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October 29, 2009 5:35:52 AM

I am currently building a system: I have until december to finish it, so I am looking for graphic cards, and I am hesitating between a GTX 395 or a HD 5870. Please give your opinion, back it up with information and if you think I should wait for another card, feel free to post it here.

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October 29, 2009 5:40:25 AM

Go for 5870 or sweet spot for the ultra performance: 2 x 5850.

GTX395 is non-existent atm and wont be out this year, so no point.
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October 29, 2009 6:18:09 AM

I dont think GTX395 will be out for another 2 years or so. The Green Team are already struggling to make a GT300. Besides, DX10 was suppose to be DX11 but Nvidia kind of bullied M-Soft to lower the hardcoreness b'cos they cudnt handle it. THis is basically ATI's 4 gen on DX11 so trust them for a long time
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October 29, 2009 7:18:36 AM

I don’t know if that is correct or not but it looks like that the GTX395 will be out in December.
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October 29, 2009 8:14:16 AM

darkskoliro said:
I dont think GTX395 will be out for another 2 years or so.


Expect GTX 495 in 2 years...
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October 29, 2009 8:18:52 AM

If you are not going to build until December and the GTX 385 will not come out until December, then the point is moot right now.

Simply answer is to wait for the benchmarks if the GTX 385 is supposed to be released as stated.
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October 29, 2009 10:30:52 AM

michaelmk86 said:
I don’t know if that is correct or not but it looks like that the GTX395 will be out in December.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4180/nvidiagt300.jpg

Much of that looks like numbers pulled out of thin air. I'd love to see a new, ridiculously fast card, but I'd like to see something from a more solid source.
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October 29, 2009 10:33:43 AM

That wiki like is just a total fabrication, probably done by Fuad so he can write more FUD over the coming weeks.
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October 29, 2009 11:31:14 AM

From what i've heard the GTX 300 series will be showing up around January-February. The 5970 (5870X2) is coming out at the end of November however and it should be one beast of a card.
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October 29, 2009 2:56:44 PM

that wiki table is on the wiki page: look for yourself
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October 29, 2009 3:05:31 PM

michaelmk86 said:
I don’t know if that is correct or not but it looks like that the GTX395 will be out in December.

Sure, I also have Eiffel tower to sell to you, cheap! Interested? ;) 
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October 29, 2009 3:07:02 PM

dadude941 said:
that wiki table is on the wiki page: look for yourself


Anybody can edit wikipedia, that's kind of the point.
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October 29, 2009 3:12:44 PM

Well, to be fair a lot of that wiki table looks reasonable.$800 or so for dual Fermi, $500 or so for a single. 225W for high single and 300W for a heavily underclocked dual (as that is the limit of the spec) don't seem too unreasonably good. Still, it is all speculation (and wiki should never be trusted as fact, just a quick reference) and the numbers tell little about performance. If you're in no rush to upgrade though, you might as well see what NVidia has to offer come December. Even if they don't have many or any cards to sell by then, I hope they are doing everything in their power to get them to reviewers this year, so hopefully we will know performance numbers soon.
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October 29, 2009 3:12:50 PM

I don't think those dates are accurate. I recently read somewhere that the fermi based chips are currently having their first test chips made. There will be some going back and forth to fine tune and the first chips probably won't be production ready for 4 months at least. I read this about a week ago.

Having said that, it seems like new video cards seem to just magically appear out of nowhere, so this could all just be smoke generated by NVidia.
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October 29, 2009 3:16:34 PM

I could really go for a cheeseburger right now......aside from that I don't think that we'll be seeing Fermi until 1Q 2010. Hopefully we can get some benchmarks before then though.
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October 29, 2009 3:21:29 PM

Well, one other interesting thing (to me at least) is that chart says they will use 2xGTX350s, not even the 60 line this time around. That will probably still beat the 380, but not by much at all, and probably be close to the X2 from ATI as well.
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October 29, 2009 6:26:25 PM

Question for the OP.. Do You want to spend ~ $600 for the card or ~ $300 for the card.?
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October 29, 2009 6:36:32 PM

Nvidia executives smoke huge amounts of crack before setting the MSRP prices of their video-cards, they are nuts. Go with the ATI, for the price of Nividia's next top of the line card, you can probably buy two ATI HD 5870'S and Crossfire them.
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October 29, 2009 6:41:01 PM

I like how people are taking that wiki information seriously. "Oh it's reasonable!" It's because people made it up based on what they want to expect and what everyone else wants to expect, that's why it seems reasonable.
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October 29, 2009 7:23:01 PM

But it isn't what they want, which is why I found it interesting. I doubt an NVidia fan would slap two weak 350s together, rate it at 300W, and then try to sell it for an outrageous $800.
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October 29, 2009 7:25:05 PM

EXT64 said:
But it isn't what they want, which is why I found it interesting. I doubt an NVidia fan would slap two weak 350s together, rate it at 300W, and then try to sell it for an outrageous $800.


Then lets stop with the suspension of disbelief and realize someone threw it together. :p 
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October 29, 2009 7:32:44 PM

Alright, I agree it has no credibility. Its just that I was bored and felt like reading too far into it. I'm easily entertained sometimes.
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October 29, 2009 7:34:21 PM

GTX395... with all the NVidia talk recently, I really doubt it's going to be released at all. They don't even want to jump on the DX11 bandwagon and they try to spread their stupid monopoly of PhysX.

I made the same mistake of waiting for the HD3870 back then, but after a month of wait I went with a 8800GTX and I made the right choice. Usually the first company to get their cards available into the new DX is the clear winner.
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November 3, 2009 1:41:20 AM

go with ATi - nVidia has only one plus here, PhysX, which is no use for 99.9% games. also consider the fact that ATi uses less energy in "standby" mode - when not under a heavy load, nVidia uses only around 70W less, while ATi - more than 100. if the card goes out in the end of november, then it'll be a perfect card to get, and best will be if you get 2 of them for crossfire! it'll be crazy fast!
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November 3, 2009 1:48:56 AM

Woooooooooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously has no one considered that he meant to say gtx 295 instead???? :pfff:  :pfff:  :pfff:  :pfff:  :pfff: 
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November 3, 2009 1:59:12 AM

Maybe, but look how fun and useful this thread turned out this way.
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November 3, 2009 3:15:50 AM

yeah either he meant gtx 295 or two 5870's vs one GTX 395 if the price is what I'm expecting it to be
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November 3, 2009 4:36:33 PM

actually I did mean the gtx 300 series... im looking at the future
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November 4, 2009 2:25:37 AM

Well there are two problems in that case
One we don't actually know how the GTX 395 performs
And second there is/will be a big price difference
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November 11, 2009 4:54:43 AM

turboflame said:
Anybody can edit wikipedia, that's kind of the point.


Actually, when you edit a wiki now, they don't put the changes in to the page before they can confirm them
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April 25, 2010 2:48:02 PM

id rule ati out, i tried ati eyefinity , this was let down by poor drivers ,more time putting it right , now ive gone back to nvidea , havent had do nothing since , yes ati have more of what you want at the min , but id rather be computing than fixing .
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April 25, 2010 3:27:33 PM

I went with the ATI solution after all, and it works fine..
Im capping 33 000 points on Vantage on performance setting
Everything working

Thanks to everyone who helped in this thread

This thread is now closed.
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