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1500-2000$ i7 Gaming Rig, Ordering today!

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October 20, 2009 7:56:49 PM

Sup homies.

I've been planning on getting this rig for a while but all the parts have changed since my last post on TH, so i will be compiling a master list.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Today/Tomorrow

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Headphones, Monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: Preferably not 3rd party

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes (Crossfire)

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Haven't decided between SLI or Crossfire.

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Parts;

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (I will be buying this from Micro Center for a cheaper price)

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (I really want to experiment with Crossfire with these, good idea?)

HDD's:
x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (Will be running in RAID 0 for OS's and software)

x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (For storage, haven't decided between RAID or not)

CASE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (Will also be buying from Micro Center for cheaper price)

RAM:
x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (This is subject to change, i just put the most expensive/powerful RAM I could find)

MOBO:
Undecided
* (Preferably has 2 X16 lanes for Crossfire, can support all my RAM)

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
* (Will this be enough to support all im running? I would like to stay Corsair for my PSU's as well)

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Well there you have it, all of these are subject to change and i want to know what you guys think. If the 5870's in Crossfire aren't a good match for the i7 or maybe just not what im looking for, should I wait for the DX11 Nvidia line cards? Comments/Criticisms welcome!










October 20, 2009 8:01:18 PM

Wow everything for your build is right on the money. I like modular power supplies because they're easier to work with.
I like the 5870, but I would still wait for the GTX 3XX cards. Most games out there run better on nNvidia cards.
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October 20, 2009 8:04:09 PM

the asus pt6 v2 if you got the cash or asrock extreme x58 on a budget
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October 20, 2009 8:10:28 PM

Memory latencies are 8-8-8, but you can get faster, and since you want the fastest, go for 7-7-7. And while we're at it, why so much ram? 6GB is mooore than enough, so except for if you do professional stuff like CAD or Photoshop, don't bother purchasing a second set. Also, unless you have two 2560x1600 screens, which you don't, don't bother getting two HD5870's. I'd suggest getting two HD5850's if you so desparately need Xfire. Last: I suggest googling your psu's Xfire capability more, I read/heard somewhere that for HD58xx Xfire you need 2 12V rails... Dunno.
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October 20, 2009 8:17:37 PM

fastest ddr3 ram is actually 6-7-6-18
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October 20, 2009 8:20:01 PM

obsidian86 said:
fastest ddr3 ram is actually 6-7-6-18

Really? That must be space-RAM or something :p 
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October 20, 2009 8:24:41 PM

mizzl said:
Really? That must be space-RAM or something :p 


I have this ram. It's the Mushkin Redline. I have it overclocked to 1800 Mhz, but the timings are 7-7-7-20.
They run at 1600Mhz with 6-7-6-18 timing with no problem.
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October 20, 2009 8:26:13 PM

mizzl said:
Memory latencies are 8-8-8, but you can get faster, and since you want the fastest, go for 7-7-7. And while we're at it, why so much ram? 6GB is mooore than enough, so except for if you do professional stuff like CAD or Photoshop, don't bother purchasing a second set. Also, unless you have two 2560x1600 screens, which you don't, don't bother getting two HD5870's. I'd suggest getting two HD5850's if you so desparately need Xfire. Last: I suggest googling your psu's Xfire capability more, I read/heard somewhere that for HD58xx Xfire you need 2 12V rails... Dunno.


What RAM would you suggest in its place? Would you also reccomend waiting for the new Nvidia GPU's?
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October 20, 2009 8:27:07 PM

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IS your system mainly just for gaming as you posted? No game at the moment requires 4gb or more from my knowledge. http://tsutton.site90.net/imgs/signature_smiley1.jpg What games are you looking to play at optimal graphic settings?


