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October 28, 2009 2:27:06 AM

Ok.. so ive update this list...Im still unsure on 2 parts the cpu cooler(especially since i want to oc this thing)and the case. Ive heard the akasa nero is one of the best for the i7's. I dont really know what to look for in a case. I do like the antec 900 but im not sure if i need the full tower(antec 1200) or the mid(900). On top of that when i add a cpu cooler will the width be a factor for my case? I have an old ide dvd drivand oe im going to use for now for cost reasons too. Any suggestions on any of this or anything im missing let me know please :) 

ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:Rampage II Extreme
Item #:N82E16813131352
Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card13-131-352

$359.99 $359.99
^i love this mobo sound great

XFX HD-585A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail
Model #:HD-585A-ZNFC
Item #:N82E16814150442
Return Policy:VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
Out Of Stock

ETA: 11/2/2009 11:28:00 AM
Auto notify Auto-Notify14-150-442

$289.99 $289.99
^same with this card..im very excited about it

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Model #:CMPSU-850TX
Item #:N82E16817139009
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card17-139-009

$159.99 -$30.00 Instant $129.99
^looked at the HX but im not even sure what modular means and ive heard thats the only difference..plus this price is much nicer for my pocket


Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Model #:BX80601920
Item #:N82E16819115202
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock

$288.99 $288.99
^ive heard this thing can oc real well to 4ghz? -thats my goal if thats the case if not i'll settle a lower 24/7 oc
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OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail
Model #:o CZ3P1600LV6GK
Item #:N82E16820227381
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card20-227-381

$173.99 -$10.00 Instant $163.99
^the reviews i read on this were decent oc ability and some said best pc3 12800 for the value out right now

Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD6400AACS
Item #:N82E16822136298
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99
^good deal on this right now so i chose it for that reason, i was also thinking of the samsung HD that niklas posted but im not sure the difference between the two.
Subtotal: $1,282.94

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October 28, 2009 2:52:36 AM

how about this ?




SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151187
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

$30.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$70.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$179.99
$109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail
Item #: N82E16835154003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$2.00 Instant $6.99
$4.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136319
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant
-$45.00 Combo $159.98
$99.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...




ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131365
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227365
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$30.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$431.98
$391.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...




Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115202
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835233029
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$10.00 Combo $333.97
$323.97 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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Nippon Labs Premium 1M (3.28 ft.) SATA Cable with 2 right Angle Connectors for SATA I and SATA II Hard Drive Model SATA-1RR - Retail
Item #: N82E16812816033
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$6.49 Saving $6.49
$0.00
Subtotal: $961.90 + 399.99 HD 5870 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002PK14SU

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Might need a cable http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... For the 8 pin from PSU to MOBO

You did not post a rez on your monitor, But the HD 5870 fit in the budget :) 

If you dont like that case go with this HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and pick a case you like, this HDD is a little bit faster then the other but both should do well.

Other cases to pick from would be Antec 900 or 1200 CM 922 or 932 all have good air flow

And TY for your service to are country GOD Bless
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October 28, 2009 10:25:57 AM

Wow thank you for such an in-depth answer. I was thinking of going with the p6t deluxe but i have heard that the rampage 2 is amazing, very o/c able, and i was hoping to build a pc i could upgrade in the future with SLI and/or CroffFireX. The other choices you have I do like. What should i look for in cases for proper cooling? and if i decided to run CrossFireX, will i need more than a 750w power supply? i was actually looking at the 850W tx by Corsair.

Oh and thank you for your support of our military :)  :) 

I was thinking more like this now that you've shed some light on my project.


SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151187
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$30.99


CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$70.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card17-139-006

$179.99
$109.99



Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound

Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail
Item #: N82E16835154003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$2.00 Instant


$6.99


ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131352
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy


$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card13-131-352

$359.99


COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136319
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$15.00 Instant
-$45.00 Combo


$159.98
$99.98


Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115202
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

*

OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227365
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy



I Dont know much about OCZ ram and its oc ability or quality but i think i'll like it. Also, does anyone have a recommendation on the brand of the HD 5850? I was looking at sapphire. And I will spend a little over what i wanted IF the upgraded mobo and other components are worth it, especially future upgrades.
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October 28, 2009 10:35:25 AM

Niklas_13's build is great. Taking advantage of the good combos on Newegg atm. 750W corsair will more than suffice, even if you do crossfire down the road.

