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8 gigs with GA-890GPA-UD3H

Forum Motherboards & Memory : Gigabyte 8 gigs with GA-890GPA-UD3H

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Okay hers the problem. I can run 6 gigs of ram 2 gig a stick in any dimm with out a problem. When I install the last stick in any slot I receive the dreaded blue screen of death.

I have checked each dim and they all single work no problems also. I have used 3 sticks in all configureations with no problems. The problem is only when I install the 4 stick.

I have updated to latest bios and motherboard drivers available. I am running windows 7 x64 with a Phenon 2 x4 3.4 processor.

does anyone else have this problem? :bounce:

Reply to joe2173
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You should provide info about the memory modules that you are using. Are they on on the QVL for 4 modules?

Reply to GhislainG

The memory modules are 4 CMX4GX3M2A1600c9. Corsair chips running at 9 9 9 9 24. 1600


I have found a partial solution. The Bios was forcing 1333 when the memory is speced for 1600. However this is still not completely stable. I am thinking that the bios needs to be tweaked even more. However I am not sure on other settings. I have made the latency adjustments mentioned above however there is a host of other factors that can be changed. I am not trying to overclock just trying to get this set up for opt proformance.

Reply to joe2173

Are you running the memory at 1.65v ? The motherboard default is 1.5v.

Reply to zetabater

1600 is overclocked. Do they run stable at 1333, 9-9-9-24 timings and 1.65V? If not, did you try to increase voltage a bit since you installed 4 modules?

Reply to GhislainG

I did not up the voltage on the chips. It is set to 1.5 by default. When I movefd it to 1.65v It turned red. I am not sure if the bios does this for precautionary reasons or not.

Reply to joe2173

The default voltage for your memory is 1.65v, check with the Corsair website. I am using CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 4GB.

Reply to zetabater

DL & run this:
MemSet 4.1
capture and post both the mains screen, and the one that pops up when you click on the 'SPD' button, & post both - will try to help...

Tutorial on capturing & posting images...

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Reply to bilbat

I downloaded it but when I go to run it
says:

MemSet is only for Chipsets with Integrated Memory Controller!

Reply to joe2173

I tried uping voltage to 1.65v but still gettting the blue screen of death. Although It did seam to run longer b4 it became unstable.

Reply to joe2173

GhislainG wrote :

You should provide info about the memory modules that you are using. Are they on on the QVL for 4 modules?


just wanted to ask... What is the QVL for 4 modules?

Reply to joe2173

Are your modules on the official list and were they approved for 4 modules?

Reply to GhislainG

Corsair does not show my mother board listed. I have already asked the question if it is supported on that website just have not received reponse yet. Gigabytes website says they can use up to 32 gigs of mem.

Reply to joe2173

how about the North Bridge or front side bus what should this be set at?

Reply to joe2173

here is a different mem viewer hope this helps
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae328/joe2173/memjpg.png

Reply to joe2173

I'm sorry - I pointed you (and someone else [:lorbat:6] !) at the wrong program - usually recommend MemSet for Intel 775 boards, 'Tweaker' for everything else...) I was probably just delerious - got a cortisone shot in my shoulder joint for 'mouse shoulder' (biceps tendonitis) and hurt like hell 'till this AM, when, blessedly, it appears like it might work! [:bilbat]

You still need to click the SPD button and post that screen - the idea here is that we want to compare how the DIMMs 'think' they want to be setup (the SPD data), with how they're actually setup (the screen you've already posted)...

------------------------------ An optimist sees a glass half full; a pessimist, a glass half empty; an engineer sees a glass that's twice as large as required...
Reply to bilbat

I have a 890GPA-UD3H with 4GB of Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 and set my memory the following way:

. Press Del to enter BIOS, the main BIOS screen will appear.
. Press Ctrl+F1 to see the advanced BIOS menus.
. Select menu item 'MB Intelligent Tweaker', all BIOS changes will be on this screen.
. Set item 'Set Memory Clock' to Manual.
. Set item 'Memory Clock' to x8.00, this sets memory to 1600.
. Under 'DRAM Configuration' set the items to the following values:
Unganged
Manual
9T
9T
9T
24T
2T
5T
110ns
90
110
90
10T
5T
34T
5T
. Set 'System Voltage Control' to Manual.
. Set 'DRAM Voltage ' to 1.65v, leave all others at Normal.

Save the above settings and reboot.

Good Luck

Reply to zetabater

bilbat wrote :

I'm sorry - I pointed you (and someone else [:lorbat:6] !) at the wrong program - usually recommend MemSet for Intel 775 boards, 'Tweaker' for everything else...) I was probably just delerious - got a cortisone shot in my shoulder joint for 'mouse shoulder' (biceps tendonitis) and hurt like hell 'till this AM, when, blessedly, it appears like it might work! [:bilbat]

You still need to click the SPD button and post that screen - the idea here is that we want to compare how the DIMMs 'think' they want to be setup (the SPD data), with how they're actually setup (the screen you've already posted)...



I tried this but everything is black except the selector of dim 1-4. I can post a copy of that but thought it was redundent.

Reply to joe2173

zetabater wrote :

I have a 890GPA-UD3H with 4GB of Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 and set my memory the following way:

. Press Del to enter BIOS, the main BIOS screen will appear.
. Press Ctrl+F1 to see the advanced BIOS menus.
. Select menu item 'MB Intelligent Tweaker', all BIOS changes will be on this screen.
. Set item 'Set Memory Clock' to Manual.
. Set item 'Memory Clock' to x8.00, this sets memory to 1600.
. Under 'DRAM Configuration' set the items to the following values:
Unganged
Manual
9T
9T
9T
24T
2T
5T
110ns
90
110
90
10T
5T
34T
5T
. Set 'System Voltage Control' to Manual.
. Set 'DRAM Voltage ' to 1.65v, leave all others at Normal.