Anything, i just want to have perfect framerates on everything haha.
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October 20, 2009 8:27:58 PM

Well, for starters, scrap the 2nd memory set and buy the exact same memory (Corsair Dominator), but the with 7-7-7 timings :p ... And I wouldn't suggest waiting for NVidia GPU's, just because the HD58xx are already so awesome and I'm a little bit of an ATI fanboy so dont mind me :p 
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October 20, 2009 8:36:44 PM

Thats an expensive case for only two 120mm fans. I cant imagine it has the airflow of an Antec 1200 or HAF 932.
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October 20, 2009 8:37:44 PM

dndhatcher said:
Thats an expensive case for only two 120mm fans. I cant imagine it has the airflow of an Antec 1200 or HAF 932.

This. Get an Antec 1200/902 or CM HAF 932/922
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October 20, 2009 8:40:15 PM

poeple have actually gotten the redlines down to 6-6-6-18
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October 20, 2009 8:45:06 PM

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How much are you planning on overcloking it by?


I'm going to try and get it up to 3.6 at least, I'm still trying to decide on a heatsink, or even might just the WC the entire rig.
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October 20, 2009 8:46:13 PM

dndhatcher said:
Thats an expensive case for only two 120mm fans. I cant imagine it has the airflow of an Antec 1200 or HAF 932.


I love the case personally and it's been on my to-buy list for a while. And yeah its airflow actually isn't very great but i've seen watercooling setups installed inside that have fascinated me. I'll def. be adding more cooling to it if i get, let it be aircooled or liquid.
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October 20, 2009 9:00:51 PM

obsidian86 said:
poeple have actually gotten the redlines down to 6-6-6-18

Wow....that's some insane timing for DDR3 Ram. I'll have to try it with my Redlines.
All I know is that I get a 7.9/7.9 rating in Windows 7 withe the Redlines. Windows 7 only wants the latest and greatest
in order to get a high rating. My i7 920 is only getting a 7.6 rating? WTF? It's the bottleneck right now in my computer.
Everything else is 7.8 or higher.
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October 20, 2009 9:20:12 PM

The Windows "Performance" ration is BS. Run some real benches.

Overall, good build. But like said above, it's WAY over priced. Get a HAF 932/Antec 900/1200.
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October 20, 2009 9:42:22 PM

I kinda already see one problem being that even before the motherboard this rig is reaching well over the posted $2000 cap for the budget.
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October 20, 2009 9:48:18 PM

Shadow703793 said:
The Windows "Performance" ration is BS. Run some real benches.

Overall, good build. But like said above, it's WAY over priced. Get a HAF 932/Antec 900/1200.



Yes, I agree with you that Windows Rating is B.S.
I have Everest and 3DMark '06 and I think those ratings are B.S. as well.

I always like to compare apples to apples. Having 2 systems next to each other is the best way for me to know
what is faster. Everyone configures their computer differently. I never get the same scores
every time I run 3DMark06. I just did some tweaks last night, so I think I'm going to run it again to see
what my scores are, but whatever the score is going to be, its not going to make a difference in my system.
I'm not going know if it got faster or slower?

Lastly, my computer is fast as hell compared any other computer I have come face to face with. That's the only
benchmark I need.
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October 20, 2009 9:50:58 PM

Pretty close to my build cept I am gett the Antec 1200 w/antec psu.

This is the RAM I am using

mushkin Redlihttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

Mobo I suggest either the Aus P6T Deluxe V2 or the Rampage II Extreme. For my build I am going with the Rampage.

Rax
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October 21, 2009 2:44:12 AM

Raxus said:
Oops, won't let me edit the ram so here it is a little more cleaned up

mushkin Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Goddamn that RAM is quick, would anyone suggest this for a gaming build or is it not worth the extra price?
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October 21, 2009 6:27:50 AM

Just stick to good old CL7 or even 8, that ram is not worth the price premium - read the Tom's article about how Core i7s aren't affected much by extra tight timings or extra high frequencies. If you want bragging rights then it's worth it.
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October 21, 2009 2:53:50 PM

darksupreme said:
CPU cooler FTW :http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/prolimatech-mega-shadow-...

