GTX 395 or HD 5870

I am currently building a system: I have until december to finish it, so I am looking for graphic cards, and I am hesitating between a GTX 395 or a HD 5870. Please give your opinion, back it up with information and if you think I should wait for another card, feel free to post it here.

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I dont think GTX395 will be out for another 2 years or so. The Green Team are already struggling to make a GT300. Besides, DX10 was suppose to be DX11 but Nvidia kind of bullied M-Soft to lower the hardcoreness b'cos they cudnt handle it. THis is basically ATI's 4 gen on DX11 so trust them for a long time

Expect GTX 495 in 2 years...

Much of that looks like numbers pulled out of thin air. I'd love to see a new, ridiculously fast card, but I'd like to see something from a more solid source.

From what i've heard the GTX 300 series will be showing up around January-February. The 5970 (5870X2) is coming out at the end of November however and it should be one beast of a card.

Sure, I also have Eiffel tower to sell to you, cheap! Interested?

Well, to be fair a lot of that wiki table looks reasonable.$800 or so for dual Fermi, $500 or so for a single. 225W for high single and 300W for a heavily underclocked dual (as that is the limit of the spec) don't seem too unreasonably good. Still, it is all speculation (and wiki should never be trusted as fact, just a quick reference) and the numbers tell little about performance. If you're in no rush to upgrade though, you might as well see what NVidia has to offer come December. Even if they don't have many or any cards to sell by then, I hope they are doing everything in their power to get them to reviewers this year, so hopefully we will know performance numbers soon.

I could really go for a cheeseburger right now......aside from that I don't think that we'll be seeing Fermi until 1Q 2010. Hopefully we can get some benchmarks before then though.

Question for the OP.. Do You want to spend ~ $600 for the card or ~ $300 for the card.?

I like how people are taking that wiki information seriously. "Oh it's reasonable!" It's because people made it up based on what they want to expect and what everyone else wants to expect, that's why it seems reasonable.

Then lets stop with the suspension of disbelief and realize someone threw it together.

GTX395... with all the NVidia talk recently, I really doubt it's going to be released at all. They don't even want to jump on the DX11 bandwagon and they try to spread their stupid monopoly of PhysX.

I made the same mistake of waiting for the HD3870 back then, but after a month of wait I went with a 8800GTX and I made the right choice. Usually the first company to get their cards available into the new DX is the clear winner.

Woooooooooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously has no one considered that he meant to say gtx 295 instead????

yeah either he meant gtx 295 or two 5870's vs one GTX 395 if the price is what I'm expecting it to be

Well there are two problems in that case
One we don't actually know how the GTX 395 performs
And second there is/will be a big price difference