Good luck out there.
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October 28, 2009 2:18:01 PM

This is the build I did in March 2009. I was dissatisfied with the Sapphire 4870 & returned it for a MSI N285GTX-T2D1G-OC GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail @ $334.99 Item #: N82E16814127403. I am very satisfied with the MSI video card. I also returned the Noctua NH-U12P CPU cooler and installed water cooling. The case door could not be used with the cooler installed (and it's a BIG case). Contact me if you want the details on my water cooling,(I ordered parts and built it myself). I run the rig OC'ed to 3.6 GHz which allows the Dram to be at 1443 @ 7,8,7,20 latency's. The CPU, QPI & Dram voltages are 1.312, 1.337 & 1.59 respectively. At idle the CPU temp is 38 C at full load under Prime 95 it is 50 C (as taken from Asus's External LCD Poster). As you can see the machine could be pushed harder, but for 24/7 use I am below any voltage danger points and the machine runs well below the 80 C recommended max. I expect this build to last a good long time.

The case is expansive with lots of room to upgrade and still have great airflow. It's a cool looking case and even had a fun surprise feature in the off/on switch. I am very happy with the Rampage motherboard, mushkin ram & the Western Digital 'BLACK' hard drives. I enjoy the illuminated keyboard. The Cooler Master 1250 W PSU will take care of any future power requirements I have. I used an IDE DVD burner because that leaves a SATA connector free for future devices and SATA burners don't burn better or faster. My monitor was previously purchased, it is a Hannspree (Newegg calls them HannsG) 28" (1920x1200).




09-04-22 New i7 comp

Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #:RC-1100-KKN1-GP
Item #:N82E16811119150
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock $199.99 $199.99


1 ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:Rampage II Extreme
Item #:N82E16813131352
Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
$359.99 $359.99



1 SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #:100268L
Item #:N82E16814102826
Out Of Stock
I returned this



1 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-C50-EMBA-D2 1250W ATX Form Factor 12V V2.3 / SSI standard EPS 12V V2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire ... - Retail
Model #:RS-C50-EMBA-D2
Item #:N82E16817171029
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$279.99 -$30.00 Instant $249.99



1 Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Model #:BX80601920
Item #:N82E16819115202
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
$288.99 $288.99



1 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ... - Retail
Model #:998679
Item #:N82E16820226030
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate
$164.99 $164.99



2 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives -Bare Drive
Model #:WD1001FALS
Item #:N82E16822136284
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$109.99 Used for data drives. Mirrored and then I mapped My Doc's, Ghost image, etc to it. $219.98



1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD5001AALS
Item #:N82E16822136320
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$69.99 I use this as my C drive $69.99



1 Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard - Retail
Model #:967929-0403
Item #:N82E16823126009
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$63.99 $63.99



1 Logitech MX518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse - Retail
Model #:931352-0403
Item #:N82E16826104178
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$39.99 $39.99



2 SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S222L LightScribe Support - OEM
Model #:SH-S222L
Item #:N82E16827151176
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
Out Of Stock
Auto-Notify
$30.99 $61.98



1 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
Model #:66I-01939
Item #:N82E16832116488
Out Of Stock



1 Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #:NH-U12P SE1366
Item #:N82E16835608007
Out Of Stock
I returned this



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October 28, 2009 3:18:20 PM

Why is the Rampage better than the lower cost P6T Deluxe or P6T SE? What more do you get for your $?
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October 28, 2009 3:29:45 PM

Zen, your rig looks similar to mine..my question is now becomming more about ram.. your rig o/c'd to 3.6ghz..definitelyl saying something about the ram's oc ability, anyone else have any ideas of good oc'able ram? And do u think your psu is a little overboard or no?

