Fermi A2 silicon is taped out

Well a:it's Charlie and b:the troubles at TSMC are well known and c: as there isn't a plethora of DX11 games available that I want to play I don't have a problem with waiting to see how it all turns out.

It's not about DX11, it's about that precious performance crown and also about the 2009 launch that they insisted on. It will still happen on paper though, I'm sure.

As for Charlie, he's been right about it so far. You just need to look at the information he's presenting and ignore the negative writing style  

I just love the way that from his perspective it's all because Nv can't design a chip and nothing to do with TSMC's issues and also his lack of derision upon ATi for failing to order enough chips to satisfy demand, something that many others have picked up on but not Charlie, for some reason he chooses not to share his insider wisdom on why there are so few 5xxx cards to be had.

Well, sure TSMC's yields are terrible and volume's, but other 40nm products are out. That they had to go for A2 silicon means it's nV's fault, they needed to fix something. It's a common occurance, so nothing really wrong with that, other than all the hype that lead up to A1, so really c'mon, this is also nV's doing, as well as simply a bad production run. But the difference is, like I mention in the other thread, that TSMC just makes everyone else's mistakes more costly.

It's like speeding; it doesn't cause accidents in a well kept car (or bike in your case) with a good driver, but whenever something does go wrong, that speed makes the potential result much worse.

Let's just hope A2 is production ready and there's no A3.
I'd also hope that there wasn't more PR BS, but I know that this is only the beginning of the next round.  

The need to go to A2 was always a bit of a given anyway despite TSMC's probs and the (real not PR BS) timeframe for a working prototype/reviewers card was end of Q4 at the earliest IIRC, so for me he's just going over old ground trying to make it sound worse than it is (at the moment at least   ).

Who said it was?

What are you on about?

I'm not sure if you're deliberately misspelling that word or if it's just because English isn't your first language, as I've seen you use the word before, but the word is "I" not "eye" when referring to yourself. An "eye" is what is in your head so you can see.  

Fermi = CLOSED (in french)

  Fermé = Closed.

Fermi is Italian, not French, and it means "still."

For F**ks sake people.. It is named after Enrico Fermi, it is a name, not a word. Makes sense as it is a scientific computing part.. take more science classes  

Why, this is shocking news!!!      

I and others know this and have pointed it out to witcherx who still persists in posting an incorrect statement despite that. Some people eh?

I might be biased being that I work at a nuclear research lab.. but still... Silliness of some folks.