

Put your 1156 to work crunching a DC project and I'll pit my 1366 against it and we'll see whose machine is more productive.

Maybe you ought to read this forum instead of anandtech. :p 



http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265293-28-with-1156-s...

Noob.

Instead of trusting a specialist who did a lot of benchmark, you trust a person talks in a few sentences.

You are just showing how ignorant you are.
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January 2, 2010 7:24:26 AM

Check out the Asus p6t Kinda nice
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January 2, 2010 7:37:17 AM

andy5174 said:
Noob.

Instead of trusting a specialist who did a lot of benchmark, you trust a person talks in a few sentence.



Probably been putting PC's together longer than you but if calling me a noob makes you feel superior have at it.

I put my trust in real world results and use every one of my dozen PC's to it's full potential an important part of which is Hyper Threading so it's really a bit presumptuous of you to figure a person made a bad decision simply because it goes against your tight wad nature.

I'm guessing you think yourself some sort of "specialist" too. NOT!





Have to remind myself to leave the troll food at home tomorrow.
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January 2, 2010 7:43:02 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Probably been putting PC's together longer than you but if calling me a noob makes you feel superior have at it.

I put my trust in real world results and use every one of my dozen PC's to it's full potential an important part of which is Hyper Threading so it's really a bit presumptuous of you to figure a person made a bad decision simply because it goes against your tight wad nature.

I'm guessing you think yourself some sort of "specialist" too. NOT!





Have to remind myself to leave the troll food at home tomorrow.


Are you calling yourself who considers a few sentences as a more REALISTIC result than a few sets of benchmark an experienced person? LMAO

Why didn’t you get an i7-975 instead if you are soooooooooo rich?!

BTW, I don't need to be a specialist to be able to judge what the best is for the money. All I need is NOT being a noob troll like you.

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January 2, 2010 8:06:04 AM

It is such a shame if you have longer experience than me in building PCs.
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January 2, 2010 8:10:58 AM

andy5174 said:
Are you calling yourself who treats a few sentences as a more realistic result than a few sets of benchmark an experienced person ?

LMAO


Apparently they aren't too discriminating as to what kind of puffed up trolls they let run around in here.


Unlike you I actually run computers and see how they perform on an ongoing basis rather than being a self absorbed wannabe mesmerized by graphs and charts who feels important when posting condescending tripe.


Your claim of better performance is biased and BS depending on ones definition of performance and yours being quite loose.

The internet is a great source of info however if one actually works hands on with enough components after a while you come to realize that many of the so called reviews and findings by specialists aren't necessarily all "that" and need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Some of us choose to look at the whole picture whilst others are focused only on the shiny frame.


The only thing you're an expert at is flaming from what I can see so have at it tool I'm done in this thread.
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January 2, 2010 8:13:53 AM

andy5174 said:
It is such a shame if you have longer experience than me in building PCs.



At least I can spell in English. Something you might look into with all the time you have to flame.
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January 2, 2010 8:17:37 AM

LoneWolf_53 said:
At least I can spell in English. Something you might look into with all the time you have to flame.

Most peoples with normal brains can judge who is the noob here.

Done with talking to you, ignorant noob.

BTW, AMD fanboy groups also talk based on sentences ignoring benchmarks which suits you a lot. You really should join them!
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January 2, 2010 1:51:53 PM

Hey guys wow thanks for all the input for my build it really helps. Anyway this will def be for gaming. Just got a new 5 series samsung 40'' and I'm planin on hooking this baby up to it to game on that's why I wanted the 5850 and for the DX11 ( I pray sc2 and diablo3 will have it in some way ).

I have been looking at the i5 also but the i7 is in my budget and I fell in love with it's stats back when it came out and have had my eyes set on it ever since.

As for the mobo I usually do go with ASUS but I just picked the evga cause of the reviews. You guys think the p6t better? If anyone has personal experience with either that'd be geat. I'm aldo plannin on gettin an aftermarket cooler and maybe OCin to around 3.8 if I can.