AND IT LOOKS BAD ASS just go for the ati much muchhh better and cheaper


This is the best air cooler on the market. It constantly sells out everywhere I see it. It was created by former engineers who created the TRUE so
you know it's gotta be good. They're going for $70 - $90 just for the heatsink. It only comes with one set of fan brackets so you'll have to buy another
set to do a push-pull set up. I believe it also has different size fan brackets so you can mount 120 X 25mm fans and 120 X 38mm fans for extreme air cooling. This thing was made to cool the i7, so you'll have to get the AMD kit if you want to use it on a Phenom II.

I have this cooler (not the black one) and it is awesome. After buying the fans and everything, it came out to $120.
It is well worth the money. I also have the Corsair H50 and it doesn't stack up to the Prolimatech
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October 21, 2009 4:24:34 PM

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6bg is s really not needed, there is not much point in going over 4gb http://tsutton.site90.net/imgs/signature_smiley1.jpg

socket 1366 wants tri channel ram for optimum performance not dual, it defeats the purpose of socket 1366 .so its 3,6,12,24,48 gb of ram for i7 920/940/950/960/965/975
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October 21, 2009 4:58:04 PM

jbakerlent said:
Just stick to good old CL7 or even 8, that ram is not worth the price premium - read the Tom's article about how Core i7s aren't affected much by extra tight timings or extra high frequencies. If you want bragging rights then it's worth it.



Well here is some cheaper Ram that is still fast:

Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rax
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October 21, 2009 5:02:47 PM

So much RAM links lol!

Any other criticisms on the build dudes?
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October 21, 2009 5:06:33 PM

any ideas on a cpu cooler?
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October 21, 2009 5:13:58 PM

Again this is from my build. There are more out there cheaper, but I really like this unit and the reviews on it are fantastic.

Prolimatech Megahalems CPU Cooler
http://www.crazypc.com/products/prolimatech-megahalem-5...

Thing to remember about this guy is it comes with no fans, Also if you want a push/pull setups you need to get a extra set of hangers for the fans. Is there things out there cheaper and less of a hassel You bet, this is just what I went with ;) 

Rax
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October 21, 2009 8:31:55 PM

well im assuming since ur not taking me and raxus advice which is cool here is a very good cpu cooler thats dirt cheap
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 21, 2009 9:13:33 PM

You can also now get the Xigmatek S1283 ($26 after MIR) and mounting brackets for $7. Or get the Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283-V ($45) which already has 1366 mounting. They are both a bit better than the hyper 212 and a bit more expensive.
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October 21, 2009 9:20:23 PM

true ,tis completely up to u my friend
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October 24, 2009 12:09:13 AM

If gaming is...the main thing then trash the SSDs and Raids on the HDD, just get a 1 7200rpm HDD like a WD 640GB or a Samsung Spinpoint, Instead of your corsair dominator, get Micron 2000mhz 6GB triple channel with good CL timings, and expensive motherboard (300+range,i recommend EVGA classified) with a nice soundcard. Your hard drive will have no effect on the FPS you get on your games, with the hundreds you will be spending on SSD's and Raiding HDDs, your maps and games will load a mere couple seconds faster but where it really counts (ram,mobo,gpu,cpu,nice monitor) you will have what it takes if you save on the storage and spend on where the horsepower comes from.
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January 9, 2010 7:03:29 PM

masterasia said:
I have this ram. It's the Mushkin Redline. I have it overclocked to 1800 Mhz, but the timings are 7-7-7-20.
They run at 1600Mhz with 6-7-6-18 timing with no problem.



what does these values represent ?
6-7-6-18 and 7-7-7-20 ?

what are these things ?
please explain this....
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January 10, 2010 12:40:09 AM

Those values are called the Cas Latency. This is basically how fast the memory can deliver its output. The lower the latency then the faster the memory can deliver and thus improving performance where possible. I can't really explain it that well but gooogle Cas Latency and you will get many explanations.
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