Pagelc- check out the specs on the mobo but i really liked the bios and how very very o/c friendly it is
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October 28, 2009 4:13:41 PM

Its pretty standard to overclock i7 920s to around 4GHz on air cooling in a good case.
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October 28, 2009 8:56:15 PM

I am planning an i7 920 build as well. taking the points here, my main difference is I want to try to get this under $1500, so I am taking Tom's budget X58 recommendation of the AsRock X58 Extreme board and stepping down to a 5770. Any comments on this $1400 build (all prices from Newegg, usually comno deals):

Intel core i7 920 2.66 Ghz $289
OCZ Platinum 3x2GB, 7 latency $163
Asrock x58 extreme $170
windows 7 professional 64-bit system builder (need to do some research on finding home version cheaper) $150
sapphire Radeon 5770 $160
corsair 750HX PS (what's the difference between HX and TX???) $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Cooler Master CM690 Case + WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (newegg combo) $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
LG W2353V-PF Black 23" 2ms $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223C $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 CPU Cooler $30


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October 28, 2009 10:05:02 PM

pagelc said:
corsair 750HX PS (what's the difference between HX and TX???) $130
HX is modular, TX is not.
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October 28, 2009 10:10:38 PM

dndhatcher said:
HX is modular, TX is not.

+1

The HX is also 80 PLUS SILVER Certified, where the TX is just 80 PLUS Certified.
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October 28, 2009 10:53:38 PM

The case really doesn't "go" with the rest of your system.....would suggest Antec 1200 / HAF 932 or ANtec 902 HAF 922.

The Mushkin 998962 is a better buy and has lower timings (just built a R2E based box w/ Antec 1200 and those mushkins).

For about the same price you can get the Prolimatech Megahalems or any of the top ten HS here:

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks

PSU, I'd go w/ the Corsair TX / Antec TP though if your case fits it, the Antec CP-850 is almost as good as the top dogs .... the Corsair's HX / Antec's SG series.


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October 28, 2009 11:55:01 PM

admilitaryman said:
Zen, your rig looks similar to mine..my question is now becomming more about ram.. your rig o/c'd to 3.6ghz..definitelyl saying something about the ram's oc ability, anyone else have any ideas of good oc'able ram? And do u think your psu is a little overboard or no?

Pagelc- check out the specs on the mobo but i really liked the bios and how very very o/c friendly it is




admilitaryman, The power supply is overkill right now, but keep in mind the build is also water cooled so the PSU is also powering a Koolance RP-1000BK pump/reservoir. In addition I wanted to be able to add up to two more MSI N285GTX (manufacturer over clocked) video cards and up to three more SATA drives and not have to touch the PSU. I should have more than enough power to run all those devices and not stress the PSU. Also when I bought it Newegg had a sale, reduced price on PSU and $70 bonus off, if bought in combo with the case. ;-)

Just FYI, the pump has a Maximum Head Pressure: 6m (19.7ft) and has a Power Consumption (at max): 18W. It feeds 1/2" tubing from a Swiftech radiator MCR320-QP (3 x120mm fans long).

So in answer again, yes, the 1250 W PSU is over kill now and later, but I got it on the cheap, it is of very high quality, it will never operate under stressed conditions and I will never have to rerun the wires in this case. That makes me :-)

This is the first time I saw any real benefit to over clocking. I found there was lots to learn. The ram on my machine is not really over clocked. Motherboards don't seem to set the ram to the advertised ram settings. I simply set the latencies to the manufactures stated capabilities and the frequency as close as I could to the rated frequency of 1600. The CPU speed and Dram settings are related, so changing one can affect the other (both tied to Base clock 'BCLK'). I found that you can't choose a max stable CPU speed and a max stable Dram speed. My ram is stable at 1600, but the CPU had to go over 4.1 (or lower than 3.3) to get that and my CPU is not stable at 4.1. Therefore I had to compromise.

