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October 20, 2009 7:47:31 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: would like to buy the parts today BUDGET RANGE: would be happy to keep it under 1,000. but 1,200 would still be fine.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, internet, hdmi port for movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: have keyboard and mouse, that's about it

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg or any other sites that are respected

PARTS PREFERENCES: i want to use the intel core i7 920, because i've read that it's very good.

OVERCLOCKING: don't know much about overclocking so not right now

MONITOR RESOLUTION:1920x1200 i believe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: nothing right now...

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Parts I've picked out: well i've only ended up coming up with a CPU i guess right now as i'm not too knowledgeable about videocards, soooo....

Intel core i7 920

picked this case, because i thought it was cool

I wanted to have an HDMI port also, so for that I would need to have a motherboard that has one, right? and then also for that HDMI, do I have to look for a videocard that can support HDMI?

well, for the motherboard and the videocard, i'd love to have suggestions from you guys, because I don't know which cards are good and which are not, and what is the best for the price, etc.

well, i guess this is a start... any opinions?

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October 20, 2009 8:28:08 PM

You dont need any video on the motherboard if you have a graphics card.

The case link is to the i7 CPU, not a case. I would suggest looking at the Coolermaster CM 690, Coolermaster HAF 922, Antec 300 illusion, Antec 900 and Antec 902. If you are likely to move it around alot the Coolermaster Storm Scout has handles. To me the key things are a case with Front fan, Top fan, Rear fan and side vent.

The best inexpensive motherboard for the i7 920 is the ASRock x58 extreme.

For that resolution and gaming you are probably looking at an HD 5850 or 5870 graphics card. They have HDMI already. Unfortunately 5850s in particular are hard to find and sell out fast because everyone wants one. It depends on the games you are playing, though. What games are you looking at?
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October 20, 2009 8:35:02 PM

JTBALLER said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: would like to buy the parts today BUDGET RANGE: would be happy to keep it under 1,000. but 1,200 would still be fine.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, internet, hdmi port for movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: have keyboard and mouse, that's about it

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg or any other sites that are respected

PARTS PREFERENCES: i want to use the intel core i7 920, because i've read that it's very good.

OVERCLOCKING: don't know much about overclocking so not right now

MONITOR RESOLUTION:1920x1200 i believe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: nothing right now...

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Parts I've picked out: well i've only ended up coming up with a CPU i guess right now as i'm not too knowledgeable about videocards, soooo....

Intel core i7 920

picked this case, because i thought it was cool

I wanted to have an HDMI port also, so for that I would need to have a motherboard that has one, right? and then also for that HDMI, do I have to look for a videocard that can support HDMI?

well, for the motherboard and the videocard, i'd love to have suggestions from you guys, because I don't know which cards are good and which are not, and what is the best for the price, etc.

well, i guess this is a start... any opinions?

Dude, hehe, the case link just points to the i7 processor xD
Which case do you mean exactly?
Okay, so, for motherboard, i'd choose this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($189)
Gigabyte UD3R, very good budget mobo, good reviews.
Definitely the HD5850 if you want good gaming, so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($260)
RAM(DDR3-1600, 8-8-8):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($165)
Fine PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($110)
Good HDD(1000GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($90)
Very good CPU cooler, and not even that expensive, great if you want to OC a little:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($36)
That's about it.

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October 20, 2009 8:37:59 PM

oh my god, how embarrassing lol

here's the case i meant to link to.

So basically the mobo, videocard and cpu all have to matchup as far as what? socket type? also, thanks for the suggestions! i'm going to read up on the links you gave and be back in a few, you're great :) 
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October 20, 2009 8:40:55 PM

Well, it's all pretty simple ;) 
CPU is i7-920, socket 1366, so it needs a socket 1366 mobo.
Videocard, well, that can fit in any motherboard with PCIe x16 2.0.
That's all
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October 20, 2009 8:47:21 PM

The HAF 922 looks the same, is a tiny bit smaller, and costs alot less than the 932.
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October 20, 2009 8:48:27 PM

The 922 is quite a bit smaller actually (midi vs full tower case), but yeah...
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October 20, 2009 8:50:53 PM

HAF 922: 22.2" x 10" x 19.7"
HAF 932: 22.7" x 9" x 21.5"

I guess everyone has their own definition of "quite a bit". The 922 is wider by an inch so it can handle larger CPU fans than the 932.
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October 20, 2009 8:53:22 PM

