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April 13, 2010 6:35:00 AM

I am building a new system and along with my old system I am out of date with the current technology.

Basically, I want a fast but stable system. I am a Graphic/Web Designer and Photographer. I play games once and awhile so I would like it to be able to handle that too. I do not care much for overclocking and don't want extra junk to overclock which sometimes means more money for the parts.

I am a little lost on what mobo to go with. MaximumPC suggests using the Asus P7P55D Deluxe in their new 1500 system. So far I am looking at the Asus P7P55D Deluxe or the Gigabyte GA-P55-UD6. I have read that you need to use single sided ram on the Gigabyte board, but am confused when I read reviews if I can use 4 sticks of double sided ram and if I want to use all six slots it has to be single sided. Also, when I go look to buy ram the boards says it can use 2200(O.C.) speed ram...I am guessing that means overclocked cause the memory companies do not have that ram when I select a board.

I am not sure if I am going to be using a 64bit or 32bit operating system since a lot of my programs are older that I use daily. My Design suite should work in a 64bit environment but not sure if the rest will. So am I am going to start with 4gigs of ram and then buy 4 more if I go with 64bit.


So any ideas about the boards I am looking at? Is there a different board to go with? Also, what ram should I go with. I am used to Kingston HyperX memory and was going to go with that. Any suggestions or info is appreciated. Oh and the only real request I have is that the board has USB 3.0.

So far this is what I have in mind for a system.

Processor
Intel 2.8GHz Core i7-860

GPU
HIS ATI Radeon 5770 or a HIS IceQ 5 H577QT1GD Radeon HD 5770 Turbo not sure what the difference really is. Still looking into it.

CPU COOLER
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

Power Supply
CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX

Memory
No Clue Yet

Mobo
No Clue Yet

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a c 297 V Motherboard
April 13, 2010 3:30:33 PM

Hi.

1- Since you want install 4GB or more in the future, you need a x64 bits OS, because with a 32 bit OS you only can use 3GB or 3.5GB max.
2- What is the budget for the mobo?
3- What is the budget for the RAM?
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April 13, 2010 8:38:19 PM

Thanks for the response.

1. I know about the mem cap with the 32 bit system that is why I am looking at 4 for now and 4 later. When I get the system running I am going to test out the 64bit world and see if my legacy software works. Then if it does go for the other 4.

2. Right now, I am really in a budget crunch and can only afford a middle of the road system, so around 200-250ish for the mobo.

3. With the ram what ever the price is, is what I can afford. Some of the ram I have been looking at is around the same price of the mobo.

More info on the mobo. I don't think I really need USB 3.0 as I am sure there will be an expansion card for it. Also I do need a PATA connector. Noticed some boards do not come with on.
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a c 297 V Motherboard
April 13, 2010 8:57:47 PM

1- One of this maybe is a good options for u.

2- For RAM this G.Skill 1600 CL7 are very good.
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a b V Motherboard
April 13, 2010 9:22:35 PM

+1 to that RAM. G.Skill is solid and generally pretty good on the price, and CL7 is awesome.

For the Mobo, Check this one out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its a GREAT board. You can also get it with USB3 and SATA6 for just $210 right now, so still within your price range. Its a beautiful board, and has gotten great reviews- check out this one from HardOCP. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/08/msi_p55gd80_m...
I also am personally using the board and have had ZERO problems with it and can get my i5-750 over 4.0Ghz with it.
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April 13, 2010 10:27:16 PM

Can you use a pci express 2.1 card with a 2.0 slot?
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a b V Motherboard
April 13, 2010 10:28:47 PM

yes- they are backwards compatible.
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a c 216 V Motherboard
April 14, 2010 1:11:14 AM

The overclocking decision is important as it determines what memory speed you need. If you do decide to do it, and today, it's really hard to pick a reason not to, all it means is buying a 3rd party heat sink on which you can spend $30-$65 plus a few bucks for a fan and TIM. If you are not gonna OC, no need for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

If your not going to OC, then DDR3-1066 is just fine. If you want to take your CPU to 4 Ghz territory, DDR3-1600 will get you there using the standard 8x memory multiplier.

Stay away from the Gigabyte P55 boards if you think you will ever add a 2nd GFX card.

You didn't tell us your monitor res..... at 1650 x 1050, the 5770 is fine for today's DX11 games.....the 5850 / 470 is the entry point for HD resolution (1920 x whatever)

Case / PSU Options Full Tower:

Antec 1200 w/ CP-850 $229 (turn the LED's off)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HAF 932 w/ Corsair HX850 $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case / PSU Options Mid Tower:

HAF 922 w/ Corsair TX650 $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 900 w/ EA-650 $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - pick 1066, 1333, or 1600 based upon how high you wanna OC. To maintain an 8x mem multiplier, get 1066 for stock speeds, 1333 for up to 3.6 Ghz and 1600 for up to 4.2 Ghz. Unless you have some specific knowledge about RAM performing better than their labels would indicate (see THG memory articles and sample builds), look for the lowest CAS rating you can afford....CAS 6 is the most expensive, CAS 9 the cheapest.

CAS 6 $164 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 7 $105 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 8 $104 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 9 $ 90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd get Win 7 - 64 professional and use XP mode for your 32 bit programs if you have an issue. Or take advantage of the XP downgrade program .... till April 23rd anyway.:

http://windows7center.com/news/microsoft-caps-windows-7...
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a c 297 V Motherboard
April 14, 2010 1:07:43 PM

^That RAM isn't good. The voltage is very high for DDR3 and the CL is high too.

A lower CL means a faster RAM, you can have a 1600 RAM CL9 against 1600 CL6 and you will see better results with the CL6.

The recommended voltage for DDR3 is 1.65V or less, above it, can hurt your i7 processor.
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a b V Motherboard
April 14, 2010 1:30:16 PM

flyinfinni said:
+1 to that RAM. G.Skill is solid and generally pretty good on the price, and CL7 is awesome.

For the Mobo, Check this one out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its a GREAT board. You can also get it with USB3 and SATA6 for just $210 right now, so still within your price range. Its a beautiful board, and has gotten great reviews- check out this one from HardOCP. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/08/msi_p55gd80_m...
I also am personally using the board and have had ZERO problems with it and can get my i5-750 over 4.0Ghz with it.

Oh... its an MSI. I love MSI motherboards. I have it myself and recommended it on two builds although on AMD. AMD or Intel, MSI mobo's are beauties.
I say go for it...
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a b V Motherboard
April 14, 2010 4:05:09 PM

Yeah- skip that RAM. Kingston RAM is good, but that particular set is not what you want. looser timings, high voltages, especially with the socket 1156 CPUs. You can really only go up to 1.65V or your will risk burning the memory controller on the CPU, and then you've got to replace the whole CPU. With that RAM, its min spec voltage is 1.7. You want RAM specced in the 1.5-1.65 V range. Look at some of the ones JackNaylor posted- much better options.
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