Even at 50 and having built a number of PCs I get quite excited about building a new one. I hope you get as much pleasure/satisfaction out of your new build as I do. I wish you the best on your build.

BTW, I signed up for an account to comment on your build. I have yet to get a confirmation email from Tom's. I did try the suggested fix of logging out and then logging in & selecting the 'No confirmation email received option', but so far nothing.
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October 29, 2009 12:38:39 AM

Zen:

I have always been a casual OC'er.....neevr more than 25% cause I didn't want to spend more than 10 minutes with it. My son just did an R2E based build and is egging me on to help him go higher. When I get home, still at work at 9:30) would appreciate your comments on the BIOS settings I'm thinking of.

Like you, was thinking I migh try for a 24/7 3.6 GHz but 3.78 looks mighty attractive as I can push up the BCLK while in windows while using the software and / or the OC Station he picked up to "bling up" his rig :) .

If I am understanding the table here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=2008122019104023...

shoud be able to go from 180 BCLK to 200 w/o anything else but voltage boosts. Memory Multiplier (8), Uncore Multiplier (16) and QPI Multiplier (18) remain unchanged over this range.
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October 29, 2009 1:40:34 AM

haha yes zen i get real excited over building new pc's :)  ..im rebuilding my list..i will post it for you tomorrow and see what you think.
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October 29, 2009 2:23:49 AM

ok ive updated it..check above.
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October 29, 2009 3:04:12 AM

Dont use the green as your main HDD if you like the WD HDD go Black http://www.wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=3

The Samsung F3 500 is a bit faster or the WD black 640 is good

You could use the green as a storeage driver for pic songs ect

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October 29, 2009 3:09:12 AM

Like to say also if your by a microcenter the i7 920 is only 199.99 there all day walk in only tho :) 

Didnt see a case or HSF in the new build yet, but it looks good so far :)  iam sure you will have alot of fun with it
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October 29, 2009 3:16:58 AM

^looked at the HX but im not even sure what modular means and ive heard thats the only difference..plus this price is much nicer for my pocket

Modular meens that some of the power cables on the PSU are left off and you can add the ones you need to the PSU ( makes for less clutter in your case or locker :) 
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October 29, 2009 3:39:28 AM

admilitaryman said:
ok ive updated it..check above.



I totally agree with Niklas_13, go for a Western Digital Black. You seem to be very interested in speed and the green drive will have slower load times for the op system and programs. Do not get too excited about the ram. Ram speed makes a difference, but it is a small change compared to the CPU & quantity of ram (assuming 6 gig, much more has negligible effect for average users/gamers). I did not notice which case you are currently choosing, nor did I catch which cooler. Earlier you had a mid tower listed. I would recommend a full tower, as roomy as you can go and with good ventilation. Make sure your cooler isn't so tall that the case side door won't close. I have a BIG case and I still had that problem. That was a large part of my decision to switch over to water cooling.
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Anonymous
October 29, 2009 4:03:37 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
Zen:

I have always been a casual OC'er.....neevr more than 25% cause I didn't want to spend more than 10 minutes with it. My son just did an R2E based build and is egging me on to help him go higher. When I get home, still at work at 9:30) would appreciate your comments on the BIOS settings I'm thinking of.

Like you, was thinking I migh try for a 24/7 3.6 GHz but 3.78 looks mighty attractive as I can push up the BCLK while in windows while using the software and / or the OC Station he picked up to "bling up" his rig :) .

If I am understanding the table here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=2008122019104023...

shoud be able to go from 180 BCLK to 200 w/o anything else but voltage boosts. Memory Multiplier (8), Uncore Multiplier (16) and QPI Multiplier (18) remain unchanged over this range.




JackNaylorPE, well 3.78 is a 5% increase over 3.6. I mean no offense but, I doubt you could perceive the difference. At that point it's bragging rights, which have their own validity. The Base Clock (BCLK) is default around 130. Pushing it to 180 is quite a jump and quite common. Some can push their CPUs to 220 or so and most top out around 200. My CPU couldn't make it to 200 and stay stable on prime 95 for a full 24 hour period at the voltage levels I wanted to stay below. So I opted for a lower speed, stability and a long survival time for the build. Your CPU may well over clock better than mine. Luck of the draw in manufacturing.

