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October 26, 2009 7:24:42 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 Nov or so.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Playing WoW and various FPS, internet browsing, various office productivity tasks

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS) Don't need kb/mouse/speakers, hard drive, or CD/DVD drive.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, but I don't care that much so long as it all comes from the same place.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: California, USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: My current monitor is failing, so I'd like a 20+ inch LCD monitor with 1080P resolution. I'd like to use an AMD processor but it's not required if Intel is a better deal.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe, if possible and practicable within my price range.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1080P (1920x1080), possible dual monitor with 1280x1024

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I'm trying to upgrade from the following rig, which is choking on multitasking:
Intel C2D E6320 (1.86ghz)
2GB DDR2 (Mushkin)
BFG GeForce 8800 GT OC 512MB
XFX mainboard (I forget the model, but it's about 2 years old and supports SLI)
Generic case and PSU

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October 26, 2009 7:52:50 PM

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core

gigabyte 770

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ddr3 4gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ocz 550 watt 10% off with promo code OZSAVEOCT, ends 11/1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-331-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Acer X213Hbid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (ACM) - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


$508.95 before mir

$35 mir

use the 8800 for now
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October 26, 2009 8:09:52 PM

Get your motherboard model. It may be able to take a C2quad CPU and that could resolve your multitasking for now.

What OS are you running?

Is your case a slimline, mini tower or mid-tower?
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October 26, 2009 8:32:29 PM

My motherboard has the nForce 680i LT chipset in socket 775.

Currently, I'm using Windows 7 RC, but I will be moving to Vista Ultimate x64 shortly.

Mid-tower case.

Do you think that the aforementioned Athlon II is a large enough performance increase over the E6320 to justify the price?
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October 26, 2009 8:38:06 PM

sanguines said:
Currently, I'm using Windows 7 RC, but I will be moving to Vista Ultimate x64 shortly.
NOOOooo...! Dont even think about Vista. Get Win 7 or fall back to XP. Look at the article Toms wrote today. Win 7 is 7-10% faster than Vista. Vista will just make your problem worse.

Do you think that the aforementioned Athlon II is a large enough performance increase over the E6320 to justify the price? said:
Do you think that the aforementioned Athlon II is a large enough performance increase over the E6320 to justify the price?
The Athlon suggested is a quad core so it should multi-task better. Unfortunately I dont know enough about older intel CPUs to know if there is a nice 2.6+GHz quad core you could just drop in that would be nearly as good as the AthlonIIx4.
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October 26, 2009 8:43:55 PM

dndhatcher said:
NOOOooo...! Dont even think about Vista. Get Win 7 or fall back to XP. Look at the article Toms wrote today. Win 7 is 7-10% faster than Vista. Vista will just make your problem worse.

The Athlon suggested is a quad core so it should multi-task better. Unfortunately I dont know enough about older intel CPUs to know if there is a nice 2.6+GHz quad core you could just drop in that would be nearly as good as the AthlonIIx4.


I just finished reading that article, actually! Yowch. I'm not gonna shell out for 7 right now - XP it is, which is disappointing, because XP x64 is fail, IIRC.
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October 26, 2009 9:57:15 PM

dndhatcher said:
Maybe a Q8400?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I think the question is what wattage is your motherboard rated for. The E6200 is only 65W but the q8400 is 95W.


Newegg says this about my motherboard:

Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
CPU Type Core 2 Extreme (dual and quad core) / Core 2 Duo / Core 2 Quad / Celeron D / Pentium 4 / Pentium 4 / Pentium D 9XX / Pentium D 8XX
FSB 1333/1066MHz
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI

I presume that supporting C2Q means all the C2Qs.
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October 26, 2009 10:00:56 PM

If it will handle the extremes (they are like 125W) it will handle a q8400 or a q9550.
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October 26, 2009 10:06:10 PM

Do you think that's the biggest bottleneck? I can upgrade the memory for fairly cheap as well, but I don't know if it's worthwhile under XP x86.
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October 26, 2009 10:19:27 PM

If you are running XP then 2GB RAM is not likely to be a problem, 4GB RAM would be the most you could use. 4GB would let you run windows 7 really nicely, especially with a quad CPU.

1.8GHz is alot slower than 2.8GHz and dual core doesnt multitask near as well as quad core.

It is possible your HDD is a problem. Is it over half full? what kind is it?
Also can you link your motherboard so I could see all the specs.
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October 26, 2009 10:53:11 PM

dndhatcher said:
If you are running XP then 2GB RAM is not likely to be a problem, 4GB RAM would be the most you could use. 4GB would let you run windows 7 really nicely, especially with a quad CPU.

1.8GHz is alot slower than 2.8GHz and dual core doesnt multitask near as well as quad core.

It is possible your HDD is a problem. Is it over half full? what kind is it?
Also can you link your motherboard so I could see all the specs.


The hard drive is a Seagate 1TB 7200rpm SATA drive, with only one partition for the full size of the drive. I don't have a link to a model number, but it's far less than half full (perhaps 1/8 - I store most of my non-program data on an external USB drive).

I'm having issues logging into newegg right now so I can't link the motherboard.
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October 26, 2009 11:00:00 PM

Unless your Seagate is one of the ones with a firmware problem, it wont be an issue. You might google about the seagate 7200 firmware problem and see if there is anything that might apply to you.
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October 26, 2009 11:20:28 PM

XFX 680i LT SLI Motherboard
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October 26, 2009 11:40:19 PM

Newegg isnt the only site with info.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6se...
"SATA Speed: 3.0GB/s" Thats up to date. Motherboard specs look good.

I would think a nice quad CPU would make it feel like a new machine. If you added 2GB more RAM and windows 7 it would be like a new machine.


The 8800 will drive a 22 inch 1380x1050 monitor at around high graphics levels on most games if you turn AA and a couple memory intensive settings off (I can with a 9800 GTX+ on a dual core Athlon at 3.2GHz). I just got this good deal on a HannsG 22inch LCD. I like it (had it less than a week), but its not 1080 like you want.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 27, 2009 2:55:13 AM

Noticed you said your PSU is generic, may want to revisit that as well while you are at it.
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