Hi
I am looking to custom build a PC, mainly for gaming. I would like to know if the below hardware is a good choice for the price which is £474:
CPU - Intel i5 750 (2.6 GHz, 8Mb)
Memory - 2GB (DDR3 1333)
HDD - 160GB SATA
MoBo - Asrock P55M Pro X-fire DDR3 2133 x4 P55 chipset
Graphics - ATI 4850 1Gb (PCI Express)
Thanks for any suggestions.
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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: the closer the better, a couple of weeks
BUDGET RANGE: No more than £500
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming is the main reason for this build
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Open to any suggestions. Mainly looking at http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk though for the moment.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: UK
PARTS PREFERENCES: As its gaming the Graphics card is an important factor. The parts that I am a bit confused on are do I actally need a 4 core processor (i.e. the i5) or would a Core Duo suffice? Also, I know next to nothing about MoBo choices.
OVERCLOCKING: Possibly, but I wouldn't do it myself. If the company offered it I might go for it.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Possibly if the price is right
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Any, not really relevent.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Any suggestions on recommended companies would be welcomed as well. I have looked around as much as possible, but any advise is much appriciated.
Good UK online retailers in my experience are scan.co.uk, novatech.co.uk, overclockers.co.uk, ebuyer.com, aria.co.uk. At the very least they are good for choice.
Oh right, I didn't know it was that important. Well the monitor is a 19" TFT (at the moment) and it would be good to run the games at 1280x1024 but if the cards are too expensive for that, 1024x768 would be fine.
I guess the main question I have is do I need a quad core (i.e. i5) or can I go for a cheaper Core Duo and then spend the extra money on a more expensive graphics card.
Oh right, I didn't know it was that important. Well the monitor is a 19" TFT (at the moment) and it would be good to run the games at 1280x1024 but if the cards are too expensive for that, 1024x768 would be fine.
I guess the main question I have is do I need a quad core (i.e. i5) or can I go for a cheaper Core Duo and then spend the extra money on a more expensive graphics card.
I think 4850 is enough for 1280x1024, or if you want DirectX11, you can go 5750 or 5770. I would stick with I5, its not that expensive, and will be a good basis for further upgrades, if decide on them at a later time.
About multi GPU, the first echelon of boards are Asus P55 PRO, MSI GD65 and Gigabyte ud4(P) (there are just a few Evga/Asrock boards where I live so I have no xp with them). For single GPU, any board at price point below the above boards, which has all the connectors/slots you might need.
Two more points. I would get 4GB of RAM, and a better HDD (like WD640 black or Samsung F3) since they tend to fill up really quick with today's games.
At that budget an i5 might be too much. For a straight gaming machine, a dual core AMD AthonII/AM3 with a stronger graphics card like a 5770 would perform better.
I only know US pricing but here is a parts list with some newegg links so you can see some specs.
I think thats all you had listed above. Those components will run a nice HD LCD at 1920x1080 on the latest games at high (maybe not ultra high) graphics settings.
A quality power supply and a case with good airflow are also necessary for the reliability and longevity of your system. Let me know if you want some examples of those.
Hey. Thanks for your reply, but I think you have the currency conversion mixed up. All that comes to $437 which is about £260, about half what I was going to spend. (Obviously I have to have some for a case and cooling)
However, somthing interesting you said: you think it's worth spending less money on a CPU and more on a GPU?
Low resolutions like yours actually put more stress on the CPU than higher resolutions. I would stick with the i5 build. I would bump it up to 4GB, though.
You don't really need the integrated GPU on that motherboard. It's a nice motherboard, but if you prefer a full-size ATX board you might want to check this one out:
Case, cooling and particularly PSU should not be skimped on afterthoughts. Poor power will make for a computer with flakey problems, lockups, etc. A bad power supply can even damage the rest of your PC. Any decent power supply is going to cost you 50. Like this Corsair 450W.
http://www.dabs.com/products/corsa [...] refs=50113
The problem is we are now getting above your budget, which is what I figured would happen. Its very hard to make a decent i5 gaming system with less than $800 US. Going back to an AM3 motherboard and a Phenom II x3 720 might be necessary.
http://www.dabs.com/products/amd-p [...] 4294951761
I would agree with the motherboard and HDD shortstuff posted. (but he missed that you had an i5 CPU in the same build )
In general, having a fast dual core CPU and a strong GPU gives better gaming performance than a slower quad core and a weak GPU. Most games are more GPU intensive than CPU intensive. With a 5770 you will be able to replace your monitor with a nice 22-28 inch 1380x1050 to 1920x1080 LCD and still be able to play well. Its a good choice if you plan to keep it 3+ years.
Message edited by dndhatcher on 10-23-2009 at 12:04:18 AM
Ok, fair enough. Having looked at the prices of the things I thought of as negligable, that CPU does seem a better option. (I never knew there which things as triple cores).
So rounding up all the suggestions in to one, how about this configuration:
Coming to £505, but I will shop around a bit anyway.
The have 2 questions now I suppose:
Is a 450W PSU powerful enough for the graphics card and CPU?
No one has said much about the memory. I know this is a bottle neck for computers and is therefore a very important factor. Is there any suggestions on what to look out for in the specs for memory?
RE Memory: CL7 is going to give you a small performance increase over CL9 and better overclocking options. You might see if Gskills Ripjaws CL8s are the same price as Corsairs CL9s.
RE: Power, yes that corsair 450 is will be great paired with a single 5770.
I don't know if it's too late, but If you go with a 600W PSU, you will be able to crossfire.
Next year the same GPU will be much less expensive and will greatly help you,especially if you're going to have a 1920x1080 screen.
Just a thought.... that I didn't have 2 years ago... and now I've got a PSU doing nothing.....