Save the above settings and reboot.

Good Luck




I tried these exact settings and was extremely unstable.. Reducing it down to 1033 made it more stable but I am still getting occasional errors.

On a side note. THe memory hates Unganged. Will not even load windows in unganged mode


Message edited by joe2173 on 04-19-2010 at 12:42:34 AM
Reply to joe2173

zetabater uses 2 modules with a lower latency and you are using 4 modules. Getting 2 modules to run usually is much easier. You'll either have to increase the voltage or loosen the timings. Did you contact Corsair support? They might be able to provide you with settings that will work with your motherboard or confirm that running 4 of these modules won't work.

Reply to GhislainG

GhislainG wrote :

zetabater uses 2 modules with a lower latency and you are using 4 modules. Getting 2 modules to run usually is much easier. You'll either have to increase the voltage or loosen the timings. Did you contact Corsair support? They might be able to provide you with settings that will work with your motherboard or confirm that running 4 of these modules won't work.



I have already made inquries to corsair. It is the weekened so I dont expect they will get back to me until tomarrow. My guess is the ram is not supported.

Reply to joe2173

I thought I had posted this before, but Tom's appeared (I think - always the possibility of a mis-click?) 'gobbled' another one... GhislainG's advice is good - four sticks always require a little extra work, and any specific memory (especially 'fast' memory) may simply not work... However, I'm wondering, as this is 'brand-spankin' new tech, whether the SPDs coming out blank might be related to the underlying problem - perhaps some deficiency in the coordination between the BIOS and the hardware is not letting it 'see/read' the SPD data itself... I would like to have you try the same thing, with only one or two DIMMs in - see if the SPD button then 'works', and gets some valid tables. If not, I have another tool up my sleeve, but am always hesitant to recommend it, as it can overwrite the SPDs themselves if used incorrectly!


Message edited by bilbat on 04-19-2010 at 04:39:43 AM
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Reply to bilbat

okay still nothing with two sticks. going to check the stability of it though. anyways here is a shot of it

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae328/joe2173/mem2.png


Message edited by joe2173 on 04-19-2010 at 05:42:46 AM
Reply to joe2173

If you are able to run successfully with 4GB of memory, what are the BIOS settings? Record them from the 'DRAM Configuration' item page of menu selection 'MB Intelligent Tweaker' of the BIOS. On this page, the SPD and AUTO memory timings are also listed. How do the memory timings in use, compare to the SPD and AUTO settings?

Also on the DRAM Configuration page, the DCTs Mode should be set to 'Unganged', the default setting. If you cannot run when set to 'Unganged', one of the dual memory controllers on the Phenom may not be functioning correctly.

Reply to zetabater

BTW, CPU-Tweaker 1.4 cannot read my memory's SPD setting either, everything is blank.

Reply to zetabater

Damn! That is completely bizarre... I'm thinking they have to have an SPD, or the JEDEC 'shock troops' would've long ago parachuted in and killed everyone at Corsair [:bilbat:9]

Give this one a try: SPD Tool 0.63

...just click on File/Read/ and then the module designator - see if you get anything - and be careful clicking around; this baby'll write an SPD, which, unless you have something very specific in mind, is usually not a good thing!! :ouch:

------------------------------ An optimist sees a glass half full; a pessimist, a glass half empty; an engineer sees a glass that's twice as large as required...
Reply to bilbat

the message back from corsair. set timings to 9 9 9 9 24 at 1600. :sleep:
I guess they dont read their forum messages. Done that already.

Reply to joe2173

tried the SPDTool and I receive an error. The Bios has SPD values of 9 9 9 9 24 when set to 1600. However this configuration is not stable.

Reply to joe2173

Well, I finally hunted around a bit, and there appear to be tons of memory problems with this chipset, including things on vendor's QVLs not working! Saw stuff for ASUS, GB, and, I think MSI... Read about eight pages of eXtreme's forum for MemSet/CPU_Tweaker; all i3/i5/i7 stuff so far, but new version out - maybe worth a try: CPU Tweaker 1.5 beta 4

What I can't fathom is why the %$#^ chipset should have anything to do with the memory controller/SPD mechanism - the bloody memory controller is on the CPU! Can think of only one thing 'structural': try going to the "IGX Confguration" sub-page of the "MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)" page of the BIOS, and set "Internal Graphics Mode" to "SidePort" to see if somehow, the UMA frame buffer assignment process is ditzing up the memory controller's operation...

------------------------------ An optimist sees a glass half full; a pessimist, a glass half empty; an engineer sees a glass that's twice as large as required...
Reply to bilbat

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae328/joe2173/mem3.png
not able to read or write

Reply to joe2173

nothing on the beta version either of other program.

Reply to joe2173

hy joe,did you fix your problem already? i like to have the same config. with 2x4 gb of corsair on the same mb. greetings dirt2.

Reply to dirt2_74

i have the same mb and cpu but I put four corsair CMP4GX3M2B1600C8 this memory it's for AMD cpu and it's working very well but you, you put CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 corsair said it's for intel cpu, maybe it's the problem with your memory joe2173 ?

Reply to pierre174

I have same mobo with Phenom ii x6 1090t. I can not install the 4th ram stick as my board gives me a repeated 3 beeps and will not post. Stuck with running 12 gig

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