4373 square inch vs 4392 square inch... Yeah, I guess you're right :p 
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October 20, 2009 9:00:45 PM

yep, i went and looked at the 922 after i saw you had suggested a similar one to the one i had chose, and it seems like the one you suggested would be a better pick.

i'm so excited! haha

i'm going to have to buy windows 7 though :(  that's why I was thinking maybe I should just buy one already made like a HP or Dell. I'd have a warranty, plus windows 7 already installed and have no hassle of putting it all together, even though I kind of want to do it to say I did.

but at the same time for this price it seems i could probably get a better motherboard and graphics card than i would get with a HP or dell I guess.
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October 20, 2009 9:02:27 PM

DO NOT get a Dell or HP. They screw you by overpricing and underperforming GREATLY. Really, build your own. Plus, it's alot more fun ^^
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October 20, 2009 9:21:07 PM

hmmm what's the system builders mean?

Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once it is installed.

forgive me...
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October 20, 2009 9:23:52 PM

You can only install it on one computer, essentially. It's life is as long as the life of the computer.

Of course you could call Microsoft and say, "Hey my motherboard died, I need to reactivate my operating system."

So with the proper amount of social engineering it could last for a few computers. But I'll let your moral compass guide the way.

OEM's Operating Systems are nothing to fear, they're quite the bargain.
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October 20, 2009 9:25:04 PM

ohhhh
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October 20, 2009 9:26:48 PM

People who build their own computers use the OEM system builders version. It just means that you can't call Microsoft for support, but when was the last time you had to do that? I always use the OEM system builders version and haven't had a problem yet.
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October 20, 2009 9:40:48 PM

Yes, reactivating an OEM version is hit or miss because it's against the license agreement. That shouldn't stop anyone from buying the OEM version.
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October 20, 2009 9:47:35 PM

sooooooooo i'm going to purchase some parts soon i think!

i'm nervous and excited at the same time haha
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October 20, 2009 9:48:48 PM

I can understand ;) 
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October 20, 2009 10:09:21 PM

what setup do you have mizzl?
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October 20, 2009 10:14:46 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
Yes, reactivating an OEM version is hit or miss because it's against the license agreement. That shouldn't stop anyone from buying the OEM version.


Certainly not, sorry if I came across as against them, quite the opposite. I'd highly recommend buying an OEM version - as I have for myself.

I misread your post and didn't realize you were speaking in regards to how often a motherboard dies and you have to call MS to reactivate, it is definitely a rare occurrence, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
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October 21, 2009 1:50:36 AM

just bought the antec 900, intel core i7 920, and the gigabyte motherboard.


howeverrrrrrrrrr, the video card is not available at newegg or amazon right now. so while i'm waiting for that card, would you like to elaborate on why you'd recommend it? and is there another that can compete with it for the price?
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October 21, 2009 1:58:43 AM

with a name like ominous prime, how could i not take your advice.

it says ETA of the 23rd so i'll wait a few days and see what happens :) 

i'm so giddy. i already am expecting to have all my parts and in the middle of putting them together run into a road block lol and i can see myself getting soooo frustrated... but oh well should be fun.
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October 21, 2009 2:01:44 AM

OK.... You should really cable manage as it will maximize performance, air flow wise. Umm... For a new builder i would have suggested the HAFs since, there tooless and easy for new users to make a computer, they also come with a template for Mobo placing. Video card concerns, go with the 4870s I think that'd best suite your price range since. DX11 has a long way to go before its mainstream and its nearly 100$ more than a 4870 so the XFX 1gb 4870 sold on Newegg is a good video card. And since the i7 mobos are both SLI/Crossfire capable. get two of those cards to crossfire them for some epic performance on graphics.

Link to the card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 21, 2009 2:23:40 AM

I doubt you'll run into a road block, just read some guides so you can feel more comfortable. It's pretty much just plug and play, but be patient, and gentle your first time ;) 

Aznshinobi I have to disagree, while DX11 may have a while to go before it's mainstream, it will go a great ways in terms of future proofing his system.

