[Solved] Why the new ATI series are so cheap???

The thing about the 5770 is currently on average due to lack of DX11 games the 5770 is out performed by the 4770 but the 5850 is an extremely solid card for the price and well worth the money
Edit: woops I meant 4870 sorry about that

@Aloid

Did you mean 5770 outperformed by 4870?

@santa2142

First, ATI has had a die shrink since 4770. Skills and efficiency improves with time and technology. Also, a die shrink would mean lower production cost, although the amount spent on R&D can certainly make up for the reduction in cost. Not to mention economy of scale.

Secondly, the way I see it, ATI is still charging a premium for all its 5000 cards since our beloved green team still does not have theirs out yet. When GT300 comes out, ATI can definitely slash prices like crazy and go on war against them.
The HD4800 came out cheap because nVidia's cards were already in the market. Hence, the only thing ATI could do was to aim for value for money.

However, they are not cheap. Look at 5800 series. They go above $200 where in reality, they should be around the same price (or perhaps slightly higher) as the 4800 series since they are aimed at replacing the 4800 lineup.

Dual 5770s just perform below a 4870x2
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1105/5/
But are a better deal and lower heat output and DX11

Well, numbers don't lie.

A & B yep
C = ? O_o

... Because 6 monitors on a 5870 is easier than 3 on a 5770?

I think you'll see a bunch of people use it, just like they did with the TH2Go on cards like the GF8800GTS-320/640.

Edit: not the majority, but still a bunch who can easily throw together older monitors, or already had dual monitors for editing and such.

I understand what you're saying, but remember, resolution scales with price too.

It would be more likely 3 x 1280x1024/1440x900/1600x900 than 3 x 19x12/10, which is similar to the old TH2Go which couldn't do 1920 resolution until DP suppport.

I meant launch and current. In theory, that should be the way it is but in reality, it isn't because of the lack of competition, additional features and most importantly to clear off the 4000s.

Yeap, I agree with you, which is why I said the 5000 series ain't cheap. Just wait for nVidia to release theirs and you can see the truly "cheap" 5000 series and by that time, 4000 would've been cleared (hopefully).

That makes you a not-so-smart consumer. I've had FX5500 from nVidia and it sucked. Yet, despite that, I gave 8600GT a go on my first PC. It was similar in performance and cheaper than 2600xt back then. Drop your prejudice against ATI and you'll find yourself saving alot more, unless of course money is not a problem for you.

The cheapest HD5770 is $35 dollars more expensive than the cheapest HD4870 on newegg right now. Considering their relative performances I don't see why anyone would go out of their way to comment on how cheap it is. Personally I think it's rather overpriced.

OK, would you rather have this card with all the DX11 goodness?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0HD%205850
259 to 289$ thats better and faster and more feature packed, or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0GTX%20285
This card, 349 to 389$, which is running hotter, drawing more power, isnt as fast, and has fewer features, and less forwards looking?

^^actually, it does... 5850 is faster than gtx285:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/30.html

edit yeah

OK. The 5850 is better than the 285 in every way and costs less. I was wrong.

Ugh im confused now... is it worth it to buy a 5870 or should i get a 5850

I have to say while I'm not gonna support WoW being too intensive of a game, with that many players and screen and that much happening that's pretty impressive, actually; especially, keeping in mind that's a mid-range budget card.

I have to try one first. today I played Resident Evil 5 in coop on ATI 4870 (1600x1050) and it was going well untill the 2nd or 3rd mission where it lagged, only that lvl, than it went ok, my friend was beside me playing with a 250gtx (1920x1080) and didnt go lag any time, we both played full graphics AA x8

Probably because they dont have enough of a performance gain to warrant a high price hehe. No...This is how AMD like to compete...performance for value...wheras Nvidia usually tend to have the upper hand in performance but they charge a hefty premium for it.

and will continue to have it for a while, before Nvidia comes out with the 300 cards, amd will produce the dual 5870 which will beat fermi. a dual fermi's price will be out of sight.

I was gonna say it must suck to have friends that lie to you about their performance to seem superior in some way.

I own a 4870 and I can tell you the card doesn't get outperformed by a weak 250. There are 3 possibilities:
1. Your friend lied. He was using a lower resolution.
2. Your friend lied. He was not using AA at all.
3. You lie.

How the hell can you love a company. What did it do to you? Help you when you were in trouble? Feed you if you were hungry?

Now, on topic. I give a little credit to the OP. Maybe he got confused between the 250 GTS and the non-existing 250 GTX, but the game comparison is from a fantasy book.

Wintergrasp

Maybe it is because ATI moved to 40nm sized GPU which would cut the cost for making the video card, thus, making the price cheaper for customers. In other words, the smaller the GPU, the cheaper the cost for making the video card and that would decrease the price too.

This is why in the past NVIDIA Geforce GTX 200 series cost more than Radeon HD 4000 series because NVIDIA failed to die shrink their GPU to 55nm and ATI tends to adopt newer tech and die shrinking their GPU before NVIDIA does. Maybe this is due to NVIDIA's approach by favouring Big Single Monolithic GPU which was the opposite to ATI's approach. ATI's approach was the idea of making Multiple Smaller GPUs over a big single monolithic GPU and to sell cheaper high-end video cards with decent performance.

Now it's not this, it's this, how is anyone supposed to give you credibility on that?

Uhhh.... I have this friend, he has an S3 Chrome 543 GTXX and it kicks the A$$ of all ATi & nVidia cards at all resolutions.

Actually i think you spelled it right