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LGA1156-if I buy I5 750, will there be a future wortwhile upgrade?

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January 5, 2010 8:32:24 PM

I am thinking about buying an I5 750-I was wondering if I go with the Socket 1156, will there be a valid future upgrade for this socket or will I basically be buying the board for the one processor? I would not want an upgrade if it only offered an incremental increase i.e 860 or 920. Any future offerings going to use the 1156?
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January 5, 2010 8:46:50 PM

Perhaps, maybe and probably.

Always a hard question to answer.

But the chances are good as it seems to be the mainstream socket for Intel.
(also the 920 is on that other socket... 1366 I think)
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January 5, 2010 9:41:29 PM

Depends, if you need to upgrade in less than 2 years, it's not worthwhile but chances are you'll be able to keep the CPU for a good 3-5 years (in terms of reliability and relative performance). This all just means you probably won't upgrade since it'll be good enough to last a few years and by the time you do decide to upgrade, it'll be more worthwhile to just build a whole new system.
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January 5, 2010 9:49:33 PM

Yes LGA 1156 will end up getting new processors, Intel invested a lot of money into the LGA 1156 chipset, they are not just going to drop it arbitrarily.
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January 5, 2010 10:12:53 PM

You should definitely go with the X58 motherboards and 1366 socket if you want to upgrade your processor. Intel has already anounced that they are releasing the new Gulftown six-core processor for the X58 motherboard sometime this year. If you buy a Socket 1366 / X58 motherboard today, you can upgrade to the new six-core processor in less than a year. It only costs $999 for this new processor.

Or, you could buy a i5-750 / P55 system now for about $1000. In three years, you could sell it (or use it for a HTPC) and build a state-of-the-art P65 computer for about $1000, and still come out ahead moneywise.

Intel comes out with a new processor platform every two to three years. Your much better off just moving to the new platform rather than paying a premium to upgrade your processor.
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January 5, 2010 10:27:51 PM

jamesrwright said:
I am thinking about buying an I5 750-I was wondering if I go with the Socket 1156, will there be a valid future upgrade for this socket or will I basically be buying the board for the one processor? I would not want an upgrade if it only offered an incremental increase i.e 860 or 920. Any future offerings going to use the 1156?


My other choice would be an AMD AM3 Board-I think the Phenom II would be plenty fast for all I use it for. It's not really about speed I can use-it's just speed I want to have. I mostly use my computer for E-mail, Multimedia Playback, some gaming-still playing Battlefield 2-will definitely be playing BF3 when it comes out later this year.
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January 5, 2010 10:33:14 PM

The AMD AM3 system is also an excellent choice. For about $800, you could put together a killer AMD computer that would handle all of your applications with ease. This article should help you gauge the relative performance of all of the above systems:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=364...
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January 5, 2010 10:42:26 PM

Actually I am just replacing the motherboard in my HP Media Center-everything else is fine in terms of storage-I have multiple external USB Hard Drives that back up my media. The 500 GB Internal Hard Drive is fine-and so are the optical drives.
I am looking to spend no more than $400 including memory. I already have replaced the original power supply with a 550 W one.
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January 5, 2010 10:50:10 PM

The I5 will have no CPUs with more than 4 cores or any new architecture. Check Intels most recent roadmap for proof. LGA 1366 might have an upgrade to Sandy Bridge (new arch) which comes it q1 2011 (its been pushed back). The AM3 socket also has an upgrade to Bulldozer (new arch) which comes in either late h2 2010 (according to AMD, now) or most likely q1 2011. Both Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer are 32nm.

P.S: Oh yeah, 1366 also will have the 6 core i7 h1 2010 and AM3 will have the 6 core Thuban in h1 2010.

EDIT: The reason i said 1366 might have an upgrade to Sandy Bridge is b/c I don't know if Intel confirmed this or not.
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January 5, 2010 10:59:01 PM

yannifb said:
The I5 will have no CPUs with more than 4 cores or any new architecture. Check Intels most recent roadmap for proof. LGA 1366 might have an upgrade to Sandy Bridge (new arch) which comes it q1 2011 (its been pushed back). The AM3 socket also has an upgrade to Bulldozer (new arch) which comes in either late h2 2010 (according to AMD, now) or most likely q1 2011. Both Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer are 32nm.

P.S: Oh yeah, 1366 also will have the 6 core i7 h1 2010 and AM3 will have the 6 core Thuban in h1 2010.


Not so, Intel has only stated the release of the $999 Gulftown. You mean to tell me Intel won't release ANY budget 6-cores? The Roadmaps are up for change and only list what Intel wants them to. If AMD's 6-core does well at a low price point you better believe a budget version will be quick to come out.
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January 5, 2010 11:00:18 PM

I doubt that the 1156 platform will have anything worth upgrading to, come out beyond what is already available today.

So if you were to get an i3 or i5, then perhaps Intel will later on release a i7quad at 3.33Ghz or so you could upgrade to.

I suspect that Sandy Bridge will need a new socket.
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January 5, 2010 11:20:31 PM

Chad Boga said:
I doubt that the 1156 platform will have anything worth upgrading to, come out beyond what is already available today.

So if you were to get an i3 or i5, then perhaps Intel will later on release a i7quad at 3.33Ghz or so you could upgrade to.

I suspect that Sandy Bridge will need a new socket.


Chad Boga, I have to admit I completely agree with this. :D 
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January 5, 2010 11:55:24 PM

Chad Boga said:
I doubt that the 1156 platform will have anything worth upgrading to, come out beyond what is already available today.

So if you were to get an i3 or i5, then perhaps Intel will later on release a i7quad at 3.33Ghz or so you could upgrade to.

