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[Solved] Vcore on i72600k @ 4.6Ghz

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Hello everyone,
I'm new to the forums and am having trouble when I overclock my CPU to 4.6ghz.

My build is :

Coolermaster 212 evo
i7 2600k
2 4gb corsair vengeance RAM
750W PSU
Asus p8z68 -v lx mobo


I get around 1.4 vcore when I run stress test with CPU clocked at 4.6 ghz when I read that usually it should not exceed 1.35. I am also having difficulty with the offsets for the CPU voltage so right now it's on auto. Also my board does not have the section with DIGI + vrm and the only available options for LLC are auto/enabled/disabled.

Any help is appreciated thanks!

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Try disabled for LLC, then try enabled, you should get a more solid Vcore with it disabled and let you find a general voltage you need for your overclock, once you find it you can play more with finding something lower. If you don't need Hyper threading you can disable that and it should allow you to lower the voltage some more.

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Reply to omega21xx

Thanks omega for the reply, I'll try that when I get home tonight. Do you have any tips for the voltage offset with the +/-? I'm still iffy on how it works.

Reply to MaxY1234

Try manual voltage first. Let's say 1.3v. Then try upping ur multi starting with 40. Go till it crashes. Then raise voltage a bit, see if it boots. Work ur way up till u get stable boot.

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Reply to madchemist83

MaxY1234 wrote :

Thanks omega for the reply, I'll try that when I get home tonight. Do you have any tips for the voltage offset with the +/-? I'm still iffy on how it works.



Personally I used fixed voltage instead of offset. I like to have a stable solid voltage vs one that changes too much on load and idle, not too concerned about power use. I'll probably fiddle more with getting good idle voltage when i have a chance, I was in a rush since i just got my build recently. When i used offset i got uncommon voltages, but at 4.4-4.6 you should be able to use a +0.10 or +0.15 offset. test under load and check voltage though, for me it was really unpredictable unless i had LLC off.

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Reply to omega21xx

Actually with offset it's more stable under load.

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Reply to madchemist83

madchemist83 wrote :

Actually with offset it's more stable under load.



It should be, when i was tweaking with offset i'd get voltage higher than 1.35 under load regardless of my LLC or PL over volt settings. I need to play more with it before i see whats going on. for now i'm stable 24/7 with prime with a fixed voltage under 1.35 so i'm fine with that until this weekend when i have more free time to play :)

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Reply to omega21xx

I also wanted to use fixed voltage however my asus p8z68 -v lx motherboard only allows me to change the voltage through offsets.

Reply to MaxY1234

Have you tried messing with the LLC and pll overvolt settings? they should help you get what you are looking for when testing for stabilty.

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Reply to omega21xx

I just disabled my LLC and PLL overvolt settings and ran a prime95 test but got BSOD at 1.38v. Is there any other settings that I'm missing?

Reply to MaxY1234

Put llc on enabled. Does it give u extra option?

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Reply to madchemist83

Try PLL overvolt off and turn on LLC. if your chip isn't stable at 1.38 at that speed you either have a very picky chip or it's too high a voltage. have you tried disabling hyper threading?

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Reply to omega21xx

Haha ... Beat u to it

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madchemist83 wrote :

Haha ... Beat u to it



Had work distractions lol

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Reply to omega21xx

Yeah whatever .. I'm at work too :)

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Reply to madchemist83

Ok I just disabled PLL overvolt and enabled LLC. My LLC only has 3 options: auto, enabled, disabled. I thought the point of getting an i7 is to have that feature of hyper threading? Sorry I'm still a novice at CPUs and overclocking. Thanks for the help so far guys. Oh yea my offset is at + 0.085 right now if that information is relevant.

Reply to MaxY1234

Whoa, after I enabled LLC my vcore shot up to 1.456

Reply to MaxY1234

MaxY1234 wrote :

Whoa, after I enabled LLC my vcore shot up to 1.456



keep it enabled and try a lower offset. find the lowest stable offset below 1.35v underload. I was just suggesting disabling HT to test :) It's easier sometimes to find stable settings with it off, then once you have those stable settings you should be able to do a tweak or two to get it stable with it enabled.

You may be at work also mad, but i'm stuck on a crappy dell optiplex 740 haha

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Reply to omega21xx

What about these settings: Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology, Turbo mode, CPU C1E, CPU C3 Report, CPU C6 report. So far they are all on auto/enabled.

Reply to MaxY1234

Ok so far I've disabled PPL overvolt, enabled LLC, disabled hyperthreading, and did an offset of - 0.015 and when I run stress test I get vcore 1.35v underload :D. Does that offset look about right? Is every cpu's auto voltage different? And based on that, we offset it either + or - to the vcore that we want underload? Btw, thanks omega and mad for helping me!

Reply to MaxY1234

Also would you guys recommend I leave hyperthreading on or off? I mainly use the computer for gaming and occasionally programming. Also, do I test if my CPU is stable using OCCT, IntelBurnTest, or Prime95? and for how long? thanks again guys!