But for the main queston again it's def for gaming. Bye bye ps3
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January 2, 2010 2:18:32 PM



WR
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January 2, 2010 5:52:34 PM

guys break it... we all discuss and help the thread starter make a right choice... not prove who's noob and who's not...
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January 2, 2010 5:57:11 PM

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andy5174+LoneWolf= 2 noobs duking it out online.

Listen, thew i7 prices I have to admit are too much. until Intel is willing to admit that this market is having an impact, then they will never lower costs. In my opinion, the i7 series is the best w/ a LGA 1366 and tripple-Channel DDR RAM,( for all you gamers)!

Another noob who talks based on his own feeling IGNORING the benchmarks.

It seems that I was so wrong to say that AMD fanboys are the only one who can't think properly.
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January 2, 2010 6:03:37 PM

A lot of experts here have LGA1366 i7 because LGA1156 i7 was NOT released when they got it in 2008 and early 2009.

Only noobs will get LGA1366 i7 with the presence of LGA1156 i7.
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January 2, 2010 6:06:29 PM

andy5174 said:
A lot of experts here have LGA1366 i7 because LGA1156 i7 was NOT released when they got it in 2008 and early 2009.

Only noobs will get LGA1366 i7 with the presence of LGA1156 i7.



Apparently you're quite proud of the fact that you have tunnel vision and you love the word "noob".

Used repeatedly to describe anyone with an opinion different from yours.

Got anything new and useful to contribute or are you just going to troll all day?
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January 2, 2010 6:21:00 PM

LoneWolf_53 said:
Apparently you're quite proud of the fact that you have tunnel vision and you love the word "noob".

Used repeatedly to describe anyone with an opinion different from yours.

Got anything new and useful to contribute or are you just going to troll all day?

Show us some benchmarks instead of just talking based on your own feeling if you want to prove that I am wrong.

That is what I do to show that you are an ignorant noob.

You are just saying "I am right. You are wrong!" based on NOTHING but your own feeling!
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January 2, 2010 6:52:17 PM

andy, while i am (unfortunatly) on your side, you are just m,aking yourself come across as an idiot.

as far as gaming is concerned, LGA1156 usually has the edge. what you seem to be completely ignoring is that lonewolf isn't talking about gaming. and the sortf of tasks he has in mind are without a doubt better performed by server grade lga1366 processor.

flaming someone and calling them a noob doesnt make you right, in fact it makes you wrong. regardlesss of what you are arguing. you have posted no stats, or graphs. and you aren't even making a coherrent point.

so just stop andy, because you are making the rest of us look bad.
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January 2, 2010 6:59:49 PM

welshmousepk said:
andy, while i am (unfortunatly) on your side, you are just m,aking yourself come across as an idiot.

as far as gaming is concerned, LGA1156 usually has the edge. what you seem to be completely ignoring is that lonewolf isn't talking about gaming. and the sortf of tasks he has in mind are without a doubt better performed by server grade lga1366 processor.

flaming someone and calling them a noob doesnt make you right, in fact it makes you wrong. regardlesss of what you are arguing. you have posted no stats, or graphs. and you aren't even making a coherrent point.

so just stop andy, because you are making the rest of us look bad.

The benchmark in the link I provides contains ALL KINDS OF APPLICTIONS instead of just gaming.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=364...
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January 2, 2010 7:02:18 PM

OK. Maybe you are right.

I am such an idiot who tried to convince those ignorant noobs who don't even read any benchmark I provided.
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January 2, 2010 7:02:30 PM

posting a link to a single website is not providing evidence.

like i said andy, i agree with you for the most part. i belive that 1366 is outperformed by 1156 in most tasks.

comments like:

'That is what I do to show that you are an ignorant noob.'

'Done with talking to you, ignorant noob.'

do not help yaour cause. '
i also sense a case if intel fanboyism though, which would explain your behaviour.



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January 2, 2010 7:25:52 PM

Your PSU and CPU choice indicate that you are planning or considering a 2nd GFX card in the future....if not, consider an 1156 board.