Something to remember admilitaryman, The main killers of machines are heat, voltage and gamers with big hammers. ;-)
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October 29, 2009 4:03:50 AM

Wow! I'm drooling reading these many, a$$ kicking specs. I'd like to build a core i7 system too, but I just can't swing it right now. I've got core i7 extreme tastes, but an Athlon II pocketbook... LOL.

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October 29, 2009 10:17:12 AM

Thanks gen and niklas..i didnt realize there was a difference in the green and black HD. I may go for the samsung though. With the ram im just looking for some that can keep up with my oc. In one of my older builds the ram was the bottleneck. As for the cpu, well.. as long as its an aftermarket and not a stock cpu cooler i dont think i will have any problem. Thank you both for your help i really appreciate it. I should be buying this setup next week. I'll post or pm and let yall know how it goes.
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Anonymous
October 29, 2009 9:06:05 PM

admilitaryman said:
Thanks gen and niklas..i didnt realize there was a difference in the green and black HD. I may go for the samsung though. With the ram im just looking for some that can keep up with my oc. In one of my older builds the ram was the bottleneck. As for the cpu, well.. as long as its an aftermarket and not a stock cpu cooler i dont think i will have any problem. Thank you both for your help i really appreciate it. I should be buying this setup next week. I'll post or pm and let yall know how it goes.



I just checked and your listed ram is not on Asus's Qualified vendors list. Mine isn't there either, but I chose the mushkin 998679 because Tom's Hardware used it in a build with no ill results. I was not sure how you went about choosing the OCZ OCZ3G1600LV6GK, so I thought I would mention it.

Asus's Qualified vendors list is located on their website in products/motherboards/1366/x58/Rampage II Extreme/downloads/operating system/QVL

here is a link to the Rampage board:
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=W7i5W4Pw4fH22Mih&...
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October 30, 2009 1:54:17 AM

oh thank, i was thinking of going with your mushkin..im did chose the CM 932 case as it is just amazing with all the features..i still am having horrible trouble picking out a very compatible o/c friendly cpu cooler. I mean i have to worry about the width of the case being large enough, i guess some of the coolers have mounting difficulties, and then on top of that..which one is right for the price? Obviously the ProlimaTech Megahalems is an amazing cooler but should i pay that much? I do hope to hit 4ghz with this processor. Then that leads the question..what ram can actually keep up with the oc that high? ..these last 2 parts are becomming extremely difficult for me to figure out.

Btw..im a little lost on the ram..what does it mean if its not qualified on Asus's Qualified vendors list.

Thanks for your patience and helpin me out so much zen.
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October 30, 2009 2:51:42 AM

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JackNaylorPE, well 3.78 is a 5% increase over 3.6. I mean no offense but, I doubt you could perceive the difference.


I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear. The attractiveness of the 3.78 @ 180 BCLK is that to inch your way up from BCLK of 133 to 167, the memory multiplier, Ucore multiplier and QPI multiplier has to be changed about 6 times. From 180 to 200, they are constant at 8-16-8 and just BCLK has to be inched up. This can be done from in windows while observing the performance.

Yes, I agree that what many Benchmark poster define as rock solid doesn't cit it for me.....a program freeze, a spontaneous reboot or a single warning / stop in event viewer is not "rock solid" by my definition.

Whereas I never bother to invest the time in it before, this has become something of a "thing" for my son and I to work on together so it's kinda fun.