Reply to MaxY1234

No problem. Now try manual voltage and lower it as much as possible. Then switch to appropriate offset

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Reply to madchemist83

MaxY1234 wrote :

Also would you guys recommend I leave hyperthreading on or off? I mainly use the computer for gaming and occasionally programming. Also, do I test if my CPU is stable using OCCT, IntelBurnTest, or Prime95? and for how long? thanks again guys!



Hyperthreading has very little use and hurts fps in some games, I saw you mentioned the C1 state, that should be disabled. sorry i tend to forget that and assume everyone knows to turn that off.

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Reply to omega21xx

I have it on auto. C3 and c6 need to be disabled of you have problems booting

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Reply to madchemist83

Thanks again mad and omega for the quick responses. Can I ask why C1E needs to be disabled?

Reply to MaxY1234

Some don't need it disabled but it keeps the cores from going in a sleep state and helps with stability. Shouldn't be an issue but I've always turned it off and I think most OC guides suggest it but haven't looked.


Message edited by omega21xx on 02-07-2012 at 04:49:37 AM
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Reply to omega21xx

Well, I just ran a prime blend test and in 10min it gave me a rounding error so I increased my vcore from 1.32-1.36v and I am still getting the rounding error. Do I have to increase the voltage more or does it have anything to do with my RAM?

Reply to MaxY1234

What is ur clock?

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Reply to madchemist83

4.6ghz
RAM voltage is at 1.5v

Reply to MaxY1234

Are you running blend? If so then maybe could be RAM.

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Reply to omega21xx

Yes. I am running blend. How would I go about fixing this problem if it is a problem with my RAM?

Reply to MaxY1234

Try running the memory at its rated speed, either enable xmp or punch in what it says for timings and clock. Then test RAM with memtest. If you pass 20 (should take quite a few hours) tests its not your RAM but a bad OC

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Reply to omega21xx

If that doesn't work try increasing ram voltage a bit.

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Reply to madchemist83

How much should I increase my RAM voltage by? Right now it is at 1.5v

Reply to MaxY1234

Don't go over 1.65, but if you can try 1.55

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Reply to omega21xx

MaxY1234 wrote :

Well, I just ran a prime blend test and in 10min it gave me a rounding error so I increased my vcore from 1.32-1.36v and I am still getting the rounding error. Do I have to increase the voltage more or does it have anything to do with my RAM?

 
MaxY1234 wrote :

4.6ghz
RAM voltage is at 1.5v

 
MaxY1234 wrote :

Yes. I am running blend. How would I go about fixing this problem if it is a problem with my RAM?

  
MaxY1234 wrote :

How much should I increase my RAM voltage by? Right now it is at 1.5v

 

Do not increase the voltage on those 1.5v Corsair modules, they were specifically designed to run 1.5v increasing their voltage will not give stabilization and is probably not the problem anyway. Those memory modules were never bench tested at 46x nor has Corsair claimed any such capability regarding those modules. Drop the memory speed from 1600 to 1333, if that doesn't stabilize drop from 1333 to 1066, if your problem is memory related you'll get further in P95 Blend, otherwise the CPU voltage you're running is either too low or too high.

 

Intels 1155 socket tested memory range is only 1066 and 1333 anyway, according to Intels website.


Message edited by 4Ryan6 on 02-07-2012 at 08:13:22 PM
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Reply to 4Ryan6

When I lower the RAM speed from 1600 to 1333, I get BSOD. What does that mean?

Reply to MaxY1234

MaxY1234 wrote :

When I lower the RAM speed from 1600 to 1333, I get BSOD. What does that mean?



What settings do you have it at? timing voltage ect.

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Reply to omega21xx

mine is perfectly stable at 1600 and 4.7 Ghz.

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Reply to madchemist83

Hey chemist, did you leave the VCCIO voltage on auto? Omega my timing is at 9-9-9-24-2

Reply to MaxY1234

My VCCIO voltage says 1.050V auto
DRAM voltage is 1.5V
PCH voltage is 1.050V auto
LLC enabled
CPU spread Spectrum disabled

Reply to MaxY1234

It's on auto

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Reply to madchemist83

Take it off XMP and test 1333 and 1066, if it BSOD then i'd go back to what i said earlier, testing with memtest at it's rated specs.

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Reply to omega21xx

So if u try manual voltage at 1.3 and 4.6gh what happens?

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Reply to madchemist83

I believe he mentioned not having the option to use fixed voltage. Might require a BIOS update?

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Reply to omega21xx

When i turned off XMP and disabled c6 and c3 it boots up fine but I still get an error while running prime95. 1.352v-1.36. I'm running mem test now. Will get back to you guys in a couple of hours.

Reply to MaxY1234

the lx version of the p8z68 board does not have the option to set a manual fixed voltage. I updated my bios to the latest which is 0703.

Reply to MaxY1234

MaxY1234 wrote :

When i turned off XMP and disabled c6 and c3 it boots up fine but I still get an error while running prime95. 1.352v-1.36. I'm running mem test now. Will get back to you guys in a couple of hours.



Alright, hope the memtest sheds some light on this. when you stressed the cpu try small instead of blend to avoid doing much ram, that should help leave out the ram as a possible instability.

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