Well a:it's Charlie and b:the troubles at TSMC are well known and c: as there isn't a plethora of DX11 games available that I want to play I don't have a problem with waiting to see how it all turns out.
It's not about DX11, it's about that precious performance crown and also about the 2009 launch that they insisted on. It will still happen on paper though, I'm sure.
As for Charlie, he's been right about it so far. You just need to look at the information he's presenting and ignore the negative writing style
I just love the way that from his perspective it's all because Nv can't design a chip and nothing to do with TSMC's issues and also his lack of derision upon ATi for failing to order enough chips to satisfy demand, something that many others have picked up on but not Charlie, for some reason he chooses not to share his insider wisdom on why there are so few 5xxx cards to be had.
Well, sure TSMC's yields are terrible and volume's, but other 40nm products are out. That they had to go for A2 silicon means it's nV's fault, they needed to fix something. It's a common occurance, so nothing really wrong with that, other than all the hype that lead up to A1, so really c'mon, this is also nV's doing, as well as simply a bad production run. But the difference is, like I mention in the other thread, that TSMC just makes everyone else's mistakes more costly.
It's like speeding; it doesn't cause accidents in a well kept car (or bike in your case) with a good driver, but whenever something does go wrong, that speed makes the potential result much worse.
Let's just hope A2 is production ready and there's no A3.
I'd also hope that there wasn't more PR BS, but I know that this is only the beginning of the next round.
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Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe
The need to go to A2 was always a bit of a given anyway despite TSMC's probs and the (real not PR BS) timeframe for a working prototype/reviewers card was end of Q4 at the earliest IIRC, so for me he's just going over old ground trying to make it sound worse than it is (at the moment at least ).
I'm in full (mostly) agreement with ATI from that Hexus blurb. Nvidia is mysteriously silent on the gaming front, and full bore on CUDA. All the marketing info points to Fermi being a GPGPU more than a gaming GPU.
But the chips will be for gaming, so I don't think Nvidia has abandoned gaming. And Nvidia will never give up on the gaming side. If Nvidia wants to keep up the marketing for the CUDA business side, they need to stay prominent in the gaming side. But there is a distinct shift in where they want their market to go. It's clear to me that Fermi is a GPGPU that will also be good for gaming... unlike the last generations which were gaming GPUs that happened to also have use as GPGPUs.
Sure, they'll sell the cards to all the loyal gamers who want top notch performance. But Nvidia's betting there's more high profit volume to be made in the data analysis market, selling arrays of Fermi cards as "cheap" supercomputer replacements.
I'm not ready to put stock in Nvidia on this bet, but to me it does make sense if it works.
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Reply to Zirbmonkey
I'm not sure if you're deliberately misspelling that word or if it's just because English isn't your first language, as I've seen you use the word before, but the word is "I" not "eye" when referring to yourself. An "eye" is what is in your head so you can see.
For F**ks sake people.. It is named after Enrico Fermi, it is a name, not a word. Makes sense as it is a scientific computing part.. take more science classes
For F**ks sake people.. It is named after Enrico Fermi, it is a name, not a word. Makes sense as it is a scientific computing part.. take more science classes
Why, this is shocking news!!!
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Reply to jaydeejohn
For F**ks sake people.. It is named after Enrico Fermi, it is a name, not a word. Makes sense as it is a scientific computing part.. take more science classes
I and others know this and have pointed it out to witcherx who still persists in posting an incorrect statement despite that. Some people eh?