However, Win7 isn't exactly running "rock solid" at this point. To many errors and warnings in event viewer. About 1/3 of the time logging off takes forever. Dunno if this is the typical "new OS" related stuff, driver errors as the problem persists with no OC at all.
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October 30, 2009 1:15:57 PM

admilitaryman said:
oh thank, i was thinking of going with your mushkin..im did chose the CM 932 case as it is just amazing with all the features..i still am having horrible trouble picking out a very compatible o/c friendly cpu cooler. I mean i have to worry about the width of the case being large enough, i guess some of the coolers have mounting difficulties, and then on top of that..which one is right for the price? Obviously the ProlimaTech Megahalems is an amazing cooler but should i pay that much? I do hope to hit 4ghz with this processor. Then that leads the question..what ram can actually keep up with the oc that high? ..these last 2 parts are becomming extremely difficult for me to figure out.

Btw..im a little lost on the ram..what does it mean if its not qualified on Asus's Qualified vendors list.

Thanks for your patience and helpin me out so much zen.



admilitaryman,

RAM
Asus's Qualified Venders List is simply a list of ram that Asus has tested on their board and found that it performs as advertised on Asus's board. Obviously the list is different for each motherboard as each motherboard is engineered differently. Many factors go into ram being compatible with a particular Motherboard & CPU combination. I won't try to list them here & I am quite sure I do not know them all. I trust Asus to suggest ram they are confident in. They want their motherboards to perform well. I also trust Tom's Hardware, so if they tell me they used component X with component Y and it worked well & cost $50 less, I trust that to be true. I do not follow the adage of 'if it fits ...'

Remember, my mushkin is NOT over clocked & NOT on the Asus QVL, I simply set it as close to specs as I could while maintaining as high of a CPU speed as I could get with minimum voltages.


Cooler
The dimensions of my case are (as advertised) 24.72" x 10.47" x 23.54". Keeping in mind that you have to subtract the other side of the case where you run wires (motherboard backing plate), the MB standoffs, the height of the top of the CPU once installed, all leaves me with approximately 7.25" to install a cooler (I opened my case and measured this from CPU to case side). Now I have a 230mm fan in the side door and that cuts off another 2+ inches. In addition you do not want the top of the cooler touching the side door, so I would say that if I were going to reinstall air cooling in my case I would choose a cooler no more than 5" tall. I would prefer a little shorter.

I haven't recently researched air coolers and at the end of April 2009 there were not a lot to choose from. At this point I would recommend looking at the air coolers Toms Hardware has used in their builds and how they performed. The Cooler Master 932 case dimensions are 22.70" x 9.00" x 21.50", so I would subtract 5.5" (yours has a 230mm side fan also). That leaves you with a cooler no more than 3.5" tall. However looking at the pic's your fan might be lower than mine & might not interfere with the cooler. If so you can probably go with 5.5" max. To be safe, I would call (email sales) cooler master and ask how much room you have.


It is my pleasure to be of whatever assistance I can. Use many sources, there are a vast number of people out there that know a lot more than I do. I know enough to know there is much that I do not know. One last note: Do not be disappointed when you don't get the advertised theoretical speeds and results. They are called theoretical for a reason.

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October 30, 2009 1:31:12 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear. The attractiveness of the 3.78 @ 180 BCLK is that to inch your way up from BCLK of 133 to 167, the memory multiplier, Ucore multiplier and QPI multiplier has to be changed about 6 times. From 180 to 200, they are constant at 8-16-8 and just BCLK has to be inched up. This can be done from in windows while observing the performance.

Yes, I agree that what many Benchmark poster define as rock solid doesn't cit it for me.....a program freeze, a spontaneous reboot or a single warning / stop in event viewer is not "rock solid" by my definition.

Whereas I never bother to invest the time in it before, this has become something of a "thing" for my son and I to work on together so it's kinda fun.

However, Win7 isn't exactly running "rock solid" at this point. To many errors and warnings in event viewer. About 1/3 of the time logging off takes forever. Dunno if this is the typical "new OS" related stuff, driver errors as the problem persists with no OC at all.



JackNaylorPE,

All true.
I do not know your age or the age of your son. I am 51 & my son is 20 (away in school now). I cannot think of thing more precious than spending time together on a project with a child. Kudos.
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October 30, 2009 8:47:22 PM

I'm 54 in January, he hits 18 in a month.
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