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April 20, 2010 4:16:38 PM

K so for 4 months now my pc keeps bsoding. I HAVE formated it 3 times,changed PSU,GPU and RAM.Nothing solved the problem.I am 100% sure that this is hardware problem cos after 3 formats to 3 different technicians i dont think it could be a coincidence.Only hardware that hasnt changes yet is MOBO,CPU and HDD.I made this to pic hoping u guys can help me find out which of those causes it so i wont spend more money for no reason.
Specs:
CPU:Intel 8300 Quad Core
RAM :Mushkin 4gb
GPU: MSI R5770 HAWK 1gb
MOBO:Asus P5QL-E
PSU: Silverstone Element 850w

Thx in advance...

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a c 304 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 6:10:17 PM

Hi newcomer and welcome to the Tom's hardware forum.

What exactly error code do you have? Is the same error code all times?
April 20, 2010 6:22:51 PM

when i had the nvidia card i was getting something like disp_drivers
now i dont remember exactly
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a c 304 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 6:23:40 PM

Seems a compatibility problem. What OS do you have?
April 20, 2010 6:26:46 PM

oh sry forgot to mention that.I had done the 2 first formats and used XP 64 bit and now at the 3rd one i used windows 7 64 bit
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 7:09:48 PM

Ok.

Download the last version driver from here.

Uninstall the current driver, reboot your rig and install the new driver. After that, test the rig with the task that you doing when the BSoD comes out.
April 20, 2010 7:43:15 PM

i can assure u it is NOT a software problem,how could it be?3 formats and hundreds of times installing drivers.I know it is a hardware problem but cant find out which part causes it.
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 7:46:47 PM

^That's why I ask you for the error code, with that we can have more details about the failing part.
a c 89 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 7:46:48 PM

BSOD's are usually RAM related. You said you tried different RAM. What are the specs of both sets of RAM? Have you manually set the RAM speed, timings, and voltage to their rated specs in the BIOS? Have you tried each stick of RAM by itself? Have you performed an overnight run of Memtest86+ to test for RAM errors?
April 20, 2010 8:26:31 PM

i m gonna post the error code when i can check it.
should i really do all these things u said about the ram?and actually i have vhanged 3 sets of RAM..
a c 89 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 8:29:45 PM

Yes, you should do all those things. Many motherboards aren't stable when using "auto" settings for the RAM. It's always a good idea to manually set all the values in the BIOS so you KNOW they're correct. Running Memtest86+ overnight is also always a good idea for any system that's having stability issues. It doesn't matter how many sets of RAM you've used if the BIOS values weren't correct for any of them.
April 20, 2010 8:32:05 PM

fact is i dont think the pc could run longer than 20 mins,noway it can run overnight...
a c 89 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 8:33:33 PM

You should start off by setting the RAM values in the BIOS. If that helps stability then you can move on to the Memtest86+ test.
April 20, 2010 8:35:06 PM

dunno how to do that and i dont want to mess with bios etc.I just turned it on and have started a game,w8ing for the blue screen so i can give u the code
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 8:36:20 PM

^+1 and prime95 to test the CPU too.
April 20, 2010 8:36:54 PM

What RAM model do you have exactly? This can tell us the timings and voltage specifications. shortstuff is right, sometimes "Auto" settings simply will not work for RAM and this sounds very much like this might be the case (generally either not enough voltage or too aggressive timings).