Also the gains from a 4870 to a 5850 are substantial. I'd recommend reading that benchmark I linked it earlier. In Far Cry 2, a 5850 is hanging with a 4870x2
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October 21, 2009 2:24:36 AM

hmmmmm thanks for your reply azn... i hate to say this, but i don't' really know what crossfire is and how to do it :(  i'm such a newb.

but will look into it and read up and try to learn a bit
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October 21, 2009 2:25:45 AM

Crossfire is when you hook up more than one ATI graphics card to run simultaneously and share the load

SLI is when you hook up more than one Nvidia graphics card
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October 21, 2009 2:30:51 AM

so would i just have to stick both in the motherboard and it's good to go, or are there other steps i'd have to take as well?
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October 21, 2009 2:32:01 AM

Stick both in the board, link them together with a Crossfire bridge, then enable the second one in ATI Catalyst
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October 21, 2009 2:42:10 AM

just got the power supply suggested by mizzl, and the intel core i7!!!

both from amazon, they had better price by a little, and faster shipping, cuz i have prime.
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October 21, 2009 2:55:41 AM

just realized i've basically purchased the computer that mizzl suggested, lol.



and i'm glad i kept looking and found the antec 900. it looks much sweeter and is cheaper also. seems like it will have good airflow, and got great reviews!
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October 21, 2009 3:01:27 AM

The 900 is nice, but it has a lot of dust buildup in a short period of time. I'd go for the 902 if you like it's looks. the 902 has dust filters.

Also, this is the case I just ordered, will have it Thursday.

If you want a wild card with some awesome features:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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October 21, 2009 3:08:38 AM

hmm i don't know about that one. but i was actually debating for a while and had the 902 in my cart and then changed it cuz i thought the 900 would be fine and it was cheaper. but the 902 looks really sweet. so is that the only difference in the 900 and 902? the dust filters?

did you mean you got the wildcard you mentioned or you got the 902?
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October 21, 2009 3:13:20 AM

and by the way... if i were to be interested in overclocking, is that something I should do while building, or can that be done later on?
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October 21, 2009 3:25:52 AM

Yes, I purchased the K-62, sorry for the confusion. And you can overclock at any time through the bios.
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October 21, 2009 3:29:21 AM

Ok, ummm JT in my opinion even though your a new builder, this will prob be your comp for a while so go with the 902. It keeps the dust out which leads to better performance in the long run. Also, it has cable management cut outs and even as a new builder it will allow you later to improve airflow. Airflow is how easily air moves through the case. Which also will affect case temps, your cpu overclocking ability(varies) etc. And Ominous i see where your coming with the 5000s. And i second it, i just think its cheaper. Lol i don't work yet XD
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October 21, 2009 3:34:07 AM

And the 902 has quite a bit of new features compared to the 900, not just dust filters.
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October 21, 2009 3:35:57 AM

yep, i'm gonna go with the 902 i think. i took a little break from all of this and am playing a game of madden. after this game i'll probably come back and pull the trigger on the 902 :) 
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October 21, 2009 3:37:08 AM

by the way, thanks again to all of you guys, you've been very very helpful
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October 21, 2009 3:47:36 AM

lol well I'm glad you see my perspective Aznshinobi, but yeah if you're strapped for cash a 4xxx series from ATI would be the route to go, but for performance and future proofing the 5xxx series is the way to go. You just have to make it fit your budget.

If you need help overclocking, we'll be here Jt. :) 
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October 21, 2009 4:06:00 AM

so you just got a case prime? what is your setup going to look like?
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October 21, 2009 4:59:04 AM

wow, total is 984. i think only things left are graphics card and windnows 7... daym!
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October 21, 2009 5:14:42 AM

did you already pick out a monitor? says you only have keyboard and mouse
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October 21, 2009 5:22:32 AM

oh sorry, yes.

i bought a monitor about 2 months ago and have been using it with my old laptop haha.


i have this one:

i love this monitor :) 

also, i see that it's 1920x1080 will that affect anything since in the original post i said my resolution was 1920x1200?
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October 21, 2009 5:36:52 AM

dang guys, totally forgot about optical drive!

anything special i need to look out for? ide or sata? will any old dvd burner work?
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October 21, 2009 10:29:33 AM

yeah, optical drive is easy... If you have an old one, it'll be fine... New one, look for SATA. Opticals are cheap...
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October 21, 2009 10:31:08 AM

And about your resolution: Don't worry, 1920x1200 i believe is only more widescreen... Not much dif.
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October 21, 2009 2:10:17 PM

1920x1200 is less widescreen :) 
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