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January 13, 2010 3:34:10 AM

Do you ever think we can have a group such as the IEEE or something design a standard socket for all CPU companies (like forced to by the EU or something) and end up having a situation like Socket 7 again? I really think that would increase competition. Buying a motherboard locks you from buying another CPU maker's CPU, it's practically a monopoly. If AMD and Intel are forced to standardize their processors to fit a socket, we'd reap the rewards right?
January 13, 2010 3:53:29 AM

I don't think it matters personally, sockets change so fast that it's a moot point to make a standard for both companies.

Even if both companies have to adhere to a standard for a certain socket, by the time you go to build or buy your next computer the cpu socket will be different anyway.
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January 13, 2010 3:55:07 AM

standardization would have to go far beyond the socket, it would have to include the chipsets, the power distribution, the memory on the board. What would you do? Make a 2000 pin socket and find a use for the spare 600 pins later? As it stands not even all LGA 775 boards support all LGA 775 chips, and not all AM2 or AM2+ boards support AM3 chips like they could with a bios update, imaging trying to get bios to work well with two different architectures? They have enough trouble getting it to work properly with a select few, expanding it to include AMD and Intel would make bios extremely hefty and just slow the system down overall.

Standardization is good for the start as it gets things going, but as things grow you cant keep them standardized because the standards cant keep up with the advancements. What would AMD do if their next processor series wanted to incorporate say, sata, onto the CPU die? Ask IEEE to modify the standard, add some pins, and suddenly open it up for intel to do the same without needing much work on their part? Standardization kills competition too so you would never get the high speed parts we expect every 6 months.
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January 13, 2010 4:01:53 AM

Well it would allow for more competiton that's for sure.

You are right pf course.
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January 13, 2010 5:25:57 AM

Wouldn't be able to be done. Intel moves memory types and feature types faster than AMD. In the end it wouldn't be fair for Intel since they always push it and would have to wait. if Intel didn't push out DDR3 when it did, it wouldn't be as cheap as it is now for AM3.

If DDR3 just got pused when AMD supported it and Intel supported it together it would still be near $500 for 4GB.

Just an example.
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January 13, 2010 5:37:00 AM

Maybe revising the socket once in a while?

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January 13, 2010 7:06:56 AM

I do consider this on a frequent basis

this was once a case but with the arrival of Pentiums and AMD Athlons. Would the Athlon got as far as it did with less pins - i dont think so.

This is what makes technology work - socket 775 was one of the longest platforms in mainstream use but Intel worked out that obviously the arch had its limitations and went to 1366 and 1156.

Although processors at the beginning has been not as it could of been on its initial release, the platform will mature and better, faster chips will follow, origional pentiums, pentium 2s, 3s, 4s and socket 775 tech when released was poor compared to what it matured to.

Also it gives fanbois something more to shout about, but every one must admit the socket design by Intel is so much better than amd's plug in pin version, atleast the chip doesnt sustain damage from little knocks unlike bent pins on AMD's.

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January 13, 2010 7:39:31 AM

Except the push pins :D 
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January 13, 2010 8:28:08 AM

2042741,7,140628 said:
... but every one must admit the socket design by Intel is so much better than amd's plug in pin version, atleast the chip doesnt sustain damage from little knocks unlike bent pins on AMD's.[/quotemsg
All LGA does is transfer the pin problem from the CPU maker to the motherboard maker.
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January 13, 2010 8:36:10 AM

There is a smaller chance of breaking it tho.
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January 13, 2010 11:01:03 AM

Socket 7 anyone?

I am not necessarily against having separate sockets.
It is a simple way for Intel and AMD to say 'No, your current CPU will not work with this chipset'.
Just think of the headaches we would have dealing with n00bs if all sockets where the same :pfff: 

It would be nice if CPU/GPU cooler mounting was standardized though...
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