Once we have the specs, you can manually set them in the BIOS to safe values and boot with that, see what happens. A friend of mine had this same issue, his default settings were trying to run his RAM too aggressively without enough voltage. Once he set it manually everything was stable.
a c 89 V Motherboard
April 20, 2010 8:47:38 PM

If you take the time to read the motherboard owners manual it will tell you how to set the RAM values in the BIOS. You likely won't get your system stable without doing so.
April 21, 2010 11:54:11 AM

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1032

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: d1
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: 0000000000000002
BCP3: 0000000000000001
BCP4: FFFFF88004F3A6BD
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\042110-16442-01.dmp
C:\Windows\Temp\WER-26754-0.sysdata.xml

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This is the error.
a c 89 V Motherboard
April 21, 2010 2:44:49 PM

I stand by all my previous suggestions. You are not likely to have a stable system until you manually set your RAM values.
April 21, 2010 6:19:47 PM

i tried the thing in the bios guided by my technician,setted it right but stil i got 2 BSODs in 10 mins...
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 21, 2010 6:21:47 PM

RMA your mobo.
April 21, 2010 6:39:27 PM

so between HDD CPU and MOBO what is most likely causing this?
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 21, 2010 7:13:43 PM

I think that the mobo is the most possible.
April 21, 2010 11:10:44 PM

So is there ANY way possible i can be 100% sure what the problem is?Cos i m afraid i dont have the receipts kept so no warranty :/ 
The problem lies between CPU MOBO and HDD.I just want to KNOW for sure which one is broken so i can replace it and not spend more money for nothing.........
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 22, 2010 6:04:47 AM

Well, if you can test the mobo with another component, a different CPU, different RAM, different GPU, a different PSU and a different HD, could be possible.
April 22, 2010 9:46:54 AM

but again it may not do anything.For example 1 month ago my PC could run for a week without BSODs,or maybe 1-2.After windows 7 it is hell more often,it cant stay on for more than 20 mins...
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 22, 2010 1:18:53 PM

If you can, install vista or XP in another partition and test the rig.
April 22, 2010 6:58:56 PM

well i had xp untill a week ago,and i had plenty of BSODs however not so often like now with windows 7.Another important thing is that when weather is warm BSODs are occuring faster,so i thought it could be the GPU overheat but it is not.Also we have removed the paste from the CPU and setted all from the beginning 2 times and still no results...Could mobo overheat or smthng?
April 23, 2010 11:30:33 AM

UP
a c 304 V Motherboard
April 23, 2010 12:55:30 PM

That's the problem, could be the mobo or the HD. But we can't be 100% sure.
May 13, 2010 2:53:44 PM

So i updated my BIOS,checked the HDD with the Western Diagnostic Tool and it passed the test.I also run the prime95 and saw my CPU temperature going up until 90C!!!!I changed the cooler,temps dropped to 39-49 but still getting bsods.I dunno really wtf should i do.I rally cant sepnt more money for nothing.Only thing left is the MOBO itself but again what IF it isnt the problem?Also if i'd go buy a new mobo,is it possible to buy one with the same chipset(P43) and keep my system as it is without needing format?
a c 89 V Motherboard
May 13, 2010 2:55:52 PM

RAM, RAM, RAM. Just like I've been saying all along. RAM is easily the #1 cause of BSODs.
May 13, 2010 7:57:44 PM

I have changed 3 sets of ram and tried all the slots of the mobo seperately.No ram for sure.Except if u mean RAM settings in bios and not the sticks.Sticks are 100% ok.
a c 89 V Motherboard
May 13, 2010 7:59:17 PM

Yes, I mean the RAM settings in the BIOS.
May 13, 2010 8:03:25 PM

Well could u explain it further?I dont know a thing about BIOS and i dont wanna mess with it without having any idea of what i have to do.
a c 89 V Motherboard
May 13, 2010 8:14:40 PM

That's why I recommended you read the section of the motherboard owners manual that explains how to change the values. I guess I'll do the leg work for you. Here's a review of the motherboard that shows screenshots of the BIOS.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_p5qle/4.ht...

All the RAM values are in the "AI Tweaker" section of the BIOS. First, change the Memory voltage from "auto" and manually enter the voltage. Next change the DRAM timing control from "auto" and change the first four values to whatever the RAM is rated for. Finally, change the DRAM frequency from "auto" and manually set the speed to the correct value.
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