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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 2:40:59 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

Sorry for the newby type post ... I have sifted through some of the
current threads on this topic, but need better understanding from
square 1.

Is it possible to record HDTV on a Tivo (retaining the HD quality)? My
guess is no, but wanted to just get a direct answer.

What are the "basics" on this ... you can direct me to a prior thread
if that is where the info. is ... thanks in advance!


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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 6:07:55 PM

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Whoops, forgot to tell everyone I'm a DishNetwork guy (no DirectTv stuff
in my house ... not yet anyway ;o) ... I wasn't sure if DirectTv Tivo
did HDTV or not, but I excluded it right away, since I'm Dish). Thanks
for the replys ... so sounds like nothing yet as far as HDTV and Tivo
(non DirectTv Tivo that is).


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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 9:10:12 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

On 2005-08-25, j0nnyhb <j0nnyhb.1ubrcy@satelliteguys.us> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the newby type post ... I have sifted through some of the
> current threads on this topic, but need better understanding from
> square 1.
>
> Is it possible to record HDTV on a Tivo (retaining the HD quality)? My
> guess is no, but wanted to just get a direct answer.

The answer is yes, that is possible.

> What are the "basics" on this ... you can direct me to a prior thread
> if that is where the info. is ... thanks in advance!

You have to go with a HD TiVo from DirecTV. Go to http://www.google.com/
and do a search for: HD TiVo

Google is your friend.

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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 9:10:13 PM

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"Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11grurk1j1j9dea@corp.supernews.com...
> On 2005-08-25, j0nnyhb <j0nnyhb.1ubrcy@satelliteguys.us> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the newby type post ... I have sifted through some of the
>> current threads on this topic, but need better understanding from
>> square 1.
>>
>> Is it possible to record HDTV on a Tivo (retaining the HD quality)? My
>> guess is no, but wanted to just get a direct answer.
>
> The answer is yes, that is possible.
>
>> What are the "basics" on this ... you can direct me to a prior thread
>> if that is where the info. is ... thanks in advance!
>
> You have to go with a HD TiVo from DirecTV. Go to http://www.google.com/
> and do a search for: HD TiVo

That solution does have restrictions, though. The receiver cannot be used
without a DirectTV subscription, even if you only want to record over the air
hidef. Also, it can only record HD signals from DirectTV or over the air. If
you are not in a good location to receive digital locals over the air, you're
probably out of luck for most network stations. And it cannot record any
hidef from cable, they use proprietary transmission methods.

If you can get a good signal from your locals, and you want DirectTV, then the
HD DirectTivo is a great option. If you don't fall into that category, it's
no good for you.

Ken
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 11:16:17 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

In article <j0nnyhb.1uc12y@satelliteguys.us>,
j0nnyhb <j0nnyhb.1uc12y@satelliteguys.us> wrote:
>
>Whoops, forgot to tell everyone I'm a DishNetwork guy (no DirectTv stuff
>in my house ... not yet anyway ;o) ... I wasn't sure if DirectTv Tivo
>did HDTV or not, but I excluded it right away, since I'm Dish). Thanks
>for the replys ... so sounds like nothing yet as far as HDTV and Tivo
>(non DirectTv Tivo that is).

BTW, the "DirecTV Tivo" or "DirecTivo" that people usually refer to is the
regular, non HD one.

The HD one is a different box, the HR10-250.

Many people seem to be getting them for around $300 nowadays, though most
are existing DirecTV customers.

I know you said you didn't want DirecTV, just wanted to clarify.
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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 11:34:04 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

"j0nnyhb" <j0nnyhb.1uc12y@satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
news:j0nnyhb.1uc12y@satelliteguys.us...
>
> Whoops, forgot to tell everyone I'm a DishNetwork guy (no DirectTv stuff
> in my house ... not yet anyway ;o) ... I wasn't sure if DirectTv Tivo
> did HDTV or not, but I excluded it right away, since I'm Dish). Thanks
> for the replys ... so sounds like nothing yet as far as HDTV and Tivo
> (non DirectTv Tivo that is).

Tivo is working on a CableCard based Tivo that will do hidef, but they haven't
been forthcoming with details, like a release date.

I'm not sure if Dish Network can/will release a CableCard interface to their
signal (is that even possible, given the CableCard interface?). If they can
and do, then you would be able to use the CableCard Tivo on Dish. There may
be requirements of CableCard that rule out satellite providers using it,
though. Does anyone know if there is a SatelliteCard coming, or if CableCard
can be adapted to satellite providers?

All cable providers should support CableCard at this time, though you probably
have to ask the right question to get one. They aren't really promoting them
(nor should they, really, since very few people have equipment that can use it
yet).

