Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

I7 920 based Game System running windows 7

Last response: in Systems
Share
October 21, 2009 9:15:50 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:

This Month depending on deal and rebates

BUDGET RANGE:

$1000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:

Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:

keyboard, mouse, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:

Any depending on deals

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type

Asus, Intel i7 1366, 6gig ram

OVERCLOCKING:

Yes , SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION:

1280×1024 will need a new monitor I guess at some stage maybe not in this build will look to purchase when a good deal comes up

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Trying to keep this thing quite hence the case and power supply

Currenty looking at

Antec CP-850 850W Continuous Power CP

Antec P183 Black Aluminum


Purchased a i7 920 do rev b at the weekend

Need to work out memory,graphic card,motherboard, maybe cooling.
October 21, 2009 9:41:18 PM

You can drop down to this PSU with no problems even if you decided to crossfire
Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the rest of the parts, here's a nice setup

ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS EAH5850/G/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and here's a monitor as well

DELL S2309W Full HD Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c...

Comes to about $950 plus a case.
m
0
l
October 21, 2009 9:57:17 PM

So it's 1000 without the CPU? that should be possible.

This ASRock board comes with extra wide PCI-E spacing, for that future second video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not normally my first choice in brand, but the price and feature set make this one too good to pass up.

For excellent air cooling at very quiet levels, I doubt you can do better than this Noctua:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory... 1.65V, 1600Mhz or better, CL7:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finding a 5850 is hard, but that's what you want...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

m
0
l
Related resources
October 22, 2009 2:55:10 AM

Thanks guys dont worry too much about things like harddisks + dvd drives as they are easy to pick up and also spec out :-)

You both agree on the ram might try and see if I can hunt it down for a little bit less, I get a little bit lost on ram lower the voltage is better ? and then the timings I just get my eyes start to glaze over when I start reading about it.


You both go for the 5850 will have a read up on it and see if I can lock that in.

Cooling thats ok I can wait for that for a while and work out what's best with examples given.


Motherboards both Asus related companies I found it hard to find a review on the ASRock board could find it on the super board but not the one you listed ( newegg guys gave it a roasting)


P6T Deluxe V2 lots of people said I should get this but it appears a little $$$
ASUS Rampage II GENE I liked this board but no one said if it was any good reviews said it was very good.

Bothboards when using SLI crossfire hang over the other PCI cards unlike the ASRock :-)

PS about the power the PSU I selected is for the case and cheaper and runs pretty cool any reason why I should not go for it is there any reason its bad I know its got lots of Watts is that the only reason ?

PS thanks for helping out


m
0
l
October 22, 2009 4:54:22 AM

The CP-850 is an excellent PSU. I think he didn't look at your price and figured the 750 would be less.

As I said I don't normally recommend ASRock, but I thought it fit your budget and needs more. ASRock boards in general have reviewed well recently. They tend to perform well, and the only question mark is usually longevity. I did a survey recently and was surprised by the number of responders that had used an ASRock board continuously for 4 or more years with no problems, so maybe I have been too hard on them in the past.

5850s come up on newegg almost daily, but the supply is just a trickle and they go fast. Just keep checking and snap one up when you see it. Performance is better than a 4890, you get DX11, and eyefinity.
m
0
l
October 22, 2009 5:05:20 AM

Just my time: for RAM higher frequencies are better to a point as long as latencies remain low. Generally, it is best to stick with DDR3 1600 with CL7 or 1333/6-7. The voltages must be 1.65 or lower to work with a X58 mobo.

Proximon: you are correct about the PSU.
m
0
l
October 22, 2009 6:03:38 AM

Thanks guys for all your comments its helping me out heaps, will do some digging and see what the best price I can get the ram for as it looks like in the last few months the price went pretty high for ddr3. I can see its the same for 5850 when things are in short supply it allows people to hike up the price and also create more hype.
m
0
l
October 22, 2009 6:26:42 AM

Well, the prices should be controlled by ATI... the XFX is up right now but it's a bit pricey at $290.
m
0
l
November 1, 2009 8:59:56 PM

Picked up the case this weekend as well at a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS for $60 will use this for storage.

Still to buy

Motherboard
Memory
Graphics Card
Case fan
CPU cooler

I was maybe looking to do a raid 0 boot/system drive if so what size disks and any recommendations. Raptors and SSD are too $$$ so will have to stick with STATA.

Ideas ?
m
0
l
November 1, 2009 10:17:34 PM

At this point even an inexpensive SSD is going to be faster than a RAID.

I don't think there are any cheap drives that are going to RAID 0 better than your single Caviar Black.
m
0
l
November 1, 2009 11:07:26 PM

The Caviar Black on newegg was reported by WD as not supported in raid.

What's a good SSD priced at these days or model I through the cheaper SSD where the older slower kind.
m
0
l
November 1, 2009 11:12:03 PM

justmytime said:
What's a good SSD priced at these days or model I through the cheaper SSD where the older slower kind.


What?



WD's Caviar Blacks support RAID.
m
0
l
November 2, 2009 2:21:46 AM

Quote from WD

"The WD Caviar Black SATA drive is not a RAID edition drive. When creating a RAID, we recommend that you use our RAID edition drives. We cannot guarantee RAID functionality of our desktop drives for reasons listed in the article below.

Title: What is the difference between Desktop edition and RAID (Enterprise) edition hard drives?
URL: http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std... "


User Quote

Pros: Confirmed you Can NOT use in RAID Anymore! TLER Utility is disabled on on the newer versions of these drives (the ones newegg is selling now)
Cons: I have 4 other WD black 1TB drives in a RAID 5 array... no problems at all in nearly 1 year. TLER and RAID 5 works fine on them under heavy load.
Other Thoughts: The drive i just bought DOES NOT work with TLER and therefore can not be used with RAID. You need to pay WD extra $70 for their "Raid Edition" marketing scheme.

Don't be fooled like i did... This was a real garbage move by WD.... I'm thinking about changing drive manufacturer preferences!
m
0
l
November 2, 2009 6:18:25 AM

Interesting although they are talking about a different RAID config. In RAID 0 there is no dropping a drive from the RAID... doing so would bring down the system. No redundancy in RAID 0 means no need to limit error recovery times.

I think someone should ask WD directly about RAID 0 and non-TLER drives.

But on to the SSD question:

The new Kingston SSDNow V-series drives are very affordable and will mop the floor with any platter type RAID config, at least in sequential reads (gaming and OS load times). Other benchmarks will be closer in performance though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That the 128GB version, and I don't consider anything smaller viable for a gamer. OS plus 2 or 3 games is 128GB.

m
0
l
November 2, 2009 5:43:00 PM

Thanks again for the helpfull hints :-) I had seen others saying some thign along the lines of Raid 0 supported but if you wanted to move up to raid 5 or 10 for safer data security then this was not the drive.

I saw the talk about the new Trim function in win7/2008 not being supported but I am sure a firmware update to the drive might fix that in later months.

The drive looks great but might be out of my price range :-( Next year I am sure SSD will drop and then it might be the time to move over.
m
0
l
November 7, 2009 5:27:37 AM

Since you are overclocking I think it comes down to two choices.

The G.skill kit has very low voltage for 1600Mhx CL9, so possibly you'll be able to squeeze lower timings out of it with more voltage.

The 1600Mhz CL8 kit from Corsair is a pretty good deal though. And you are guaranteed the better timings.

m
0
l
!