5870 vs 4890 crossfire

Today, the 4890cf will outperform the 5870 in dx10, but not by a large margin. In time the 5870 will grow in its abilities, if the 4xxx driver arch is to be trusted as any sort of precedent. I think the 5870 would be a safer investment in the long term, especially with a CF option open as the prices drop.

the best reason i want to upgrade is because i think ill go crazy listening to that thing again.Its like a tree blower XD.And i got an response in 2 min. lol

omg response in 2sec lol i dont no im not that much against crossfire as long as theres not much noise.Are there any sug. for that?

Open Catalyst Control Centre. Under ATI Overdrive Screen:

Unlock overdrive settings.
Enable ATI Overdrive.
Change fan speeds as needed to accommodate your card temp/fan noise requirement.

Running cool and quiet under load? Got back to CCC and stark overclocking  

5870 all day, it'll be quieter and almost as powerful... not saying the 4890's in x fire are bad, but i think it's more logical to get the 5870.

5870 FTW!

+1 future drivers will increase performance up to 30%

wow i guess i will be getting a 5870 lol. i was just wondering how does 5770 crossfire compare against 4890 crossfire.....

Performance wise the HD 4890's will win over the HD 5770's. But you'll miss DX11 and eat up a lot more power.

5970 FTW!!! The engineering versions are 13.5" long. Hopefully they can knock it down to 12" or less when the final version comes out, otherwise everyone will be forced to buy a new case.

Ok... I've been down this road. I had a 4870 and bought a second for Crossfire. This was a few weeks back. The top card got SO hot it overheated and crashed. It was hitting 102C. The bottom card only 80C. The top fan was running 100%, so you want to listen to fans running. Oh boy! I ended up selling both cards, taking a bit of a hit and buying a 5870. Let me tell you the 5870 is pretty quiet even at load. It idles in the low 40C and I don't think its gone over 72-73C in gaming yet.

PS... your Phenom isn't bottlenecking crap, just stick with it. Get the new cards and you will see a difference.

My Phenom's not bottlenecking?I thought it was since i get 30fps average in Crysis Warhead but a website said it had over 40 fps average (1920 X 1200 4x aa)

holy crap i found pictures of 5970 (ty masterasia) !!!!! i bet it'll cost $800 xD and what happen ed to 5870 x2? did they forget to release it o.0

It might be but the review probably had a monster CPU oveclocked to get that 40 fps average. But you said you'll get an i5 soon too.


Those pictures are engineering samples and do not reflect what the final product will look like. It will get a PCB and cooler shrink. The name seems to be a point of confusion right now. Some are calling it the HD 5970 while others are calling it the HD 5870x2.

Crysis is a BAD benchmark when comparing systems. You can have a HUGE difference in systems and only gain like 2 FPS. Besides, I am not going to get into the whole bottlenecking debate in this thread. Just remember, every PC has bottlenecks, they are EVERYWHERE. Your CPU waits on the L1 cache, which waits on the L2, then L3, Then RAM, then Hard Drive. You just try to reduce the bottlenecks a little. An OCed i7 is going to outperform the same setup on a Phenom X3 720. However, if you have an i7 with a 4870 and a Phenom x3 720 with a 5870... Guess who wins?

uhhhhh........x3? SO I SHOULD STICK WITH MY PHENOM??!!

The Phenom II x3 are excellent processors, that outside of synthetic benchmarks, hold up very well in the CPU/GPU balancing act.

would a corsair 750tx be enough for a 5870 and a corsair hydro h50 (Phenom x3 )

MORE than enough. A solid 550 or 600w would do the trick.

I have a Phenom X3 720, as well as (2) 4890s in crossfire. I have mine unlocked to 4 cores and clocked up to 3.5 Ghz and it doesn't bottleneck my cards, even when they're overclocked too.

you guys have any estimates on when they will release the 5970/5870x2?

Yeah, GTX300 launch week.

i cant find any retailers currently selling HD 5870s T.T

Whens GTX300 coming out?

January it seems.

ok and do know any retailers that currently has 5870s in stock?

Nope. And none of them should at the moment. I know of a few instances where retailers bought a few cards from other retailers just to fill orders.

Demand is simply higher than ATi and TSCM anticipated and yields were below expectations.

However, nVidia fans pointing out the low yields and availability for HD 5000 series cards might want to consider how things look for nVidia given that TSCM will also provide them with their 40 nm chips.

Worse for nVidia is that ATi simply buys chips individually as they are produced but nVidia buys a whole wafer at a time. Meaning every piece ATi buys works while every piece nVidia buys might only have 10% working chips.

well i guess im postponing my upgrade =(

hey I just hooked up a 4890 to a old 32 bit Pentium 4 board. I should've checked compatibilty first because I don't have that motherboard anymore. I wrote a complete description of the situation on anouther thread if anyone would like to comment.

i dont get you and as long as you have a motherboard with a pci express x16 or somthin like that it should work

With an old P4 CPU, he probably had an AGP based motherboard.

would that card screw things up I feel like waving my hands in the air running around screaming I'm new I don't know what to do. I had a hd4650 in it and it was running great

I can't find any liturature on the board and I can't get tech support from gateway because its to old

well the simples way is to change mobos . other than that i think theres no other way

I'm thinking the same thing I'm gonna have to troubleshoot all the components. I've got a 790FX-GD70 Sitting on the shelf waiting for the AMD 965 to come in the mail. I was hoping to use the old board for business purposes. Looks like I screwed myself trying to play with new toys... At least P4 boards are cheap