1) intel core i7 920 2.66Ghz - popular choice

2) EVGA E758-A1 socket 1366 X58 - not a bad board but not one I'd choose today. USB 3 and 6 GB/sec SATA are here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) HIS Radeon HD 5850 - This is cheaper and might save a few calls to TS as mobo dude can't blame it on GFX card dude.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) G.SKILL 6GB ( 3 x 2GB ) DDR3 1600 ( PC3 12800 ) - CAS 9 a bit slow

CAS 8 $ 129 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 7 $ 189 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 6 $ 245 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5) CORSAIR CMPSU-750tx 750W SLi and Crossfire ready - Too big for a singe GFX card and a bit much in a small case. See casecomments below.

6) Antec Three Hundred ATX mid tower computer case - A bit small for two GFX cards and cooling isn't all that great. Suggest taking a look at the new Antec 600 w/ Hot Swap bay in front and lots of other cool features.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It would appear looking at the "Customers Also Bought" part of the page, that peeps are buying this w/ the Antec CP-850 PSU. If this case does in fact fit the CP series PSU's, it will make this combo quite an impressive pairing. I'd call Antec 1st thing Monday and confirm, but if it's true, that would be a hard combo to pass up.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html
The Antec CP-850 is a superlative power supply by almost any standard. Its electrical performance is up at the level of its more expensive brethren, the Signature 650 and 850, and Seasonic's flagship, the M12D-850: Voltage regulation is extremely tight for all the lines at all loads, and the ripple noise is amazingly low.....For the quiet-seeking computer gaming enthusiast, the CP-850 (along with any of the three compatible cases) is something of a godsend. Fantastically stable power, super low noise at any power load, long expected reliability due to excellent cooling, modular cabling, and all at a price that's no higher than many high end 6~700W models

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

"If the CPX form factor catches on, the CP-850 will be flat out untouchable. It is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise. I'd like to see some better capacitors in there, but you just can't fault the CP-850's performance here.

I don't know how Antec managed something this awesome for such a low price, but they must really want the CPX form factor taking off if this is the performance we're getting. "


Again, an 850 PSU is overkill for a single GFX card but if you figure your next upgrade would be 2nd 5850 in XFire, it's a sound choice....especially if you're OC'ing. If a 2nd card will never happen, an Antec Earthwatts 650 or Corsair 620HX / 650TX would be the way to go

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January 2, 2010 7:26:51 PM

If overclocking is taken into consideration the i7 920 is a solid choice, simple as that. Otherwise they perform pretty likewise, but let's say someone wants to use these new "premium" boards with SATA III and USB 3.0? Then the X58 platform is a must due to it's extra PCI-E, "flexibility" :) 
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January 2, 2010 8:05:59 PM

Aren't the 750TX and 650HX similar in price? I see no qualm about him getting the 750TX, especially if he's considering adding another 5850 down the road.
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January 3, 2010 2:07:33 AM

A huge PSU is never overkill. There has been so many times in the last ten years which I had to buy another PSU because I didn't have enough juice on the rails. You will never regret getting a good PSU. It is not just about the wattage rating. Be sure to compare the amps on the rails. I always use a 1000 Watt PSU with at least 40 amps on the main rails. A 700 Watt PSU will be barely enough for one good video card and forget it is you want to SLI two.
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January 3, 2010 2:31:39 AM

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' A 700 Watt PSU will be barely enough for one good video card and forget it is you want to SLI two.


no, im sorry but that is just completely untrue. a good 550w PSU would be enough to power any single GPU system. telling a person they need a 700w minimum is like telling someone they MUST have at least a GTX275 is they want to play any games.
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January 3, 2010 2:36:21 AM

I'm just saying it sucks when you have to buy another GPU.. So you spend an extra $100, I wont be needing a GPU for the next 20 years...
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January 3, 2010 2:37:06 AM

I ment PSU, but that also applies for a GPU
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January 3, 2010 2:38:34 AM

Try to power a 295 GT with a 550 watt PSU. Good Luck!
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January 3, 2010 3:35:00 AM

i said SINGLE GPU system. if you have a single GPU 295 id ne impressed.

oh thats right, they are called GTX 260's, and 550w is fine for one of those.
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