Ken
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:34:51 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ken Alverson <USENET.Ken@Alverson.net> said:
> >I'm not sure if Dish Network can/will release a CableCard interface to their
> >signal (is that even possible, given the CableCard interface?). If they can
> >and do, then you would be able to use the CableCard Tivo on Dish. There may
> >be requirements of CableCard that rule out satellite providers using it,
> >though. Does anyone know if there is a SatelliteCard coming, or if CableCard
> >can be adapted to satellite providers?
>
> The current CableCard spec is one-way only, so it definately could not
> be used in that way. From what I understand, the next version (which
> may not be out for a couple of years) will include two-way communication
> (for ordering things like pay-per-view). I don't know much beyond that,
> but I also have wondered if it may be possible for DirecTV and Dish to
> build a receiver that serves out content via digital cable to a next-gen
> CableCard device.
>
> It would be nice if such a box were possible; you could put one box in a
> closet somewhere and run the dish coax to it (no more multiswitches).
> Then you just use DirecTV/Dish provided CableCards everywhere in the
> house. The box would be more expensive than a standard receiver though,
> since it would have to have a tuner for each satellite.
>
> >All cable providers should support CableCard at this time, though you probably
> >have to ask the right question to get one.
>
> Not all are required yet. We have two local cable companies; the one
> that was here first had to have CableCard support last year, but the
> competitor (which has "only" been here for something like 20+ years)
> doesn't have to yet.
>
> >They aren't really promoting them
> >(nor should they, really, since very few people have equipment that can use it
> >yet).
>
> A significant number of TVs at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. have a
> CableCard slot now.
> --
> Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.


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Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:51:22 AM

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In article <dekv76$a3o$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu>,
"Ken Alverson" <USENET.Ken@Alverson.net> wrote:

> "Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:11grurk1j1j9dea@corp.supernews.com...
> > On 2005-08-25, j0nnyhb <j0nnyhb.1ubrcy@satelliteguys.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry for the newby type post ... I have sifted through some of the
> >> current threads on this topic, but need better understanding from
> >> square 1.
> >>
> >> Is it possible to record HDTV on a Tivo (retaining the HD quality)? My
> >> guess is no, but wanted to just get a direct answer.
> >
> > The answer is yes, that is possible.
> >
> >> What are the "basics" on this ... you can direct me to a prior thread
> >> if that is where the info. is ... thanks in advance!
> >
> > You have to go with a HD TiVo from DirecTV. Go to http://www.google.com/
> > and do a search for: HD TiVo
>
> That solution does have restrictions, though. The receiver cannot be used
> without a DirectTV subscription, even if you only want to record over the air
> hidef. Also, it can only record HD signals from DirectTV or over the air.
> If
> you are not in a good location to receive digital locals over the air, you're
> probably out of luck for most network stations.

Nope, then you get the Network from New York or L.A.




> And it cannot record any
> hidef from cable, they use proprietary transmission methods.
>
> If you can get a good signal from your locals, and you want DirectTV, then
> the
> HD DirectTivo is a great option. If you don't fall into that category, it's
> no good for you.
>
> Ken
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:51:23 AM

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"Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-4F7938.19512225082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <dekv76$a3o$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu>,
> "Ken Alverson" <USENET.Ken@Alverson.net> wrote:
>>
>> That solution does have restrictions, though. The receiver cannot be used
>> without a DirectTV subscription, even if you only want to record over the
>> air
>> hidef. Also, it can only record HD signals from DirectTV or over the air.
>> you are not in a good location to receive digital locals over the air,
>> you're
>> probably out of luck for most network stations.
>
> Nope, then you get the Network from New York or L.A.

Can you get all the networks now? Last I checked it was just CBS.

You do have to be out of area, though, or get a waiver. I'm sure I'm in-area
for Cincinnati, but I can't get an OTA signal from my apartment, due to the
location/direction of my balcony and windows. If I had DirecTV, I could get
the Cincinnati SD channels, but I wouldn't be able to get the HD feeds from
New York...

Ken
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 8:28:39 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

"Ken Alverson" <USENET.Ken@Alverson.net> writes:
>All cable providers should support CableCard at this time, though you probably
>have to ask the right question to get one. They aren't really promoting them
>(nor should they, really, since very few people have equipment that can use it
>yet).

They don't promote it, because the dirty secret is that there's so
many compatibility problems, that even if you had the gear that was
needed, it likely won't work anyway.
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 8:29:59 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

Once upon a time, Ken Alverson <USENET.Ken@Alverson.net> said:
>I'm not sure if Dish Network can/will release a CableCard interface to their
>signal (is that even possible, given the CableCard interface?). If they can
>and do, then you would be able to use the CableCard Tivo on Dish. There may
>be requirements of CableCard that rule out satellite providers using it,
>though. Does anyone know if there is a SatelliteCard coming, or if CableCard
>can be adapted to satellite providers?

The current CableCard spec is one-way only, so it definately could not
be used in that way. From what I understand, the next version (which
may not be out for a couple of years) will include two-way communication
(for ordering things like pay-per-view). I don't know much beyond that,
but I also have wondered if it may be possible for DirecTV and Dish to
build a receiver that serves out content via digital cable to a next-gen
CableCard device.

It would be nice if such a box were possible; you could put one box in a
closet somewhere and run the dish coax to it (no more multiswitches).
Then you just use DirecTV/Dish provided CableCards everywhere in the
house. The box would be more expensive than a standard receiver though,
since it would have to have a tuner for each satellite.

>All cable providers should support CableCard at this time, though you probably
>have to ask the right question to get one.

Not all are required yet. We have two local cable companies; the one
that was here first had to have CableCard support last year, but the
competitor (which has "only" been here for something like 20+ years)
doesn't have to yet.

>They aren't really promoting them
>(nor should they, really, since very few people have equipment that can use it
>yet).

A significant number of TVs at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. have a
CableCard slot now.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
!