I suspect that Sandy Bridge will need a new socket.


LGA 1156 will get the same thing LGA 1366 will get, 32nm quads. The difference is that LGA 1366 will get an extremely overpriced 6-core processor that is useless for almost all desktop users.

So yeah, unless you are excited about 32nm quads then neither socket will bring anything all that amazing.
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January 6, 2010 12:04:50 AM

Question: LGA1156-if I buy I5 750, will there be a future wortwhile upgrade?

You buy a 2x pci 2.0 slot 1156 board now to go with your 200 dollar I5 750 , which is already faster than anything AMD has.
This will allow you to go crossfire ATI gpu's or SLI Nvdia's gpu's in the future.
Which AMD boards can't do.

I notice hyperthreading is being talked about alot with the new intel dual cores by AMD and Intel fans. That option is available to you right now with the 1156 -860.
I don't know , but if I buy a car, I worry what this one has. Not my next purchase.
The roadmaps are a non issue to how your going to use your computer you purchase today.
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January 6, 2010 12:16:54 AM

notty22 said:
I don't know , but if I buy a car, I worry what this one has.


Hot Rodders are;nt so different .......they're interested in what upgrades are available for their cars and make purchase choices accordingly.
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January 6, 2010 12:20:31 AM

AMW1011 said:
LGA 1156 will get the same thing LGA 1366 will get, 32nm quads.

Intel don't have 32nm Quads on their roadmap for either socket at the moment. Sure that might change, but Sandy Bridge is meant to be the only 32nm Quad that Intel will be releasing.

I suppose that in 2011 when Sandy Bridge comes out, that Intel could release 32nm Quads for LGA1156 & 1366 like they have released new SKU's for Socket 775 in the last 12 months with the E6300, but I don't think they will be releasing any 32nm Quads that will be significantly faster for those sockets, than what we have today. Thus not making it much of an upgrade path in effect.

AMD aren't putting any great pressure on Intel in this segment, so I doubt that Intel will worry too much here and be putting their resources behind Sandy Bridge.

Now if Sandy Bridge gets delayed significantly, then Intel might start releasing worthwhile 32nm Quad upgrade options for the 1156 and 1366 platforms.
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January 6, 2010 12:21:10 AM

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Is Sandy Bridge going to be on 1156?

No
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January 6, 2010 12:24:47 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
Hot Rodders are;nt so different .......they're interested in what upgrades are available for their cars and make purchase choices accordingly.


You run what you brung , and hope you brung enough !

I'm a drag racer, also.
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January 6, 2010 1:29:41 AM

Chad Boga said:
No


Oh so you are in the inner circle of Intel now.

Either way anyone who says 32nm quads aren't going to be released on LGA 1156 is just disillusioned. Intel is not going to invest millions into a chipset just to let it die out. What we may see is a larger disparity in price between the LGA 1156 and LGA 1366 chipsets with the budget and mainstream processors hitting LGA 1156 only to squeeze more money out of the LGA 1366 crowd, but even that is guessing.
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January 6, 2010 1:31:46 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
Hot Rodders are;nt so different .......they're interested in what upgrades are available for their cars and make purchase choices accordingly.


Bad example, most parts can be modified easily for hot rods.

Now tuners, that is a very restrictive hobby if you have the wrong car, unless you have a Honda Civic or a Nissan Skyline.
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January 6, 2010 1:38:38 AM

AMW1011 said:
Oh so you are in the inner circle of Intel now.

Nothing I have read suggests that they are going to do that, so whilst it is possible, I would see it as very unlikely. You are of course free to have a different view, but please try and not to shitty your pants whilst having that view.

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Either way anyone who says 32nm quads aren't going to be released on LGA 1156 is just disillusioned. Intel is not going to invest millions into a chipset just to let it die out. What we may see is a larger disparity in price between the LGA 1156 and LGA 1366 chipsets with the budget and mainstream processors hitting LGA 1156 only to squeeze more money out of the LGA 1366 crowd, but even that is guessing.


I don't think people are ruling out that Intel might release a 3.2Ghz or 3.3Ghz Lynnfield Quad on LGA 1156, but that isn't going to be a cost effective upgrade from an i5-750 or i7-860 for most people. Maybe if you are into overclocking in a big way it could be feasible.
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January 6, 2010 1:51:53 AM

Chad Boga said:
Nothing I have read suggests that they are going to do that, so whilst it is possible, I would see it as very unlikely. You are of course free to have a different view, but please try and not to shitty your pants whilst having that view.

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Either way anyone who says 32nm quads aren't going to be released on LGA 1156 is just disillusioned. Intel is not going to invest millions into a chipset just to let it die out. What we may see is a larger disparity in price between the LGA 1156 and LGA 1366 chipsets with the budget and mainstream processors hitting LGA 1156 only to squeeze more money out of the LGA 1366 crowd, but even that is guessing.


I don't think people are ruling out that Intel might release a 3.2Ghz or 3.3Ghz Lynnfield Quad on LGA 1156, but that isn't going to be a cost effective upgrade from an i5-750 or i7-860 for most people. Maybe if you are into overclocking in a big way it could be feasible.


You haven't seen anything that suggests either way, so it is very unlikely that it will happen?

What do you mean by a 3.2 GHz or 3.3 GHz quad? You mean a 32nm 3.2 or 3.3 GHz quad? A 45nm quad at those clocks would not make sense, it would cost too much on a mainstream chipset. If you are talking about 32nm quads, then no they wont be a major upgrade over current quadcores, because there wont be for AT LEAST a couple if years.

I have no idea why you have a belief that does not make any form of sense and there is nothing to prove either side except what would turn Intel the biggest profit.
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